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<blockquote data-quote="DamienCasanova" data-source="post: 171001" data-attributes="member: 9694"><p>Our women are the most masculine in the world, YAY!</p><p></p><p>This is kind of a complicated issue actually, not quite as straight forward as NBA = WNBA. The men's World Cup started like a hundred years ago, and has involvement from practically every country in the world at this point and is the single largest sporting event in every country in the world every 4 years. The women's world cup only started in 1991, and the US has been the most dominant national team in women's soccer since then, along with Germany & Japan and a few other countries that usually do well like Sweden, or Australia. But only a handful of countries even have women's soccer teams worldwide, vs virtually every nation having a men's team. SO the pool of potential viewers is much smaller worldwide for women's soccer than for men's soccer. Basically women's soccer does much better with viewers in the US than anywhere else in the world, largely because we are the best at it. So there is also a much smaller pool of money worldwide to finance it, because of so much less competition, therefore the prize money is also smaller.</p><p></p><p>A lot of this shit has to do with Title IX laws here also, artificially boosting our women's sports productivity</p><p><a href="http://www.voanews.com/content/us-womens-and-mens-soccer-a-world-cup-of-difference/2856121.html" target="_blank">http://www.voanews.com/content/us-womens-and-mens-soccer-a-world-cup-of-difference/2856121.html</a></p><p></p><p>"In terms of the women's game, Goff and Quraishi agree that the United States has made a commitment toward the success of women's sports, including soccer, that goes far beyond what many other countries have done.</p><p></p><p>A centerpiece of that commitment is Title IX, the U.S. federal law passed more than 40 years ago that prohibits discrimination on the basis of gender in any federally funded education program. Title IX forced universities to invest in women's sports, and soccer benefited tremendously from funding created under the law, according to Quraishi.</p><p></p><p>"And I think what we see with the women is the U.S. was one of the first countries to really establish a strong tradition of women playing soccer and to put the programs in place," Quraishi said. "I think college soccer had a lot to do with it. We had a feeder system from the very beginning. [College] teams like North Carolina, UCLA have been providing talented players to the national team for decades now.""</p><p></p><p></p><p>So yeah, the American Women are much better compared to the Men at their success on the field, but that's only because of a more limited field of competitors, a head start in historical experience , and a disproportionate amount of investment comparatively. </p><p></p><p>If American Women wanted to be paid as much as Men, they need to not lobby the US Soccer federation to pay them more...they should be looking to grow the Women's game worldwide and expand it into more countries so they could grow their financial base. They would need to try and start more women's leagues (once again, after failing multiple times) locally and internationally and see if that could show any sustained and permanent growth over long periods like the Men's leagues internationally, and not just be a seasonal viewing experience as it is now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DamienCasanova, post: 171001, member: 9694"] Our women are the most masculine in the world, YAY! This is kind of a complicated issue actually, not quite as straight forward as NBA = WNBA. The men's World Cup started like a hundred years ago, and has involvement from practically every country in the world at this point and is the single largest sporting event in every country in the world every 4 years. The women's world cup only started in 1991, and the US has been the most dominant national team in women's soccer since then, along with Germany & Japan and a few other countries that usually do well like Sweden, or Australia. But only a handful of countries even have women's soccer teams worldwide, vs virtually every nation having a men's team. SO the pool of potential viewers is much smaller worldwide for women's soccer than for men's soccer. Basically women's soccer does much better with viewers in the US than anywhere else in the world, largely because we are the best at it. So there is also a much smaller pool of money worldwide to finance it, because of so much less competition, therefore the prize money is also smaller. A lot of this shit has to do with Title IX laws here also, artificially boosting our women's sports productivity [URL]http://www.voanews.com/content/us-womens-and-mens-soccer-a-world-cup-of-difference/2856121.html[/URL] "In terms of the women's game, Goff and Quraishi agree that the United States has made a commitment toward the success of women's sports, including soccer, that goes far beyond what many other countries have done. A centerpiece of that commitment is Title IX, the U.S. federal law passed more than 40 years ago that prohibits discrimination on the basis of gender in any federally funded education program. Title IX forced universities to invest in women's sports, and soccer benefited tremendously from funding created under the law, according to Quraishi. "And I think what we see with the women is the U.S. was one of the first countries to really establish a strong tradition of women playing soccer and to put the programs in place," Quraishi said. "I think college soccer had a lot to do with it. We had a feeder system from the very beginning. [College] teams like North Carolina, UCLA have been providing talented players to the national team for decades now."" So yeah, the American Women are much better compared to the Men at their success on the field, but that's only because of a more limited field of competitors, a head start in historical experience , and a disproportionate amount of investment comparatively. If American Women wanted to be paid as much as Men, they need to not lobby the US Soccer federation to pay them more...they should be looking to grow the Women's game worldwide and expand it into more countries so they could grow their financial base. They would need to try and start more women's leagues (once again, after failing multiple times) locally and internationally and see if that could show any sustained and permanent growth over long periods like the Men's leagues internationally, and not just be a seasonal viewing experience as it is now. [/QUOTE]
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