What Will 2023 Bring?

Monty_Brogan

Woodpecker
Gold Member
I am optimistic. No particular hard evidence. Everyone I know seems to be feeling optimistic too. There's a general atmosphere / feeling out there (at least within my own experience). Covid 19 is well and truly over. I think it'll be like a spring bouncing back: maybe a big economic boom.

I don't see any optimism. Hope I'm wrong.
 
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rainy

Pelican
Other Christian
Middle class will be hit hardest with continuing economic decline, both by more inflation and coming layoffs(as stated earlier in thread).

Many of those jobs will not return when economy slowly recovers in 2024. Just as with COVID companies will adapt to smaller domestic workforce and change their model with technology and global outsourcing at half the cost.

Crime will increase. More frequent and violent in cities. Theft, home robbery will rise in burbs.

Healthcare system will continue it’s slow collapse due to old/sick boomers, vax side effects and nursing shortages from lockdowns and jab mandates(nurses never returned).

I’ll keep stressing, create wifi money. What will start as a side hustle could be your escape hatch in three years.
 
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analyst_green

Sparrow
Other Christian


I think we are on the verge of transformation, the old guard will come down and something new will replace it, for better or worse. I don't think this will happen in 2023, but I think financial and social turmoil will continue to fester and worsen next year.

The main point of the video is that some historians believe civilization is composed of saecula that last roughly 80 years each, divided into four turnings of around 20 years each with their own characteristics. And at the end of each saeculum, there is a monumental event, often very violent. The last three terminated with the American Revolution, the War Between the States, and WW2. Well we're nearing the end of the fourth turning right now, so get ready for something big. If it happens in 2023 I think it will have something to do with this Ukraine situation, which has me feeling very uneasy. In 2024 I could see it also due to the presidential election.

What really shocked me was the comments on Youtube. I thought I was alone, but so many feel this way. Things are just weird now. I don't feel like the world is a relaxed and open place like just 5-10 years ago. Ever since Trump's election, and then the plandemic and now this war. The social fabric has been completely torn apart and we're in a state of constant unease. I just want whatever's going to hit us to hit so I can get on with my life. Civil war and secession? Nuclear destruction? The Great Reset? Total financial meltdown and a new crypto-economy? If it can't be averted, bring it on so I can stop worrying.
 

Chiosboy90

Woodpecker


I think we are on the verge of transformation, the old guard will come down and something new will replace it, for better or worse. I don't think this will happen in 2023, but I think financial and social turmoil will continue to fester and worsen next year.

The main point of the video is that some historians believe civilization is composed of saecula that last roughly 80 years each, divided into four turnings of around 20 years each with their own characteristics. And at the end of each saeculum, there is a monumental event, often very violent. The last three terminated with the American Revolution, the War Between the States, and WW2. Well we're nearing the end of the fourth turning right now, so get ready for something big. If it happens in 2023 I think it will have something to do with this Ukraine situation, which has me feeling very uneasy. In 2024 I could see it also due to the presidential election.

What really shocked me was the comments on Youtube. I thought I was alone, but so many feel this way. Things are just weird now. I don't feel like the world is a relaxed and open place like just 5-10 years ago. Ever since Trump's election, and then the plandemic and now this war. The social fabric has been completely torn apart and we're in a state of constant unease. I just want whatever's going to hit us to hit so I can get on with my life. Civil war and secession? Nuclear destruction? The Great Reset? Total financial meltdown and a new crypto-economy? If it can't be averted, bring it on so I can stop worrying.

I have the same feeling. Could be the devil playing tricks with me (us) but I have pretty good survival senses and I do feel like we are in a one way clown train into something very big. Reason why Im since 6 month buy each month a bit of survival food/gear before its too late. I just feel sad about my daughter and other children that they need to experience this. Personaly I welcome very much some big hit and hope we will build a new world/country with it (hopefuly a Christian one) because I cant handle the filth anymore around me. The last 5 years feels like having big teeth pain and I prefer go to the dentist now and pick out the rotten teeth and get over with than waing in this limbo world right now. Then again as a family man, I wish we would find a peacful solution because my wife and daughter would be very much traumatised from a world war (or whatever else we have to face it).
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
I'll be embracing the calamity. I look forward to it.
One thing is certain - God is coming back.
As times get tough people start to listen again.

You would be stupid to bullet point predictions, unless you had a real word of knowledge. And people with that spiritual gift don't bullet point it on Twitter.

With hardship people are shocked into reality. Much of the population has been cruising along in a state of deception. But it all falls down soon.

In pop culture Elon and Andrew Tate are talking about false gods which is a problem. Elon is Mr. simulation and Tate is the Mr. matrix (which is the same actually). But I'm still glad. I'm glad because we surpassed the idiotic year 2000 level atheism where you can read the tea leaves of the rock strata to desperately deduce Gods non existence. We've moved up one dimension.

Thanks to Joe Rogan too? Go visit the machine elves maaan. Also thanks to JBP for doing that biblical series.

Here's my prediction - Tristan and Andrew Tate will have the eyes of the world in 2023. Their story is playing out now and we will watch as the strongest brotherly bond will be broken with Tristan following Christ and Andrew following Satan. Andrew will become increasingly wealthy while Tristian will simmer down. The world will glorify Andrew while Tristan will have a smaller core following. Tristian will hang in for as long as he can but eventually will let his brother go.
 

Bizet

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Biden steps down as president (for health reasons) and Kamala takes over.

I've always said that the higher up's plan was for Biden to serve the first two years, and Kamala to serve our the second two.

I'm also expecting them to pull out all the stops to prevent Trump from running again. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an assassination attempt on him.
 
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Hermetic Seal

Pelican
Orthodox
Gold Member
My prediction: the frog continues to slowly boil. There will be no collapse, nor serious threat to the regime ruling the west. The economy and outlook for the average person will continue to descend, but gradually, not enough to cause serious discomfort that might stoke actual revolutionary impulses, at least not in the US.

Russia and Ukraine will be locked in a dour stalemate with both sides perpetually convinced victory is imminent, but in fact the war will drag on indefinitely with no real change in status quo. Europe will feel the effects of this, but Americans won't, because the elites will insulate us from it. Look at the gas price situation earlier this year - people were getting upset about paying more at the pump, so the powers that be manipulated things to drop prices back down. Can't have the American populace getting too uppity now, can we? Expect more of this. And more socio-cultural brainwashing with increased insane propaganda. Of course, this is the easiest and most reliable prediction of all.

More people will continue to awaken to the truth of things, but it won’t practically affect much. Complaining on the Internet about how the world seems to be falling apart may be cathartic, but we've been doing it for a long time now and it's not changing anything. The reason why we can still speak here and these kinds of venues haven't been shut down a long time ago is because if we have an "outlet" like this for grumbling about the degenerate state of the world, we're less likely to actually do anything about it. Not that I'm any better, aside from raising my family, I hardly know where to start with such a thing.

I don't think we'll see another incident of medical tyranny yet. We will see more chronic issues, lowered birth rates, and random deaths as a result of the Covid injections, but projections of massive numbers of the injected dropping dead all of a sudden clearly aren't happening and the catastrophic predictions of critics of the injections were overblown. There will be various pushes for booster shots and such, but otherwise, not much movement here. I think it'll be a few more years before the next big push for vaccine passports and increased controls restricting dissidents from working, buying, speaking publicly.

We may see an increase in climate change propaganda, which could be used to push the agenda forward. It'll be interesting to see if there's any meaningful revolt against this, as it seems possible depending on how hard they push. Otherwise, I suspect 2023 will be somewhat understated and a consolidation of the Globohomo status quo with no meaningful political or social victories for our "side."

On the other hand, I think the outlook for Orthodoxy in the West is positive and think we'll see more growth as Christians continue to grow disillusioned with the shallowness of evangelicalism and continued ecclesiastical turbulence of Rome. However, expect to see Orthodox Christians become acceptable targets for persecution as the media ramps up associating us with Big Bad Putin.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
Those are all pretty far out. I bet more than one happens in the next 10 years, but they are pretty spicy picks for 2023.
I dont see Texas Succeeding again, and I dont think the Federal Government will allow it if so. ..

My prediction: the frog continues to slowly boil. There will be no collapse, nor serious threat to the regime ruling the west. The economy and outlook for the average person will continue to descend, but gradually, not enough to cause serious discomfort that might stoke actual revolutionary impulses, at least not in the US.

Russia and Ukraine will be locked in a dour stalemate with both sides perpetually convinced victory is imminent, but in fact the war will drag on indefinitely with no real change in status quo. Europe will feel the effects of this, but Americans won't, because the elites will insulate us from it. Look at the gas price situation earlier this year - people were getting upset about paying more at the pump, so the powers that be manipulated things to drop prices back down. Can't have the American populace getting too uppity now, can we? Expect more of this. And more socio-cultural brainwashing with increased insane propaganda. Of course, this is the easiest and most reliable prediction of all.

More people will continue to awaken to the truth of things, but it won’t practically affect much. Complaining on the Internet about how the world seems to be falling apart may be cathartic, but we've been doing it for a long time now and it's not changing anything. The reason why we can still speak here and these kinds of venues haven't been shut down a long time ago is because if we have an "outlet" like this for grumbling about the degenerate state of the world, we're less likely to actually do anything about it. Not that I'm any better, aside from raising my family, I hardly know where to start with such a thing.

I don't think we'll see another incident of medical tyranny yet. We will see more chronic issues, lowered birth rates, and random deaths as a result of the Covid injections, but projections of massive numbers of the injected dropping dead all of a sudden clearly aren't happening and the catastrophic predictions of critics of the injections were overblown. There will be various pushes for booster shots and such, but otherwise, not much movement here. I think it'll be a few more years before the next big push for vaccine passports and increased controls restricting dissidents from working, buying, speaking publicly.

We may see an increase in climate change propaganda, which could be used to push the agenda forward. It'll be interesting to see if there's any meaningful revolt against this, as it seems possible depending on how hard they push. Otherwise, I suspect 2023 will be somewhat understated and a consolidation of the Globohomo status quo with no meaningful political or social victories for our "side."

On the other hand, I think the outlook for Orthodoxy in the West is positive and think we'll see more growth as Christians continue to grow disillusioned with the shallowness of evangelicalism and continued ecclesiastical turbulence of Rome. However, expect to see Orthodox Christians become acceptable targets for persecution as the media ramps up associating us with Big Bad Putin.
Yep this is about my general sentiment also.

No major collapses or events described by Medvedev, but nothing astoundingly good either.

Will just continue to work and acquire resources, continue having babies (got one due in June) and continue to improve my life circumstances materially, but more importantly, spiritually.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I am optimistic. No particular hard evidence. Everyone I know seems to be feeling optimistic too. There's a general atmosphere / feeling out there (at least within my own experience). Covid 19 is well and truly over. I think it'll be like a spring bouncing back: maybe a big economic boom.
Consumer sentiment says the opposite, and the pain isn't even here yet. Who do you know/around that think the economic outlook is good. I know no one, even a few leftists, who don't realize the economy is in trouble.

 
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Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
We will see more chronic issues, lowered birth rates, and random deaths as a result of the Covid injections, but projections of massive numbers of the injected dropping dead all of a sudden clearly aren't happening and the catastrophic predictions of critics of the injections were overblown.
I agree that in general, slow degradation fits better, but there are reasons to believe that there is a 2 year grace period on the mRNA therapies and then all hell breaks loose. This was reported by a guy on tiktok (maybe late 20s, early 30s?) who was fielding questions about a therapy he received in 2013 for an autoimmune disease. I can guess (likely right) that he had inflammatory bowel disease. He reported that 2 years they got great results, then in year 3 nearly all the people got myocarditis, sudden cardiac events, strokes, and death markedly increased. He says 200k people were included in the study and now just 5 live, he being 1 of them. He's had 3 strokes, had a partial colectomy, and had a chest scar / sternotomy that he showed in the video.

Of all the doom and gloom, apart from world war III, I think the jab-related incidents and deaths are easily the most likely. The elites will be more than happy to keep the fake monetary/financial system going when all the older demographics slowly "die." Either way though, the economy will be unlike anything we've enjoyed in the last 40 years, for at least a decade or two.
 

darknavigator

Woodpecker
Catholic
Some country (more than likely in Europe) will introduce the unearned basic income (UBI) for all adult citizens. In Ireland they've already begun a three year pilot scheme (2022 - 2025) for people working in the creative arts. Academic papers in Ireland have also recommended that the Irish government roll out this program to all citizens in order to reduce the "stigma" of being on social welfare.
 

Northumber

Sparrow
Protestant
We will see more chronic issues, lowered birth rates, and random deaths as a result of the Covid injections, but projections of massive numbers of the injected dropping dead all of a sudden clearly aren't happening and the catastrophic predictions of critics of the injections were overblown.

I agree with the general arc of your post; it is only the quoted part above where I have a slight disagreement. At this point the media and governing bodies are in near complete control. They create reality. I believe we are at catastrophic levels of people dropping dead but all levels of society are in such a deluded state that it is difficult to perceive true reality. There was basically near zero actual threat from "the virus" yet they (and a deluded society participating in a manufactured reality) made it seem like there was a "pandemic".
 

Hermetic Seal

Pelican
Orthodox
Gold Member
I agree with the general arc of your post; it is only the quoted part above where I have a slight disagreement. At this point the media and governing bodies are in near complete control. They create reality. I believe we are at catastrophic levels of people dropping dead but all levels of society are in such a deluded state that it is difficult to perceive true reality. There was basically near zero actual threat from "the virus" yet they (and a deluded society participating in a manufactured reality) made it seem like there was a "pandemic".

I really want to believe everyone is going to wake up to what an awful idea it was getting the covid shots, but considering that almost everyone I know (outside of my Orthodox parish) got it and I don't know of anyone who's had any adverse effects, aside from immediately getting sick from the shots and maybe greater susceptibility to illness than before, I feel like I can dismiss the notion that there's going to be some dramatic mass death event - unless a future "pandemic" intentionally triggers this event in people who've been immunocompromised by the covid shots. I do think that's a possibility.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
I really want to believe everyone is going to wake up to what an awful idea it was getting the covid shots, but considering that almost everyone I know (outside of my Orthodox parish) got it and I don't know of anyone who's had any adverse effects, aside from immediately getting sick from the shots and maybe greater susceptibility to illness than before, I feel like I can dismiss the notion that there's going to be some dramatic mass death event - unless a future "pandemic" intentionally triggers this event in people who've been immunocompromised by the covid shots. I do think that's a possibility.
People don't have any clue about how the world works. They don't even know what a man or a woman is, nor are they interested in knowing. All they care about are short term material comforts. They'll attack you if you try to show them how any truth of the system really works, like the protagonist in Plato's cave allegory.
 

God's lonely asperger

Woodpecker
Protestant
Daily stories about gentiles (particularly black Americans) falling in love with jewish people, culture, etc. A hasbara tsunami, essentially.

It's the only thing that we can be 100% certain of.
Jews hate when you racemix, but only when it happens to them.
 
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