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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MichaelWitcoff" data-source="post: 1563875" data-attributes="member: 16038"><p>There are things many Orthodox mistakenly reject as Western innovations which can be found in the writings of pre-schism Western Orthodox Church Fathers; for example, the distinction between venial and mortal sin. The distinction comes from the writings of St. John the Theologian (the Apostle) and is present in the writings of Western Orthodox  Saints. I’m not saying the specific issue discussed is this one, just highlighting it as an example and to caution people not to automatically “throw out the baby with the bathwater” when they hear things that sound “too Western.” Investigate and you will find interesting things.</p></blockquote><p></p>