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<blockquote data-quote="debeguiled" data-source="post: 1200331" data-attributes="member: 7867">It seems to me like most institutions today have been twisted from their original purposes and would be unrecognizable to their founders, and this probably includes most unions, unfortunately.As for teachers and what they teach about unions and the history of labor, I sometimes forget that I am a lot older than most forum members, and what applied when I was going to school doesn't apply anymore.When I was in high school, no one had even heard of &quot;A People's History of the United States,&quot; and even later, when I was in my thirties, trying to research the history of the labor movement, in '93, this was still before the internet, and I had an entire University library to browse, and I only found a couple books about unions and their history.I wasn't even conspiracy minded, or learned in geo-politics at the time, but it was fucking weird that it was so hard to find anything about labor that looked at things from the point of view of the workers.Meanwhile, everyone had an opinion about unions, and it was all along the lines of how lazy, corrupt, inefficient, anti-American they were. Same type of jokes you would hear from comedians on tv.And no one said a word about how corporations work, how they will screw their workers if they can, not even from human evil, but just the pressure of shareholders on a CEO to keep being more profitable.It would be interesting to hear what people have been taught in schools about unions.I can't imagine how any union could escape corruption today, not to mention identity politics, feminism, etc..</blockquote>

[QUOTE="debeguiled, post: 1200331, member: 7867"] It seems to me like most institutions today have been twisted from their original purposes and would be unrecognizable to their founders, and this probably includes most unions, unfortunately. As for teachers and what they teach about unions and the history of labor, I sometimes forget that I am a lot older than most forum members, and what applied when I was going to school doesn't apply anymore. When I was in high school, no one had even heard of "A People's History of the United States," and even later, when I was in my thirties, trying to research the history of the labor movement, in '93, this was still before the internet, and I had an entire University library to browse, and I only found a couple books about unions and their history. I wasn't even conspiracy minded, or learned in geo-politics at the time, but it was fucking weird that it was so hard to find anything about labor that looked at things from the point of view of the workers. Meanwhile, everyone had an opinion about unions, and it was all along the lines of how lazy, corrupt, inefficient, anti-American they were. Same type of jokes you would hear from comedians on tv. And no one said a word about how corporations work, how they will screw their workers if they can, not even from human evil, but just the pressure of shareholders on a CEO to keep being more profitable. It would be interesting to hear what people have been taught in schools about unions. I can't imagine how any union could escape corruption today, not to mention identity politics, feminism, etc.. [/QUOTE]

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