What convinced you Satan is real?

In a good way, this:


It made me realize prayer is not idle or just for 'healthy benefits' or 'well being'

The lure of evil using our lust. I realized the evil in my own heart, that I still have and will always have as an imperfect being. Pornography literally has satanic stuff in it.
Also, the Lucifer like rejection of God by atheists they preach freedom but offer slavery.

The fact that our secular society drives out the name of Jesus except when it is used in blasphemy. You can utter a blaspheme and people will laugh but if you say to an unbeliever Jesus can save you they literally react with revulsion.

Show a cross to someone for example, the one you wear as a necklace -- gently not in a threatening way, just hold it up to them. Watch their reaction literally like a vampire.
 
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The man's video makes me think of a guy who went to a supposedly Christian faith healing event, with a friend who had a broken leg. The faith healer seemed to "heal" the friend's leg. But the visitor to the gathering had a bad feeling that demonic spirits were at work. And when they got home, the man called upon the name of Christ and directed his focus to his friend's leg. This caused the poor man to cry out in pain, as his leg once again went back to it's previous state of definitely being broken. I'm not sure if this is the stuff of Christian urban myth, but it does seem very possible.
 

Mike_Key

Robin
So as I've written previously, I don't like talking about deliverance ministry because unknowing and well-meaning individuals are quick to mention ideas that are easily explained away as not deliverance ministry. I have similar feeling about sharing stories on this topic.

But there are a handful of stories that I have - that answer this thread title. I've probably forgotten some that were doozies, very extraordinary. Like many things, it comes down to free time and interest. But keep in mind that, for every ghost story there is - God is most powerful and there is no, absolutely, no comparison to His power. God's miracles are as baffling.

I'm Protestant now but was raised Catholic as a child with a separation from Church for a period of time, nonetheless the first Pastor that I was under was an interesting character. He'd say yes there is true and expressive spiritual warfare out there - to be had; but you better prepare yourself for it if you seek out that ministry, it's no joke. Anyhow, this Pastor back in the days was shot at, apparently, point blank range while at the pulpit during Sunday service and wasn't wounded. He said that he quoted "No weapon that is formed against you will prosper ..." Isaiah 54:17, but for his critical need in the face of a gun - it was spoken in first person. If anyone of you know this pastor - keep his name to yourself as that may be a distraction to the topic. I heard the audio recording of the shooting and it all seemed accurate. There is a guy in prison. I've had guns drawn on me three times in my life on the streets but I can't imagine and unfortunately I wasn't in the military.

At this same church I was exposed to a woman (19 years old) that had been in the State Hospital and she had some issues that I could only attribute to spiritual warfare. That case was interesting. Looking back, I wish I had had more time to explore it. And yet I was very close to the case, but I was busy accomplishing other major goals and work. I was once driving her someplace and I recall silently praying "God, I hope she doesn't have a manifestation right now as we drive on this highway going 70 mph." That was too funny. We carried on pleasant conversation while on that drive.

During High school years, I practically lived on my own for a time. I wasn't homeless but I definitely didn't have parents; so I would often leave my house at 11pm for fitness adventures. Well once I met an older woman that appeared to be homeless. She had this raspy-ness to her. She struck me as a New Yorker and at the time I had no clue what a New Yorker was by way of their traits. So after asking for money she brushed me off. She then oddly turned to me and told me to go home; that I had a home. In my indifference I thought "ok, whatever". I didn't feel endangered or anything. I thought to follow her as she saunter off looking through trash cans as she went. I didn't follow but I saw where she went. My return trip crossed where she was moments prior and where she should have still been. She vanished. That is the only way I can explain it when every detail is considered.

Now for my encounter with a schizophrenic guy. This guy was very personable, friendly and quick-witted; physically he was big and buff but I was never fearful of him - I simply never wanted to scrap (fight) with him. At times I had to calm him down when he became too animated - like for instance when we'd talk about football.

Anyhow, at age 10 I learned or I should say heard something by way of a spiritual nature. Well this schizophrenic guy once spoke to me in this docile manner - which he was capable of the spectrum of emotions and expressiveness. Well obviously, that's because I believe now that he was demon possessed, or demon possessed at times. Anyhow, he spoke to me in this docile manner what I learned/heard at age 10, he reiterated to me what I had heard decades ago.

How? What?

I was left confused majorly. Anyhow, the spirit speaking through him at the time must have been feminine because it seemed very sympathetic/emphatic and soft as a woman would speak. I ignored the message. Thank you very much, but no thanks was what I thought. I reject the message to this day.

Anyhow, as I learned about this guy by our very occasional encounters - I must have prayed for the salvation of his soul. I do specifically remember praying at some point. Well that surely disrupted something. I say so because there was this other time on a weekday evening, I recall getting off of work. He used to wait for me to arrive home from work, or he'd wait for anyone. He was lonely and didn't work. It must have been mid-week, a Wednesday night or so.

So as typical, I parked my car and there he was, waiting or stalking. So this thing manifested in him and it wasn't weak or docile, it wasn't empathetic - it was strong, nefarious, dark, it wasn't depraved or vile although I could see it being capable of that - it was definitely ominous as if it was a leader of something. I can't recall if we had an extensive conversation and then things changed for the worse, but I would guess not. I would guess that from the outset this demon was present.

I offered small talk and then upon getting no response; I looked over his way. I asked if he was doing alright, to which he or it didn't reply but simply glared. If you've seen the eyes of, say, specifically a black timber rattlesnake - these eyes were as menacing. I didn't cower or run. I forcefully stood my ground as I've always done in life, but knew that it was time to go. I think I stretched my arms upward and told him or it "alright, man, I gotta go, long day, have a good one, talk to you later." Leaving him or it to get inside my house was a long walk. I sadly or regrettably didn't think to pray but I did think to myself, "man, I don't want to have to scrap with this guy." That's the last thing I needed.

He didn't follow me. I safely made it inside my house. I had other encounters with him. He scared my wife a good deal but it all worked out. The neighbors too reported that they had bizarre exchanges with him.

If this story should help any of you; have at it. I've processed it in my mind, among others. As I sit here, I think back on other stories from my family. My grandmothers, on both sides of my family, had some interesting spiritual things going on and stories to tell. And too, I'm recalling other stories from my childhood where mysterious occurrences baffled my mind.

Don't forget Matthew 8:28-34:

28 When He arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met Him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. 29 “What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?”

30 Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”

32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33 Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw Him, they pleaded with Him to leave their region.


Until next time ...

John 3:16
 
A lot of small things eventually just started hitting me and coming together, but one of the major things was the following:

I had a friend who was a good friend and a business partner. We got along well despite having pretty different personality types, we also had a lot in common. Anyway, long story short, after working with him for a while, I began to realize that he was deceitful, manipulative, and had sociopathic tendencies. I saw how he would informally let in these dark forces and do really degenerate things that just made him spiral downward. He would chase the sluttiest women, do tons of drugs, etc. I remember one night when I went with him and some other people to an electronic show, the inside of the club literally had Satanic themes and the whole energy of that place was fucked up. Everyone I went with was on MDMA, but in that state I saw the darkness very clearly. Me and my ex-girlfriend and some other girls I was with did not like the energy of the place, and went for a walk, having good conversations, laughs, and ate some fruit.

After things got worse between me and that friend, I parted ways permanently. That career path was coming to a dead-end anyway, especially b/c my friend turned out to not be a great business partner. In addition, I saw how these dark forces were slowly fucking him up and even though I did not become Christian immediately, I started wanting to walk down a good, righteous path. I literally remember him saying something like "I want to become close to the devil because that will keep bad things from happening to me" or something like that which makes absolutely no sense. Naturally, that culiminated in me becoming Christian. I was lucky I was exposed to some awesome Christians like Vox Day, E. Michael Jones, Owen Benjamin, who made me want to give Christianity a second chance.

A few weeks after separating from that friend, I felt like I hit rock bottom. I was homeless (fortunately had some savings), without a job, without any friends where I lived. I was staying at a hostel in Portland of all places when I asked Jesus to help me, and I felt this warm loving presence awaken in my heart. I was still suffering, but I finally felt that I could deal with it... that the suffering was only at the surface and the core of myself was starting to heal and purify. I stayed up listening to audiobook of the Gospels and Psalms, and something about actually hearing these books brought such peace and blessings into my heart, despite how fucked up my life was on the surface.

Since then, my life has gotten better. I'm still struggling in many ways, but at the core of it I feel much better. I've kicked bad drug habits of alcohol and cannabis and now I am working on quitting porn, which is difficult but I've made a lot of progress. I am going back to school to get a degree that actually has job prospects. I'm trying to live a healthy lifestyle where I pray every day, and in my free time I really enjoy to read scripture or learn more about Christian history, teachings, and culture.
 

Timothy Crow

Sparrow
So as I've written previously, I don't like talking about deliverance ministry because unknowing and well-meaning individuals are quick to mention ideas that are easily explained away as not deliverance ministry. I have similar feeling about sharing stories on this topic.

But there are a handful of stories that I have - that answer this thread title. I've probably forgotten some that were doozies, very extraordinary. Like many things, it comes down to free time and interest. But keep in mind that, for every ghost story there is - God is most powerful and there is no, absolutely, no comparison to His power. God's miracles are as baffling.

I'm Protestant now but was raised Catholic as a child with a separation from Church for a period of time, nonetheless the first Pastor that I was under was an interesting character. He'd say yes there is true and expressive spiritual warfare out there - to be had; but you better prepare yourself for it if you seek out that ministry, it's no joke. Anyhow, this Pastor back in the days was shot at, apparently, point blank range while at the pulpit during Sunday service and wasn't wounded. He said that he quoted "No weapon that is formed against you will prosper ..." Isaiah 54:17, but for his critical need in the face of a gun - it was spoken in first person. If anyone of you know this pastor - keep his name to yourself as that may be a distraction to the topic. I heard the audio recording of the shooting and it all seemed accurate. There is a guy in prison. I've had guns drawn on me three times in my life on the streets but I can't imagine and unfortunately I wasn't in the military.

At this same church I was exposed to a woman (19 years old) that had been in the State Hospital and she had some issues that I could only attribute to spiritual warfare. That case was interesting. Looking back, I wish I had had more time to explore it. And yet I was very close to the case, but I was busy accomplishing other major goals and work. I was once driving her someplace and I recall silently praying "God, I hope she doesn't have a manifestation right now as we drive on this highway going 70 mph." That was too funny. We carried on pleasant conversation while on that drive.

During High school years, I practically lived on my own for a time. I wasn't homeless but I definitely didn't have parents; so I would often leave my house at 11pm for fitness adventures. Well once I met an older woman that appeared to be homeless. She had this raspy-ness to her. She struck me as a New Yorker and at the time I had no clue what a New Yorker was by way of their traits. So after asking for money she brushed me off. She then oddly turned to me and told me to go home; that I had a home. In my indifference I thought "ok, whatever". I didn't feel endangered or anything. I thought to follow her as she saunter off looking through trash cans as she went. I didn't follow but I saw where she went. My return trip crossed where she was moments prior and where she should have still been. She vanished. That is the only way I can explain it when every detail is considered.

Now for my encounter with a schizophrenic guy. This guy was very personable, friendly and quick-witted; physically he was big and buff but I was never fearful of him - I simply never wanted to scrap (fight) with him. At times I had to calm him down when he became too animated - like for instance when we'd talk about football.

Anyhow, at age 10 I learned or I should say heard something by way of a spiritual nature. Well this schizophrenic guy once spoke to me in this docile manner - which he was capable of the spectrum of emotions and expressiveness. Well obviously, that's because I believe now that he was demon possessed, or demon possessed at times. Anyhow, he spoke to me in this docile manner what I learned/heard at age 10, he reiterated to me what I had heard decades ago.

How? What?

I was left confused majorly. Anyhow, the spirit speaking through him at the time must have been feminine because it seemed very sympathetic/emphatic and soft as a woman would speak. I ignored the message. Thank you very much, but no thanks was what I thought. I reject the message to this day.

Anyhow, as I learned about this guy by our very occasional encounters - I must have prayed for the salvation of his soul. I do specifically remember praying at some point. Well that surely disrupted something. I say so because there was this other time on a weekday evening, I recall getting off of work. He used to wait for me to arrive home from work, or he'd wait for anyone. He was lonely and didn't work. It must have been mid-week, a Wednesday night or so.

So as typical, I parked my car and there he was, waiting or stalking. So this thing manifested in him and it wasn't weak or docile, it wasn't empathetic - it was strong, nefarious, dark, it wasn't depraved or vile although I could see it being capable of that - it was definitely ominous as if it was a leader of something. I can't recall if we had an extensive conversation and then things changed for the worse, but I would guess not. I would guess that from the outset this demon was present.

I offered small talk and then upon getting no response; I looked over his way. I asked if he was doing alright, to which he or it didn't reply but simply glared. If you've seen the eyes of, say, specifically a black timber rattlesnake - these eyes were as menacing. I didn't cower or run. I forcefully stood my ground as I've always done in life, but knew that it was time to go. I think I stretched my arms upward and told him or it "alright, man, I gotta go, long day, have a good one, talk to you later." Leaving him or it to get inside my house was a long walk. I sadly or regrettably didn't think to pray but I did think to myself, "man, I don't want to have to scrap with this guy." That's the last thing I needed.

He didn't follow me. I safely made it inside my house. I had other encounters with him. He scared my wife a good deal but it all worked out. The neighbors too reported that they had bizarre exchanges with him.

If this story should help any of you; have at it. I've processed it in my mind, among others. As I sit here, I think back on other stories from my family. My grandmothers, on both sides of my family, had some interesting spiritual things going on and stories to tell. And too, I'm recalling other stories from my childhood where mysterious occurrences baffled my mind.

Don't forget Matthew 8:28-34:

28 When He arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met Him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. 29 “What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?”

30 Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”

32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33 Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw Him, they pleaded with Him to leave their region.


Until next time ...

John 3:16

Deliverance ministers are in my opinion hardcore soldiers. I lovingly call them crazy preachers. They are not crazy though. These people are usually in the trenches/streets where some really nasty stuff goes on. The closer to the street you are the more noticeable it is, maybe lower level demonic or something, I don't know, it is a hierarchy and all cities, even nations have a demonic overlord controlling things. You may notice some parts of a city feel different than others and are pretty bad, that would be the center I think.

If you have been exposed to mysterious spiritual stuff since childhood it may be a mark or a sign, maybe you are being called, something to think about.
 

Mike_Key

Robin
I had seen the above video before but it didn't scare me as much last time. This thread needs to be closed.

Why would you say this thread needs to be closed? Were you serious? I'm sincerely curious. Is it scary or frightening to you? Or you think individuals may be intrigued or tempted to view the dark-side in an unhealthy manner?

For me, I think this thread is information, pain and simple. Speaking in general, wow, pity those that might care to mess with the dark-side, plus why would one do so when it's inferior?

Deliverance ministers are in my opinion hardcore soldiers. I lovingly call them crazy preachers. They are not crazy though. These people are usually in the trenches/streets where some really nasty stuff goes on. The closer to the street you are the more noticeable it is, maybe lower level demonic or something, I don't know, it is a hierarchy and all cities, even nations have a demonic overlord controlling things. You may notice some parts of a city feel different than others and are pretty bad, that would be the center I think.

If you have been exposed to mysterious spiritual stuff since childhood it may be a mark or a sign, maybe you are being called, something to think about.

I don't think I'm cut out for Deliverance ministry. My pedigree isn't a great match. My simple calling is husband, father and Thither (giving faithfully, money is needed).

I heard of this one guy that, mostly, every person he met, he'd invite to Christ at some point in his conversation with them. He had an evangelizing gift. And on top of that, it could have been a long time as in years, he held deliverance sessions at his home for people that needed such a thing. He and his wife were perfect for it. They had woo, emotional intelligence, they had organizational skills, resources and patience, they loved people. I too have some of that, not all of that. But, I don't believe it's my calling. I'm all for people doing that if that's there thing.
 
Forgive my ignorance with the next question, but I've had zero religious upbringing and despite the fact that I've always 'spoken to God' privately in my own way, I have never once sought out any formal or structured religious education.

Why doesn't God just eliminate Satan? Once and for all? Is he unable to? Or just chooses not to?

Sure, I could duckduckgo the answer to this, but I always prefer to give you guys first go.

That's a good question, I don't claim to have a definitive answer, but I will give it a go. First off, I would say that God does not destroy sinners immediately, he gives them the chance to repent and change their ways. We see this time and again throughout the scripture:

Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? - Ezekiel 18:23

But the question is regarding Satan, who presumably has no chance of redemption, he has made his choice. But consider the parable of the wheat and the tares:

Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. “

The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

“‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

“‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”


He allows Satan to still exist until the appointed time - the book of Revelation makes clear his time will come. So my admittedly inadequate answer is:

For his own purposes.
 

Drakken

Sparrow
For me it was seeing the revulsion athesists and reprobates have for Christians. They don't get mad if you are a hindu, or a muslim, or a new age hippie, its only if you follow Christ that they flip out. The demons in the bible had the same kind of reactions when they encountered Jesus and the aspostles.
Along those same lines...from An Alt Right Defense of Theism:
Jews are so obsessively anti-Christian that rabbis have serious discussions about whether Jews should drink scotch, Scottish whiskey aged in sherry barrels. For very strict Jews, it is forbidden to drink wine from a winery owned by a non-Jew because of the possibility that some portion of the wine produced might have been used for “idolatrous” purposes – notably, it might be used in Holy Communion. That is, the fact some wine might have been used in Communion pollutes the entirety of the winery’s production. American Bourbon is kosher because it is always aged in new, charred barrels, whereas Scotch is not because it is aged in sherry casks, and sherry is made from wine, which might have Christian cooties because the winery might have been owned by a non-Jew who sold some of it for use in a church. Serious Jews literally behave like vampires, obsessively avoiding any relic of Christianity lest it sap their power.


Niehaus, Rabbi Akiva. "Sherry Casks A Halachic Perspective". Chicago Community Kollel, June 2010.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
For me, it wasn't anything political or current events-related that convinced me of the Devil's existence. Rather, it was his influence on my own life. When I noticed this, I also started to notice how he influences those around me and those closest to me.
 
If any of you not convinced, fast for an entire day from the night before, then go out to the edge of town in the direction of the nearest power plant or electrical grid distribution center that supplies power to whatever metropolitan area you live in. If you are in the sticks it may be a bit more difficult. Between night fall and sun rise, if you go out at least a few hundred meters into the wilderness, you can find what you are looking for. Watch for the forms to shape, and do not linger. Do not go if you are not strong in the Holy Spirit or if Jesus is not in your heart, for you will be misled. Do not attempt this if you are still actively sinning or have just overcome a difficult addiction. When one of you has done this, let me know. I'm curious to see how many more out there will see what I have.
 

ginsu

Woodpecker
I'm only getting started on this path. It took nearly six years just to go down the ''red pill'' path. Luckily there are people like roosh who are always steps ahead and serve as an example for us to compare and think on. The stage i'm in is more of a logical conclusion and acceptance of evils existence, not yet a knowing/feeling/spiritual one. You could call it Satan too, i guess that is just semantics

Everything needs to have its opposite. The masculine energy with Feminine energy. Dark with light. Good and bad. Love and Hate. Action and reaction. Life and Death etc etc. I do not think this world/universe whatever you want to call it can exist without the duality. its a necessity. The world can never be perfect as perfection and imperfection are two sides of the same coin also. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. With the rising force of evil i recognize that god and the church is the only place to go to stand against the things i am against in this world. The balance of good and evil in the world changes constantly but you can never get rid of evil completely. To believe in an ideal and perfect world on earth is just another trick of human naivety and the same thing that leftists fall for.

I have not read the bible yet, and i'm not praying and investing in getting closer to god as much as i would like. Its on the list and will inevitably happen. I was raised as atheist in a 90% atheist society it will probably take several years to undo the spiritual damage and brainwashing that i received. I'm not sure if i believe in god yet, i do believe in good and evil energies/influences in this world and i want to be on the right side of it.

You don't need to believe in god or the church or the bible to support the same cause. I know right wing guys who make fun of the church/god but don't realize they are on the same side and hurting their cause by ridiculing the people who ''believe in a man in the clouds''. There is no point to get hung up on what people believe or that they use different words to communicate the same thing and kick your own side.
 
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ginsu

Woodpecker
the conflict between Good and evil is a constant theme throughout all of humanities, myths and beliefs everywhere in the world among every kind of peoples. It takes a real kind of arrogance and stupidity to discard everything that came before you and consider yourself to be wiser.
 
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