What left wing views do you hold?

flaghunter

Sparrow
Anyone who has seen the social dilemma knows how algorithms keep feeding you content from the same side, and frequently somebody with a couple of views on one side ends up with more extreme opinions and less reliant on their own judgement.

I always find it interesting when somebody leaning to one side has a view in the other direction - it's usually a far more balanced view than somebody who is on that side generally.

I'll begin - I hold right side views like the majority of posters here but I have no issue with state gay marriage (once adoption rights are not attached) - it doesn't take opportunity away from traditional couples or greatly affect those outside of it.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Pro organic food, and pro environment without falling into the climate change trap.

I am fine with aspects of a welfare state, such as unemployment insurance, universal healthcare, and state funded pensions, but I also recognize that these can create dependency on the government and unfunded liabilities. So there needs to be balanced accounting.

In favour of strong financial regulation to reign in Wall Street greed and profligacy. Also pro labour unions, up to a point.

Anti-war unless it is purely defensive.

In favour of indigenous peoples’ rights to land and tribal self-determination. This may extend to nationalization of natural resources.

The thing is, so many of these positions used to be left wing, but now are associated with the nationalist right.
 

Guitarman

Pelican
I'm in favour of free high quality education for all. Although the motivation behind this ideal is the right wing one of equal opportunity, not of equal outcome.

with equality of education everyone has the best shot of making the best of themselves in life.

The outcome then depends on how the individual applies themselves.
 

Guitarman

Pelican
Pro organic food, and pro environment without falling into the climate change trap.

I am fine with aspects of a welfare state, such as unemployment insurance, universal healthcare, and state funded pensions, but I also recognize that these can create dependency on the government and unfunded liabilities. So there needs to be balanced accounting.

In favour of strong financial regulation to reign in Wall Street greed and profligacy. Also pro labour unions, up to a point.

Anti-war unless it is purely defensive.

In favour of indigenous peoples’ rights to land and tribal self-determination. This may extend to nationalization of natural resources.

The thing is, so many of these positions used to be left wing, but now are associated with the nationalist right.

I would agree with most of these points as we have these here in the UK, although the benefits of "organic food" ( unless you grow it yourself) are unproven.
 

Jamal D

Robin
Utilities, food production and healthcare should be owned by local/national governments. If you independently can`t sustain your own existence then you don`t have a country
 
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The right-left dichotomy is an illusion designed to distract you. This is why, for example, identity politics started ramping up just as Occupy Wall Street was getting big. Can't have the plebs uniting against those with the actual money and power.

The yellow vest movement in France is a good synthesis of things most people probably agree with.
 

Elipe

Kingfisher
I'll begin - I hold right side views like the majority of posters here but I have no issue with state gay marriage (once adoption rights are not attached) - it doesn't take opportunity away from traditional couples or greatly affect those outside of it.
This is rooted in the libertarian myth that morality/culture is something that can be isolated and separated from public life. Libertarians believe in a kind of societal compartmentalization that simply doesn't exist. What you do in private absolutely does affect what you do in public, and vice versa. When society permits sodomy, even in private, it is really giving a kind of tacit privilege toward anti-Christian morality and sentiment.

It's like I've said before on this forum, when you practice this kind of "don't ask don't tell" closed doors policy, the sodomites just ended up amassing power behind the closed doors while you paraded around in your libertarian bubble of believing that you've successfully compartmentalized them. They literally got in bed with powerbrokers and slowly chipped away at the rest of society's moral framework until they were able to burst out of the closet and make brazen demands fully backed by the amenable authorities they've been porking in the butt for years with financial lubrication. That's how you end up with the LGBT alphabet soup and what is drolly labeled the lavender mafia.

(And of course, they had a lot of help from certain tribes looking to subvert the West)

Purging heretics isn't just some silly wargaming meme, it's something any serious society must do. Even the SJWs realize this, which is why they've begun purging the heretics of their hedonistic religion: people like you and me. Either enforce the anti-blasphemy laws, or have the anti-blasphemy laws be rewritten and enforced against you.
 
Satan is the god of this world, he gives unto his slaves and drives their madness over the precipice.

Seriously though, all nations (people, races) should have the power to rule over themselves, in separation from others.
 

kel

Ostrich
Some elements of the welfare state, but of course that requires some kind of shared values and common sense first, as a base, for example:

  • You can't have state run healthcare and pretend that being a hamplanet is healthy and beautiful.
  • It doesn't make sense to have state run childcare so that women can make powerpoints instead of raising their kids.
etc. The US has generally been skeptical of the welfare state specifically because Americans ultimately knew they had little common values and would have fewer and fewer as time went on and the country became more and more of an economic zone and sleepaway camp for economic migrants. Other countries has been more amenable to the welfare state because they did have a shared history, but that's disappearing as infinity migration increases and the globalist managerial class takes over, so countries in Europe, for example, are learning the lesson the US did a while ago.

It's a shame, though.
 

Pdalion

Pigeon
Car insurance should be state run. If that's leftist then count me in. The ridiculous premiums required in some locales and increase in premium if you ever have a slight violation amount to highway robbery in my opinion.
 

stugatz

Pelican
Maybe not "left wing views", but I still tend to chafe at anything overtly right wing in music, the movies, and so on. I can't hear the song "God Bless the USA" without cringing myself half to death, which didn't help at the couple of Trump rallies I attended. (Although, incidentally, I love our national anthem, vintage songs, and older patriotic songs like "America the Beautiful", so maybe it's just recent songs of this type.)

I'm well aware the right can write and direct great stuff - just look at some of the classic films like Lawrence of Arabia, Ben-Hur, Dirty Harry, or any of the tough, no-nonsense actioners directed by guys like Clint Eastwood, Don Siegel, John Milius or John McTiernan. However, these days, anything the right comes out with tends to resemble brainless movies like Air Force One or The Delta Force. If you're going to take back the culture, improve your content.

Even if I've respected Clint Eastwood as a director for decades, I chafed at the movie American Sniper when it came out, and still have yet to see it. The kinds of people watching it were usually those who had no taste in movies, and cried at all of the boomercringe patriotic commercials playing all over Fox News alongside the viagra ads. (The Passion of the Christ is another huge example - everyone reacting with horror to it in the theater, and going on about how powerful it was hadn't seen enough movies to know what the hell they were talking about. Maybe I've seen too many sadistic horror movies in my time, but throwing 90 minutes of graphic violence in my face isn't going to do much more than numb me after a while. Gibson knew he had a guaranteed cash cow when he released it.)

Forgive me, everyone, I'm still a recovering leftist. That's Frank Zappa as my avatar, and in many ways I maybe base my beliefs off of his maverick nature a little too much.
 
The minimum wage should be 15/hr, (if not closer to 25/hr, to keep it up with inflation).

That being said, I think that many people who are complaining about a 15/hr minimum wage today wouldn't show up to work anyways. They'll say things like, "I wanted 15 per hour, I didn't want to show up at 4 am and unload the truck..." or "I wanted 15 per hour, I didn't want to stay until 11 to help close the store..."

Many of them won't take the time to learn a trade either.

You also can't raise minimum wage and allow for unlimited immigration.

So, I'd tell the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, "Politics is the art of compromise. You can have 15/hr minimum wage. I just want every illegal immigrant to be deported. We can start by making it impossible for them to work or function in this nation."
 

Cervantes

Woodpecker
Pro organic food, and pro environment without falling into the climate change trap.

I am fine with aspects of a welfare state, such as unemployment insurance, universal healthcare, and state funded pensions, but I also recognize that these can create dependency on the government and unfunded liabilities. So there needs to be balanced accounting.

In favour of strong financial regulation to reign in Wall Street greed and profligacy. Also pro labour unions, up to a point.

Anti-war unless it is purely defensive.

In favour of indigenous peoples’ rights to land and tribal self-determination. This may extend to nationalization of natural resources.

The thing is, so many of these positions used to be left wing, but now are associated with the nationalist right.
These positions are all traditional national socialism.
 

Sherman

Ostrich
I actually agree that the American medical system is insane and the idea that competition is improving the system is a fiction. The prices are jacked up over 100 times more than what people pay in other countries and there is endless paperwork. When I lived in the Netherlands, 300 euros a month was taken out of my paycheck and when I went to a doctor I never saw a bill and there was zero paperwork.
 
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