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What does it mean that "game" is dead?
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This brings up a good point: another big reason why game is different & more difficult now than it was 5-10 years ago.
Birth control.
A lot more women, young women especially, are on the pill. It's tricking their bodies into thinking they're pregnant, and making them more attracted to beta-provider types, rather than the more traditional masculine man.
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A lot of those "bald meatheads in tracksuit bottoms" in EE are engaged in shady but lucrative business dealings. Over there, they are masculine and very well may be the provider type. Or the nerdy programmer making 4 times the average salary. Because to a young woman in Moldova making $500 a month, looks, muscles, fashion sense... all that stuff is probably going to play second fiddle to a stable income and security.
But yeah, in America you can be a tall, jacked doctor or successful lawyer and still end up marrying a 5. Unless you have some other status, massive "game", or just radiate total self-confidence, you have to work really hard here.
The moment I opened up to my spiritual father about a very private matter that not one on this earth acknowledges was the moment I felt what I would describe as a spiritual adoption, thus, a deep relationship had formed. It is a difficult path, but when it happens, you feel like you have a new father.
I'm not trying to dissuade others from accomplishing all or some of these things, but the real difference is that wealth game is unbeatable here, especially in the tech era. There are quite simply, especially when older men have on average tons more money than you do, too many people that have significant monetary reserves, credit or otherwise (more credit here = more fakes but that doesn't matter to women as they have no clue). There are as many good looking to hot women there as there are rich guys here. As we know, the scarcity isn't in male success in the west, it is in female beauty. And it takes at least 10, and mostly 15-30 years for men to "make it." By that time, with that scarcity in beauty, they also have the back end covered = cultural kakblocking of the young women for made men at that point.
I think the obvious explanation is that women caught onto the wiles of men. They realized that game, as historically taught online, is basically just emotional abuse and manipulation. The internet allows women to share notes across the globe. I think the collective female consciousness rose after a decade of basically being vulnerable to being used as a sex toy by any guy who read a book and had the gumption to approach after a few beers. That is not to say this isn't happening to women anymore, but the efficacy is waning. The morphogenic field is shifting so to speak
Instagram and dating apps obviously have an effect as well, but every generation experiences a value shift. So the girls who came of age in the early to mid 2000s are going to have a different value background than the girls who are coming of age within the last 5 or so years. Young women are a very powerful cultural force and in this inverted age women are taking their cues from the young, rather than guiding them into adulthood proactively.
We are in a vastly different cultural and economic climate than when game became a "thing". Everything has changed since then, so why wouldn't game? The game has changed, the world has changed, and as a man it is easy to get left behind. This is a literary trope, to quote Jordan Peterson, it is the eternal dragon of chaos. Like the great king Beowulf, he was able to slay monsters for only so long. Kids are still figuring out how to get girls, but now it revolves a lot more around improving your looks and becoming a micro-celebrity.
Instagram and dating apps obviously have an effect as well, but every generation experiences a value shift. So the girls who came of age in the early to mid 2000s are going to have a different value background than the girls who are coming of age within the last 5 or so years. Young women are a very powerful cultural force and in this inverted age women are taking their cues from the young, rather than guiding them into adulthood proactively.
We are in a vastly different cultural and economic climate than when game became a "thing". Everything has changed since then, so why wouldn't game? The game has changed, the world has changed, and as a man it is easy to get left behind. This is a literary trope, to quote Jordan Peterson, it is the eternal dragon of chaos. Like the great king Beowulf, he was able to slay monsters for only so long. Kids are still figuring out how to get girls, but now it revolves a lot more around improving your looks and becoming a micro-celebrity.
Looks like daygame has been dealt a mortal blow in the UK:
www.dailymail.co.uk
Wolf whistling and harassment in the street 'will be made a crime'
Home Secretary Suella Braverman announced the move as she insisted perpetrators who stop women feeling 'safe' will face the 'consequences they deserve'.
If you are doing a good job of talking to girls, they will be in no way inclined to report you for harassment just for talking to them and even stopping them on the street.Looks like daygame has been dealt a mortal blow in the UK:
Wolf whistling and harassment in the street 'will be made a crime'
Home Secretary Suella Braverman announced the move as she insisted perpetrators who stop women feeling 'safe' will face the 'consequences they deserve'.
Yea, just make sure you pass an unknown and variable threshold of charm and looks before talking to a girl... and you won't have to get arrested for being an autist!
Looks like daygame has been dealt a mortal blow in the UK:
Wolf whistling and harassment in the street 'will be made a crime'
Home Secretary Suella Braverman announced the move as she insisted perpetrators who stop women feeling 'safe' will face the 'consequences they deserve'.
This stuff all stems from the cognitive dissonance liberal women get when they're harassed by blacks and Muslims, which will be the vast majority of any of these kind of interactions.
But of course, they have to pretend that that's not the case, so all men get blamed, and laws hit the statute books, which will likely be applied more heavily to whites, as liberal women will only feel comfortable lashing out, having been leered at all day by foreigners, at a white guy who tries to strike up conversation at a bus stop.
Looks like daygame has been dealt a mortal blow in the UK:
Wolf whistling and harassment in the street 'will be made a crime'
Home Secretary Suella Braverman announced the move as she insisted perpetrators who stop women feeling 'safe' will face the 'consequences they deserve'.
I was reading a UK subreddit about this & was suprised at the amount of men getting upvotes for saying how awful & terrible this law is & how it basically gives women the right to get any unnatractive male who approaches thrown into prison.
People are waking up. Just wanted to add some much needed positivity.
Best resolution to this is to stop approaching white liberal woman. They are unnatractive compared to Latinas & East Europeans & basically example the worst traits of cowardly beta males whilst having female body parts.
In 5 years time they will be screaming & crying about why good men "are not approaching" anymore.
I think we already passed that stage. Now they just cope with delusional non-sense like "non-binary", "lesbian", "queer", etc.
Unfortunately all signs in the UK have pointed to it being at the forefront of Western wokeness. At the risk of blackpilling, we heard the same thing here in the US before the midterm elections (people are getting red pilled!), and low and behold voters turned out for more baby murder and lockdowns.
The natives are so far gone with being bought off by socialism and the (broke) pension systems, they don't even care anymore about progeny or future generations. The problem is that without leadership, any structure for women, etc, they'll likely fail anyway. That's why it keeps coming up that the collapse is the only real solution, and then it'll still take generational time/new formation of culture to step in.
The software of white women is just completely trash, the opposite of the software they should've had. And yeah it's a weird situation when almost all of your women are deficient men in a woman's body. That may be traits of a cowardly beta male to a degree (as they naturally eschew any responsibility etc), but also in general I would argue it's more the traits of an alpha man (dominance, assertiveness, go getter, result oriented, getting into conflict, loud, at the foreground. And that's so off turning. They think that men are attracted to the same things they are attracted to in men, and that's just simply the opposite for we're neurologically, psychologically and hormonally complete opposites, perfect puzzle pieces fitting together as designed by God. As Rollo Tomassi said, they become the man they want to marry, which goes more hardcore once you get into very competitive professional fields, but in general also with average women this dimension is there to a degree.
Correct. It will intensify though, especially since the advent of social media. Imagine the women late 30s now they were in their prime without social media. Social media has changed the game, fed the delusion of women in general because of the abundance of attention they get, and inflated their expectations and standards to unrealistic heights. So the women we see having breakdowns now in their late 30s, imagine that in 10 years, or 20, it's gonna be a battlefield.
Correct, the rot is too deep. Individualism plays a key part in this too, for people as they ''only have this life, this is all we have!'' just have blinders on and don't care about God, tradition, their bloodline, or the future.
It's an SMV issue to as the most desired are caucasians, across the ledger. That's what makes it even worse. It's almost like a pre-determined setup for a culture, or set of cultures, that were the only ones advancing so far in wealth and technology that the eventual result was baked in, in almost a universal sense since the world is fallen. The only good thing is that the increasing clown world will give us the opportunity to earn crowns through greater suffering and repentance, as Fr. Seraphim suggested.
Remember, as ZH says, in the long run all survival drops to zero, anyway.
Imploding a society takes more time than exploding it (through war), but once the virus has nestled, it cannot be undone anymore for the impact at the backend is so deep and permanently destructive.
I kind of agree with this, but I also think women are like water, and they take the shape of whatever container you pour them into.
A lot of liberal girls haven't really given their political beliefs any real consideration, and they're just parroting whatever leftish gibberish they hear at their universities and on social media.
I believe if one of them were to start dating a traditional, masculine man; they would quickly morph into a more traditional, feminine woman.
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Thus, we extract the obvious axiom: we need spiritually based men, so that they can lead their women to become wholesome. Otherwise, women will take up the role of the man, and a significant modern indicator of this phenomenon is their preference for pants.