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<blockquote data-quote="TravelerKai" data-source="post: 1200319" data-attributes="member: 7561"><p>Haven't read the entire thread, but I had a somewhat bad experience with one. When I worked for Kroger (a grocery store chain) as a very young man as one of my first jobs, I was relegated to bagging groceries when I wanted to be a cashier. Alot of that had to do with the union. Seemed race driven at the time, but I quickly figured out that it was more gender and union driven. Made me salty as fuck even though I was a diehard Democrat at the time. It made me privately cheer on Republicans anytime they tried to bust up unions. I was part time too because I was going to school at the time, but the member dues were too much money for me to pay. At that time, that was gas money EASY. </p><p></p><p>As I got older that experience never let me support anything union. Relatives that were in Teachers Union seemed to get more out of their dues than when I was a store worker, but even then I could see where they were losing out and their messages drowned out. </p><p></p><p>If you study Italian mob/mafia crime history, especially in Chicago and New York, you can see how easy it was for unions to get subverted with bad people. Money does not always ruin them, but it usually ends that way. </p><p></p><p>When you think about it on a ideological viewpoint, unions are very anti-capitalistic, and make no sense in private industries. Unions to me personally made sense in a world with lesser technology, safety regulations, and pay discrimination. Like many liberal causes today, it has an outdated feel now. We have the EEOC, OSHA, SOX, and too many other regulatory bodies now that used to be the role of a union. </p><p></p><p>I think unions are for a developing nation, not so much a nation with a whole host of laws and regulations on the books.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TravelerKai, post: 1200319, member: 7561"] Haven't read the entire thread, but I had a somewhat bad experience with one. When I worked for Kroger (a grocery store chain) as a very young man as one of my first jobs, I was relegated to bagging groceries when I wanted to be a cashier. Alot of that had to do with the union. Seemed race driven at the time, but I quickly figured out that it was more gender and union driven. Made me salty as fuck even though I was a diehard Democrat at the time. It made me privately cheer on Republicans anytime they tried to bust up unions. I was part time too because I was going to school at the time, but the member dues were too much money for me to pay. At that time, that was gas money EASY. As I got older that experience never let me support anything union. Relatives that were in Teachers Union seemed to get more out of their dues than when I was a store worker, but even then I could see where they were losing out and their messages drowned out. If you study Italian mob/mafia crime history, especially in Chicago and New York, you can see how easy it was for unions to get subverted with bad people. Money does not always ruin them, but it usually ends that way. When you think about it on a ideological viewpoint, unions are very anti-capitalistic, and make no sense in private industries. Unions to me personally made sense in a world with lesser technology, safety regulations, and pay discrimination. Like many liberal causes today, it has an outdated feel now. We have the EEOC, OSHA, SOX, and too many other regulatory bodies now that used to be the role of a union. I think unions are for a developing nation, not so much a nation with a whole host of laws and regulations on the books. [/QUOTE]
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