What's more valuable? College or military education?
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Akula said:
It depends on your defintion of nirvana. For some people, working 60 or 70 hours a week is that and then getting laid off is that.
Government generally won't ask you for that. It gives you stability and good benefits.
I'd like to think that taking the red pill also means not being enough of a sucker to work all the time, unless you are working to build your own business. That's the only time it pays off.
Also, here's a good video on how companies place fake job ads with no intention of hiring American citizens. Law firms advise companies on how to do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
"...our goal is clearly not to find a qualified US worker..."
Don't succumb to the allure of a "steady paycheck," this is how they get you.
Everything that a recruiter tells you is probably the 1% of what you actually will be doing in your job. If you actually get what they say you will get. Which is another matter all in of itself because it is not beyond recruiters to say things that are technically true but in no way shape in form enforceable. Unless you have a side scheme or insider, don't do it. Military just ain't what it used to be, if it ever was. Plus all the shit they talk about employers preferring military vets is 1000% bobkus.
Source: 8 years active Army.
Everything that a recruiter tells you is probably the 1% of what you actually will be doing in your job. If you actually get what they say you will get. Which is another matter all in of itself because it is not beyond recruiters to say things that are technically true but in no way shape in form enforceable. Unless you have a side scheme or insider, don't do it. Military just ain't what it used to be, if it ever was. Plus all the shit they talk about employers preferring military vets is 1000% bobkus.
Source: 8 years active Army.
^^^Agreed. No one cares if you're a veteran. Just a PR scheme.
To add, unless you go into a profession in the military that is obviously transferable in to the civilian world (eg Air traffic controller, IT tech, electrician), expect to start off working as a manager at your local supermarket when you get out. I personally know too many cats that this happened to.
To add, unless you go into a profession in the military that is obviously transferable in to the civilian world (eg Air traffic controller, IT tech, electrician), expect to start off working as a manager at your local supermarket when you get out. I personally know too many cats that this happened to.
Don't join a branch of service unless you are going to go "all in" as Danger & Play puts it.
That means going for an elite unit. Seals, SF, Rangers, Recon.
Those guys receive the best training, best equipment, relaxed grooming standards, civilian dress, and don't have to deal with much of the bullshit and menial labor that's heaped on regular servicemembers.
That means going for an elite unit. Seals, SF, Rangers, Recon.
Those guys receive the best training, best equipment, relaxed grooming standards, civilian dress, and don't have to deal with much of the bullshit and menial labor that's heaped on regular servicemembers.
PoosyWrecker said:
Don't enlist for a pogue (support) job.
Waste of time.
Especially now as the military returns to garrison life.
Unless you are buried under student loan debt, just don't. No guarantee of doing your job. Although you are guaranteed to clean and do menial labor.
To me, it's simple. This may be a reiteration on what I wrote before but to emphasize:
1. What background do you have and will the military help you just a bit or A LOT.
2. What the heck will you do with that military skill AFTER you get out.
This post of mine seems still relevant in that sense even though just a bit restricted to my enlisted experience: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-29908-post-707498.html#pid707498
People think that they can do 4 - 8 years, get out and they will have the skills to take over the world.
While the military can give you some very top notch skills, this is NOT always true as the civilian world categorizes and sees skills in a significantly different light than the military.
1. What background do you have and will the military help you just a bit or A LOT.
2. What the heck will you do with that military skill AFTER you get out.
This post of mine seems still relevant in that sense even though just a bit restricted to my enlisted experience: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-29908-post-707498.html#pid707498
People think that they can do 4 - 8 years, get out and they will have the skills to take over the world.
While the military can give you some very top notch skills, this is NOT always true as the civilian world categorizes and sees skills in a significantly different light than the military.
You know who make more than officers when they get out. Electronics Technicians from the military. Those guys are so hard to come by in the oil field they make bank. AND DONT DO SHIT!! atleast in my field. Highly recommend this MOS.
THe MOS in the army is 94M.
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