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<blockquote data-quote="dave299" data-source="post: 1563778" data-attributes="member: 20695"><p>I will post this and ask you to carefully read this and consider it. I do not post this to start a prideful debate, nor to argue. I have found you to be insightful, Roosh, with the trajectory of the world and where it is leading. On this topic, you are not 100% correct. I want to make something very clear, there is a huge difference between old testament law and new testament law. Before Jesus came things were different. </p><p></p><p>I want to make two important points here. Jesus tells us to be his disciples. There has been a constant battle between good and evil and the battleground is man. We are to bring others to Christ. </p><p></p><p>The first point is we all deserve hell and cannot go to heaven because we don‘t deserve it. In the old testament people made sacrifices to God and there were different rules before Christ. This is because Christ was the ultimate sacrifice by dying on the cross. It‘s only by faith through grace that we can go to heaven, by accepting his free gift and by having a personal relationship with him is the only way. When you have a genuine relationship with Jesus you won‘t want to disobey. Naturally though at times you will slip, because we can‘t be perfect. It‘s only by God‘s grace we can even have a chance to enter into heaven at all. He wants us to obey, in if the relationship is genuine, if you want to do someone wrong, you will have a sense of guilt and not want to. Maybe you‘ll do it anyways but you won‘t feel good about it. Let me be clear, you don‘t get to say a small prayer and say you believe to get a free ticket into heaven. Satan believes in God and demons know the scripture word for word. The way to heaven can‘t be earned. </p><p></p><p>The catholic religion is blasphemy, because a man is claiming to be able to forgive you. Only Jesus can wipe you clean. No man can do that. You cannot confess sin and be forgiven by any man. The catholic religion is based upon priests who want to be called father, who believe they have the power to forgive. </p><p></p><p>The bible makes it abundantly clear when you die your spirit is in heaven with Christ, or in hell. You cannot pray for the dead. When someone goes to hell, they are cut off from God completely. That is the final judgement, and you cannot pray for them anymore. It is tragic and the stakes are huge. </p><p></p><p>John the baptist was a good friend of Jesus. Peter was a disciple and fisherman. Jesus said come and become a fisher of men. He calls us to be his disciples, he did not tell us what denomination to follow. He made it plain and clear. </p><p></p><p>I think you are a good man Roosh, and if you delete this comment or if you don‘t agree with it, I hope you consider it. I agree that many modern things like evangelicalism distort what God meant, and give his word a bad name. Many men follow you, your goal here must be to bring as many of them to the truth as possible and that is why I am writing this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave299, post: 1563778, member: 20695"] I will post this and ask you to carefully read this and consider it. I do not post this to start a prideful debate, nor to argue. I have found you to be insightful, Roosh, with the trajectory of the world and where it is leading. On this topic, you are not 100% correct. I want to make something very clear, there is a huge difference between old testament law and new testament law. Before Jesus came things were different. I want to make two important points here. Jesus tells us to be his disciples. There has been a constant battle between good and evil and the battleground is man. We are to bring others to Christ. The first point is we all deserve hell and cannot go to heaven because we don‘t deserve it. In the old testament people made sacrifices to God and there were different rules before Christ. This is because Christ was the ultimate sacrifice by dying on the cross. It‘s only by faith through grace that we can go to heaven, by accepting his free gift and by having a personal relationship with him is the only way. When you have a genuine relationship with Jesus you won‘t want to disobey. Naturally though at times you will slip, because we can‘t be perfect. It‘s only by God‘s grace we can even have a chance to enter into heaven at all. He wants us to obey, in if the relationship is genuine, if you want to do someone wrong, you will have a sense of guilt and not want to. Maybe you‘ll do it anyways but you won‘t feel good about it. Let me be clear, you don‘t get to say a small prayer and say you believe to get a free ticket into heaven. Satan believes in God and demons know the scripture word for word. The way to heaven can‘t be earned. The catholic religion is blasphemy, because a man is claiming to be able to forgive you. Only Jesus can wipe you clean. No man can do that. You cannot confess sin and be forgiven by any man. The catholic religion is based upon priests who want to be called father, who believe they have the power to forgive. The bible makes it abundantly clear when you die your spirit is in heaven with Christ, or in hell. You cannot pray for the dead. When someone goes to hell, they are cut off from God completely. That is the final judgement, and you cannot pray for them anymore. It is tragic and the stakes are huge. John the baptist was a good friend of Jesus. Peter was a disciple and fisherman. Jesus said come and become a fisher of men. He calls us to be his disciples, he did not tell us what denomination to follow. He made it plain and clear. I think you are a good man Roosh, and if you delete this comment or if you don‘t agree with it, I hope you consider it. I agree that many modern things like evangelicalism distort what God meant, and give his word a bad name. Many men follow you, your goal here must be to bring as many of them to the truth as possible and that is why I am writing this. [/QUOTE]
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