What Next? The Road After Trump

Slim Shady

Ostrich
Gold Member
For a start, stop voting:




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That article, which they don't allow you to share on IG or FB btw, is most excellent. Very well logically reasoned, and written on Nov 11.
 
The Contact Tracers are revealed the new Stasi, and coming from the dregs of society they will relish this first taste of power. They will delight in reporting your whereabouts, and will find it delicious to direct that the boot of The State kneels on your neck as you cry you can't breathe.
I wonder if that has not started already. Ethnic Cleansing without the ethnicity.
 
Cross post from election thread:

Texas state house rep pushing for Texas to leave.



Link to Texas Nationalist Movement website - claims to have around 400k in supporters. Looks fairly professional and organized based on the website. Maybe worth exploring further for those interested.


 
Realize this: voting fraud has been going on for a long time. Decades. Many Decades. It happens mainly in the big urban swamps that are ran by the political machine. And a few of those big cities can move national elections. Sure, that is not good. But, on the flip side, voter fraud would not be needed if this country was not actually majority blue. Thus, since voter fraud was needed, it is actually majority red. Who knows if the Democrats would ever had been a majority anything without all those decades of fraud.

Let that sink in. We are the majority. What we have is constant 24/7/365 psychological warfare and gaslighting by the media elites to convince everyone otherwise. And the radical lefties do nothing but howl and rage and make noise. How about the majority of this country just turns off the media. Turn it off. It is a psy op against you so 10 - 20% of the country, mobilized by the 1%, can rule the majority.

It only works if the psy op works. So just ignore them. Build groups, families, friends, connections that support each other. Instead of reading news online, talk to the people around you. Get involved in local politics--you might actually be able to do something about it. The bi-coastal elites can go jump in their respective oceans. Personally, I took out a print subscription to the Epoch Times, and that is how I get my news. Once a week I get an old-fashioned news paper. Look through it, and I am done with the news for the week. News is not ignored, but compartmentalized and from a source I am beginning to trust..

If the majority dumps the media and big tech, they will go broke. Plain and simple. It is not a monopoly if 60 - 70% of the customers walk away in mass. It has to start somewhere. Advertising is what pays for it all. So stop looking at ads. Or, if you see an ad, DO NOT BUY IT. If it was a good product, why does it need to be advertised? Buy things that are not advertised. Small example, but we use Ajax for washing dishes. Have never seen it advertised, it works just fine, and costs less than everything else. See a trend there? I don't know if they are owned by an evil conglomerate or whatever, but the point is they do not advertise so they do not fund the corrupt news media, etc.

Accept the notion that if you want something useful and good, that is not out to take your soul, then you need to pay for it. Free stuff from the tech giants are the most expensive things you can take. If you want good news, pay for it. If you want good email (like ProtonMail) then pay for it. Do you think they give you free stuff because they like you?

And, ironic writing this on a forum, but reduce your exposure to the internet. If it is on the internet, make it the old internet (forums, web rings, hobby pages, etc,.) A little bit is OK, but, come on, people are turning into a race of iPhone zombies. I remember reading Silicone Snake Oil by Cliff Stoll (also author of The Cuckoo's Egg) back in the late 1990's, when the web was still dial-up using Netscape. He scoffed at the idea the net would run everything--not that it could not, but rather why would anyone want it to? People made fun of the book then and now. But you know what, he was absolutely right. We just did not listen to him. It is time we did.

I am sad to see Trump go, but look at what he did: He bought us four good years, he buried the 2012 "autopsy" report that claimed the GOP would have to pander to Hispanics (open borders, another amnesty, etc.) to ever win again--by getting record votes from Hispanics, he exposed the swamp creatures in the GOP (Paul Ryan, et al), he gave a home to the thrown-away working class, he proved that tariffs against China actually improved our economy despite the egg-head economic theorists who ignored reality for a theory for so long, he made the media make a fool of themselves, and he pointed out the systemic voter fraud going on. Could anyone else have done that?

Was listening to Fr. Chad Ripperger (an exorcist) the other day and he said that demons always play their card too fast, or something to that effect. At the first sign of things going their way, they claim victory. When, in the end, they lose and are sent back to where they came. That is what the leftists are doing: claiming victory too soon. Do not fall for it.
 
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Castelnau

Kingfisher
Glad you started this thread.

1. Take a break from politics, current events, SJW rageporn. Focus inward and strengthen your body and mind.

2. Start a family and have kids if you haven't already. This is going to be a long grueling trench war and we might not see the final victory in our lifetime. You need to sire strong sons that will continue the fight. (Hamilcar Barca)
 

Transsimian

Ostrich
Gold Member
Credible threats of secession might be the one thing left to get countrywide voting reform.

No soldier is willing to die or murder Americans over a rigged-in president.
Soldiers talk, and I doubt even the lifelong democrats believe Biden beat Obama's record.

Thus, the establishment will either have to accept voting safeguards, or they'll lose some of the most important states.
 

droughtmeat

Woodpecker
Cross post from election thread:

Texas state house rep pushing for Texas to leave.



Link to Texas Nationalist Movement website - claims to have around 400k in supporters. Looks fairly professional and organized based on the website. Maybe worth exploring further for those interested.


Is this feasible? Would probably have to begin with more Republicans/Patriots moving to Texas.
Does the constitution allow it?
 

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
  • Use cash, crypto and silver whenever possible. Even better, use untraceable crypto.
  • Try to buy used, or off the books, so that the state gets no sales tax.

    Try to starve the beast as much as possible. I would say support small business where possible, but this depends on the situation. Many small business owners are actual leftists, so there is no reason to try and save them.
 
Is this feasible? Would probably have to begin with more Republicans/Patriots moving to Texas.
Does the constitution allow it?
The constitution is silent on states leaving the union. Reference the Civil War, where Lincoln, right or wrong, decided that states could not. But, whereas the Civil War had the moral imperative to free the slaves, what would be the moral imperative here: keeping Obamacare? More solar panels? Mask mandates?

There were no real national armies to speak of pre-civil wars. It was made of state armies. It was one thing for an army from NY to fight an army from Alabama. But, today's military is made from people from all over, and the majority of each unit would likely be opposed to keeping a state by force. The special forces, for example, are typically boys from the South. So are the soy boys from the coasts going to sign up for an army? Think Antifa would last ten minutes against an organized state army made of experienced hunters, marksmen, and veterans?

Another option, throwing the idea out there, would be for a state to declare null an void violations of the 10th amendment, and to put a cap of federal taxation of its citizens. Department of Education--null and void. EPA - null and void. Social Security - null and void. All Federal guns laws -- null and void. The Federal Register would be the size of a Dr. Seuss book. Unless it is spelled out in the constitution or it is directly part of interstate commerce, the federal government has no legitimate authority. State and local law enforcement could be in charge of rounding up any Feds who violate any of that.

Ultimately, if anything, we should be like Switzerland, where most people do not even know who their president is--because it does not really matter. The Cantons run themselves. Don't like this one, then go to that one. Of course, liberals hate that because their reason for being is to coerce others.
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
Many small business owners are actual leftists, so there is no reason to try and save them.
This is very true where I live. Bernie or Biden stickers, rainbow flags, BLM signs, heavily enforcing masks, getting angry at businesses that ignore the lockdown, supporting the lockdown then setting up a GoFundMe for handouts.

I have no desire to support them. A lot of them are overpriced and overrated anyway.
 

AntoniusofEfa

Kingfisher
Yep. If I have to, I just give my business directly to the big boss. For daily necessities, I try to avoid any branded, global producers. There are quite a few of these around.
 

Cervantes

Woodpecker
How to deal with this in spiritual, material and political terms:

First the spiritual:

We've been living the chastisement for some time. if you're a Christian, and repent of sin, it is forgiven and won't be used against you --- in heaven. On earth we all have to live with the consequences of sin that we have allowed, condoned and participated in.

This chastisement will involve among other things the total destruction of our evil society. Did we expect God would tolerate this forever?

People are going to live through this chastisement one of two ways: repentant and unrepentant. If you're repentant you'll be sickened to see good things that you love destroyed: Churches, museums, historic monuments, holidays etc. But keep the faith, keep your eyes on God and other things cannot be destroyed: you will not lose your humanity. You will love and be loved by those around you.

For those who are unrepentant it will be worse. Those who are cheering this on and still participating in it will be consumed by it. God will continue to withdraw grace. They will get further and further debased. They are being turned into something similar to an animal: driven only by base desire for food, sex and entertainment. Look at Antifa or trannies - this is what happens as they progress down this path. People without grace feel constant despair that they don't understand. That is why they need anti-depressants. Often it ends in suicide.

As material conditions get worse everyone's stress levels will increase. Prayer and closeness to God will help.

Remember this phrase "There but for the Grace of God go I." It doesn't mean "There but for some lucky break from God go I". It means: that person is destroying themselves because they have rejected God and are living without God's Grace.

God's Grace will be a critical resource to get through this.


Now the material terms:

None of us know what is going to happen. We're speculating and there are some good guesses: it could be a 1984 style, or soviet style police state. It might be hyper inflation, high crime. Possibly an economic collapse. But maybe not.

You need to prepare for uncertainty and that means two essential strategies:

1. Make like minded friends you can trust. This is more important than guns and stored food or whatever. The safest bet is to limit this circle of trust to faithful Christians. People whose concerns are more for the afterlife than this life are going to be a lot less likely to be turned under pressure.

Avoid trusting anyone who believes the television, even family members. Don't argue politics with family and friends. That time is over. To people outside this trusted circle just act like a normie tier sheep. Deepen relationships with people who already get it.

2. Make preparations that "create options". We don't know the future. It is way better to be prepared moderately well for many possibilities than really well for just one - if that one thing doesn't happen. For example: if you're already storing 2 months of food - don't go build a 5 year food stockpile if you have not done other reasonable preparations: get a firearm, have updated passports for your whole family, have a large dog, buy crypto, have a few thousand dollars of cash on hand, have a small electric generator in the basement, have 2 weeks of potable water in storage.

Keep thinking of situations and what you might need to solve that situation and go get it. Only after you've got a lot of basic preps should you level them up. There was this prepper in Venezuela who blogged about the collapse and one learning: he had to abandon his suburban prepper home with all this investment in rainwater collection and tools etc. because the neighborhood became unsafe.

Start buying as much as you can from local suppliers. Build direct relationships if you can. For example - if you're not a homesteader - buy as much food as you can via farm shares, meat shares, from farm stands. etc. You won't know if national or local supplies will break first. But you can always buy from the chain supermarkets. But local sources will have limited supply - if you're not already part of the farm share now - you won't be able to join later.


Political:

Get off social media. Don't call attention to yourself. Don't argue with strangers online under your real name. Political repression is going to increase and they will be going back in time looking for people. We don't know how bad it will get. You should have removed those pozzed social networks already - but if you have not - the sooner the better. It is preferable to not even have them to share normie home snaps. Those are used to doxx you and your friends.

The Republican party is over. This is an absolute good. Decades of investment by the enemy in fake conservatives is now destroyed. We tried while it still seemed possible to turn the tide, put political pressure on etc. That is over - the only path now is acceleration. Vote for the worst candidate in any race. If there is someone who will implement bad policies that will wreck the system - that is your candidate.

Up until now the political class pretended to care about your concerns. That will end. There won't be more talk about God, traditional family, morals, illegal immigration, etc. They said those things before to get your vote. They don't care any more. You're a "terrorist" and an "enemy combatant" now.

TV is sophisticated mind control. Nobody who is exposed to it enough can resist it- it will zombify you. Don't allow it in your house. As a man its your responsibility to make sure your wife and kids are not watching it. No cable, no broadcast, no netflix. Streaming of selected pre-2000 shows.

We're unlikely to live past the decline of our civilization. Just resign yourself to that. Prepare your children and grand children to be the kind of people who can rebuild.
 
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aynrus

Kingfisher
I guess I don't have optimistic outlook....but I lived through the collapse of USSR and not looking to be in another USSR again, neither looking to live through one of them collapsing on me again.
I fought against USSR and I know won't be able to keep my mouth shut in the States, and will get in trouble. It's like being back to that place again. I think it's time to exit.

Regarding comparison to Switzerland, where cantons run things mostly - I don't have such optimism about US conservative states. I travel a lot all over the country and the signs of red menace and concession to brainwash are everywhere.
Dog muzzles/face diapers are almost everywhere....TX has mask order for a very long time and TX is turning blue.
Hordes from California and NY are moving to conservative states and helping to turn them blue. Georgia just voted blue (much of this is also a result of them accepting brainwash to believe they're in grave danger from fake scamdemic). Rural Missouri full of masked zombies right now. Kentucky'd been having statewide mask order for many months, with heavy compliance, and a Democrat Governor to boot. And I'd run into some 1984 stuff in Tennessee recently. Use of face diapers is a great indicator of complacency... complacency with anything, actually: election fraud, oppression of dissidents, travel bans, free speech suppression....and well may be with camps, mass executions, etc too.

I just learned that the state of North Dakota, just like California, is using orwellian, dystopian private data-collection and "identity management" company ID.me for their unemployment payments approval and I think driver's license too (ID.me is a real frontrunner of Great Reset stuff and the truly orwellian nightmare).
Social Security Administration is using ID.me already, so not sure if they made it mandatory yet. Veteran Administraion uses it and this created much trouble for many veterans.
I called South Dakota as I want to get their ID, instead of California one, and again, scamdemic stuff...endless waits for DMV representative, leaving messages and no one ever calling back - all because of flu hoax, and offices are closed for walk-ins, appointments had to be made very far in advance. And this is South Dakota, low population state supposedly the least submitted to scamdemic hoax.

I don't believe the individual states will do a thing to really curb election fraud or prevent violations of human rights and constitutional freedoms that are happening right now. Seems like they're happily going along with all that. Supreme Court are traitors, conservative states too, just like all the RINOS who "condemed" God-given right of the public to enter the public building full of traitorous politicians. I think they all need to first live though full 1984, like it was mentioned here, before the system implodes and something else can appear on its ruins. But how long will it take? As Soviet Union shows these things can last one's lifetime and generations. Another possibility is China-isation of mentality here and extermination of freedom-loving spirit and people genuinely supporting 1984 direction for generations, like most do in China.

DC is looking more and more like Lubyanka square to me (KGB headquarters). And I walked by Lubyanka square during Soviet commie times, it was uneasy feeling just to look in that direction. My father's university roommate did 9 years in prison for being anti-Soviet dissident (only to become a leader of one well-known country later, after USSR collapsed).
Like it's being discussed in Corona-scam subforum here, seems like one should look for alternative landing.
I don't want to hide from them and keep quiet for unkown number of years...don't want to be among them. Anyway vaccine requirements might make it impossible to just quietly hide from them.
 
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aynrus

Kingfisher
At this point, I wonder if they start going after bank and brokerage accounts of the dissidents.
The dystopian KYC ("know your client") rule forced after Patriot Act adoption allows banks to easily close one's accounts or even temporarily freeze funds for any reason, without providing explation or providing some vague one that they're not satisfied with your "identity" or sources of income. They do it on a regular basis already, with random people.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
At this point, I wonder if they start going after bank and brokerage accounts of the dissidents.
The dystopian KYC ("know your client") rule forced after Patriot Act adoption allows banks to easily close one's accounts or even temporarily freeze funds for any reason, without providing explation or providing some vague one that they're not satisfied with your "identity" or sources of income. They do it on a regular basis already, with random people.

That’s a really good point. What is the option? Off shore banking?
 
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