What to Invest in the next 3 years?

qwertyuiop

Woodpecker
9% a year is definitly doable. I read the above posts and don’t think anyone above consistently beats the market.

Right now the play is high growth enterprise software firms. I know this because i work in tech.

They run at a loss to grow 20-60% YoY. Most customers are losses the first years due to high paid sales/marketing/etc but are 80% margins year 2 and beyond with a churn rate under 10%.

$AYX, $ZS, $TEAM, $NOW and companies like them.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Ed Bugos March 2019 Newsletter with Reccs:

This is behind a Paywall and I cut down about 20 pages of detailed background info and only included the salient highlights.

TA / US share markets SPX and NDX

Using the Dow Industrials as a proxy we see that the primary bull market trend (i.e., the post 2016 leg) is in
question now that the late last year smackdown took the average, and all the other major averages, below
their last highest primary lows - the ones made in the first quarter of 2018. In the DJIA that level was 23k.
While the longer term 10-year bull market sequence is still in play above the 15.4k (2015-16 low), the break
below last year’s (February) low ended the post-2016 bull leg, which as I mentioned above, was kickstarted by
a pre-Trump liquidity pump in the last half of 2016. It is notable that the long term trend line on the log graph
above approximates the 200-week moving average (i.e., blue line = red line). That probably increases the
significance of the December low at 21.7k as that low seemed to have found support near this area.

As a result, I would suggest that overall bull market support lies between there and the 2015 low, i.e., between
15.3k and 21.7k. At the moment the only thing I can say with confidence, chart wise, is that the three-year
primary leg has ended, and the primary trend is now neutral. Confirmation that we have had a bonafide trend
reversal would at a minimum require a lower low below 21.7k, taking us below the blue line to potentially
confirm a new bearish trend (unlike the situation in 2016 where lower lows never followed).

I’m not sure if we’ll fall all the way to 15k. My bear market outlook is for a 2-3 year downturn that maxes out
at that level, maybe down to 12k at most. I can’t be much more bearish than that because I am looking for a
hyperinflationary response from the Fed on the way down. It could be noted that in the case of the S&P 500
we have touched the 200-week moving average the same as in 2011 and 2016, and that strictly looking at TA,
there’s no reason why the correction couldn’t be over now. However, in our confirmation above, a lower low
in the S&P 500 index (below) would end up piercing the 200-week moving average.

Recommendations:

Ed's March 2019 New Option Strategies
>> Buy to open June 21 (2019) SPY 120 Put at 1-2 cents
>> Buy to open June 21 (2019) QQQ 160 Put at $1.10 or better
>> Buy to open June 21 (2019) FXY 90 Call at $0.25 or better
>> Buy to open June 21 (2019) JNJ 120 Put at $1.00 or better
>> Buy to open June 21 (2019) NKE 65 Put at $0.20 or better
>> Buy to open June 21 (2019) WMT 80 Put at $0.25 or better

Ed tried to time these strategies for as close as possible to when I think the next downturn will begin for US
share markets AND for the US dollar.

In December when we covered most of our last shorts I predicted the stock market would bounce on the collapse in oil prices and sentiment shifts. I was waiting for mid-March as that was the time around which we’d expect the blackout period for share buybacks to start in the tech and
banking sectors where they have been most dominant. I would like to wait out the trade deal and Brexit but
the Fed gave us a good pop in the market, and this is a rally I’m all too happy to sell into.

Our short portfolio still holds swing trading short positions in the shares of the Proshares Ultrashort
QQQ ETF (QID), Microsoft (MSFT), Tesla (TSLA), and GOOG - the latter three were entered in
September - but the options strategies have all been liquidated, mostly at a profit, except for Microsoft puts.

The SPY put is a hail mary far out of the money option strategy that has huge potential upside if there is a
crash or spike in downside volatility all of a sudden, like a black swan type event. I haven’t put out one of
these for a long time but someone reminded me of it, and it seems like a good time for a bet like that.

But keep in mind it is a very high-risk long shot bet, chances are you will lose 100% of that capital.

The $160 puts on the QQQ are more reasonable as they only require a 10-15% decline in the NASDAQ 100 by
June 21st in order to make money for us. We might only make 10 times our money instead of 100, but the
chances are better as there are more possible scenarios that can produce a positive return.

I like shorting JNJ, NKE, and WMT here for a myriad of reasons, but essentially they have had terrible
records of earnings growth over recent years, especially relative to their share multiples, they are very
expensive Dow components, and their charts look weak. In Johnson & Johnson’s (JNJ) case there are issues
related to asbestos in some of their products that aren’t going away. We are adding Walmart as a short
against the US consumer. And Nike seems like it is way overpriced and the market has priced in a trade deal
with China. But I picked these from the Dow Industrials’ ecosphere as part of our macro bet.
 

Australia Sucks

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Deepdiver it seems to be a strange choice to short industrial companies that at least have earnings when there are so many loss making tech companies selling at crazy revenue multiples.
 
If you're considering your real estate options like the real estate crowdfunding, etc. feel free to PM me. I'm in private equity and we're one of the sponsors that typically list with those platforms - so if you want direct access feel free to hit me up. However, this is for 6 figure investments. If it's anything less than 100k it's prob better to stick with one of those platforms.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Australia Sucks said:
Deepdiver it seems to be a strange choice to short industrial companies that at least have earnings when there are so many loss making tech companies selling at crazy revenue multiples.

Ed Bugos has a huge newsletter following and key point is this is basically crash insurance as a large 08/09 correction but larger due to pending currency crisis with most highly indebted governments USA included is a serious risk. This focus on PUTs or inverse ETFs even surprised me a bit. So a good strategy is to stay in at least 50% cash and have plenty on hand when the Markets do go on sale.

The institutional guys will be shorting heavily when the markets retest their ATHs.
 

ChicagoFire

Kingfisher
I listen to the Future Skills podcast hosted by Luvig Sunstrom. I'm about halfway through the catalog and the gist of what he's saying is technology will revolutionize our society.

I say 25% of the content is average (like the physical tools podcast) but the rest is above average or exceptional. The podcast even mentions early entry fields like quantum computing and AI research.
 

joost

Kingfisher
Try Nassim Taleb "Barbell strategy":


I would wait for the 3% interest in cash from Robinhood and keep my money there. Maybe 70% there and the rest in stocks that pay +6%.

If an opportunity arrives, you'll have liquidity/power.

- But when do I know if it's a good opportunity?
If you're in doubt if the price is low, probably it isn't.

If there's another correction, you can use another chunk of your cash to buy assets (stocks).
 

TopPanda

Robin
Currently selling my UK apartment so I can free up more cashflow and become a high net worth individual in about 4 years.

I go for stuff that pays out good dividends. I just love getting dividends, preferably on a monthly basis. My income from this is growing 10% a year (without investing additional capital). It's several years since my investment income overtook my side-hustle income.

I'm mainly in funds but would like to buy more individual stocks and also some investment trusts.

Digital currencies are cooked. I just bought Imperial Brands at a 7.3% yield. Smoking ain't ever going out of fashion.
 

Sidney Crosby

 
Banned
I was listening to the radio the other day and an economist was talking about how he predicts housing will be down over the next decade. The factors he mentioned are the upcoming recession as well as the amount of boomers that are retiring and plan on selling their house and downsizing or moving into some sort of nursing home/assisted living. He mentioned that 40% of the detached homes in Canada and the States are owned by boomers and if you only look at the higher end market the percentage is much higher.

Real estate still seems to be one of the best long term investments though, but if I was in the market to buy anything I'd hold off.
 

joost

Kingfisher
I would run away from real estate. ROI is so low these days. Maybe you can find something worthwhile in Turkey (due to currency crisis). But worldwide you’ll be making 3% a year! It might protect you from inflation but it’s not passive as buying a stock. You have to administer it. Pay for fixes and you won’t have the place rented 100% of the time.

Unless you have a few millions in the bank, I would not put a good portion of my portfolio in a single asset.

The only real estate I would have would be building a 2 (or more) story apartment and rent the (independent) apartments bellow and keep the penthouse for me. So I would have a home without having to worry about property tax since I would be making money from the tenants below. If I don’t like the “neighbors” I could always kick them.
 

godzilla

Pelican
If you're a regular reader here, you are aware of the decline of the West. Some things to think about.

-Obesity

There will likely be more taxes and regulations coming to try to curtail obesity. You're already seeing soda taxes in some major cities. The same thing happened to cigarettes years ago. The largest companies benefit from this. I believe up until 2 or 3 years ago Altria, the owner of Marlboro was the best performing stock in the S&P 500 since 1968. Think Coca Cola, Pepsi might be good.

-Opioid Crisis

Think drugs to help for opioid dependency or marijuana which seems to be better for pain management.

- Homosexuality

The rate of homosexuality is still increasing. You can invest in companies that make drugs for HIV and colon cancer. Gilead is the leader here I believe, probably some experimental treatments as well.

- Automation

Think companies that are helping automate things and simplify things. Cloud computing works here. Think Amazon, Google, and Microsoft.

- Delayed marriage

As people get married later, they will spend their money on other things instead of saving and family. Think about travel, sports, etc. Some companies might be Marriott, Airbnb for example.

-Female consumerism

Harder to predict which companies will succeed here, though as you've seen my APPL stock, finding the next big thing might lead to big gains.
 

Australia Sucks

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Godzilla I have to disagree with you on the part about Pepsi and Coca-Cola being good. There is a structural shift in developed markets away from sodas, etc towards premium/niche products like organic cold pressed juice, kombucha, glacier water, etc. You can see it when you compare sales growth figures for these types of products compared to products like Coca-Cola. While developing markets consumption of sodas, etc are rising this may not be enough to offset the stagnation in developed markets. Furthermore supermarket private label brands are gaining momentum for the working class/price conscious consumer.

As to homosexuality even though what you are saying is true for a company the size of Gilead such drugs are likely to only be a modest portion of sales and it may be difficult to find quality pure plays on the theme.

The rest of your points I largely agree with.
 

godzilla

Pelican
Australia Sucks said:
Godzilla I have to disagree with you on the part about Pepsi and Coca-Cola being good. There is a structural shift in developed markets away from sodas, etc towards premium/niche products like organic cold pressed juice, kombucha, glacier water, etc. You can see it when you compare sales growth figures for these types of products compared to products like Coca-Cola. While developing markets consumption of sodas, etc are rising this may not be enough to offset the stagnation in developed markets. Furthermore supermarket private label brands are gaining momentum for the working class/price conscious consumer.

As to homosexuality even though what you are saying is true for a company the size of Gilead such drugs are likely to only be a modest portion of sales and it may be difficult to find quality pure plays on the theme.

The rest of your points I largely agree with.

You make a good point on the soda thing. Still, I don't see anyone in the bottom 20%-40% or so drinking glacier water of kombucha. Its mostly an upperclass thing and their price points are not competitive at this point. I think whats happening in the drink market is similar to what happened in the beer market where a lot of craft beer took market share from largest piss water beer. However, many craft beers are still far more competitive than say kombucha is to soda.

You are correct on Gilead, They have a large Hep C business that is in decline and it might not be a good investment.

For the record, other than a small amount of money in KO, i have no positions in any of these themes at the moment and I'm merely throwing around ideas for people who read the forum.
 

ChicagoFire

Kingfisher
Re: Real estate

I think you should have some exposure to real estate and I personally have REITs. Like some have said long term real estate is always going to appreciate, one of the reasons being quality land is a scarce resource. My biggest concern with real estate is the rise of socialism, hence why I'm iffy on applying for mortgages. If you invest in something location dependent and the Bolsheviks force you to cede your land that would be quite a loss.

@Swordfish
I suggest listening to the economist Eric Townsend. I think he's right that bitcoin isn't a sustainable currency and he understands how the movement started because of disgust of central banking. One of his arguing points is government can ban crypto and I would argue if they really were threatened by it they would tax crypto.
 
Have to disagree on not investing in Coke. Its a beast and a solid longterm investment.

https://www.coca-colaproductfacts.com/en/products/

Coca-Cola is a monster company they are not just soft-drinks. They have swallowed up a lot of the competition in health drinks, water, juices, protein drinks, sports drinks, iced coffee...

When Warren Buffett owns 9% of Coca-Cola you know its a company that’s gonna be a solid investment over time.
 

Sidney Crosby

 
Banned
Pop sales are down but just wait till they Coke and Pepsi come out with some CBD drinks, the stuff will probably fly off the shelves, at least for a while.
 

trickster

 
Banned
A great investment is buying whole life life insurance policies from people that need the cash surrender values from the policies. They need to be in bad health and have a short life expectancy. Offer more than the cash surrender value of the policies. It's a win-win for everyone.
 
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