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<blockquote data-quote="josemiguel" data-source="post: 1557004" data-attributes="member: 23030"><p>The problem with Calvin's soteriology is its Christological implications. Calvin's view of nature is Nestorian-lite, nature is fully encapsulated and cannot both act at the same time. Ergo, if a human does something, God can't be doing it and vice versa. This is why traditional strict Calvinism see faith as a worthless virtue that doesn't have a role in salvation, otherwise a human activity, the activity of mental belief, would play a role in deciding human salvation, and God doesn't since He can't act where a human does. Strict Calvinists condemn Lutherans for holding such faith as a prerequisite for salvation. </p><p></p><p>This view of human and divine nature lead Calvin to conclude on a monergist Christology, for if Christ had an acting human will, then He isn't acting with a Divine will. </p><p></p><p>Calvin's soteriology was never considered in the Orthodox world naturally because Orthodoxy worships the real Christ Who is both fully human and fully God with a human and divine will that work in lockstep together synergistically. </p><p></p><p>Orthodox concept described by predestination is not the monergist concept of Calvin. This was Calvin's error: starting with soteriology then altering Christology and Theology to make it work, instead of following the Orthodox Ordo Theologae, where the starting point is Theology, specifically with the Person of the Father. All else the Fathers' worked out from the Person of the Father as the starting point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="josemiguel, post: 1557004, member: 23030"] The problem with Calvin's soteriology is its Christological implications. Calvin's view of nature is Nestorian-lite, nature is fully encapsulated and cannot both act at the same time. Ergo, if a human does something, God can't be doing it and vice versa. This is why traditional strict Calvinism see faith as a worthless virtue that doesn't have a role in salvation, otherwise a human activity, the activity of mental belief, would play a role in deciding human salvation, and God doesn't since He can't act where a human does. Strict Calvinists condemn Lutherans for holding such faith as a prerequisite for salvation. This view of human and divine nature lead Calvin to conclude on a monergist Christology, for if Christ had an acting human will, then He isn't acting with a Divine will. Calvin's soteriology was never considered in the Orthodox world naturally because Orthodoxy worships the real Christ Who is both fully human and fully God with a human and divine will that work in lockstep together synergistically. Orthodox concept described by predestination is not the monergist concept of Calvin. This was Calvin's error: starting with soteriology then altering Christology and Theology to make it work, instead of following the Orthodox Ordo Theologae, where the starting point is Theology, specifically with the Person of the Father. All else the Fathers' worked out from the Person of the Father as the starting point. [/QUOTE]
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