When did you get redpilled on WW2?

[It_is_my_time]

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We are lied to so much about WW2 in the west, it is remarkable. I am listening to a podcast now and one of the hosts studied Russian in college and has visited Russia. And he said Russians are proud of their WW2 victory but have a lot more respect and honest opinion of what Germany was most in the USA do, simply because the lies and propaganda is not pushed over there nearly as hard.

We are lied to about Jesse Owens in that he "embarrassed the third reich" when instead Jesse Owens felt more at home in Germany because he was treated as an equal there and Hitler met and shook hands with Jesse Owens. All the way to the fact the Axis power was by far the most diverse fighting force the world had seen. Whether it was Europeans (Nordics and Meds), Slavic people, Middle Easterners, Indians or Africans fighting for the Axis, while the west was heavily segregated and had racial issues behind the lines in arguments and crime after the war.

 

[GuitarVH]

We are lied to so much about WW2 in the west, it is remarkable. I am listening to a podcast now and one of the hosts studied Russian in college and has visited Russia. And he said Russians are proud of their WW2 victory but have a lot more respect and honest opinion of what Germany was most in the USA do, simply because the lies and propaganda is not pushed over there nearly as hard.

We are lied to about Jesse Owens in that he "embarrassed the third reich" when instead Jesse Owens felt more at home in Germany because he was treated as an equal there and Hitler met and shook hands with Jesse Owens. All the way to the fact the Axis power was by far the most diverse fighting force the world had seen. Whether it was Europeans (Nordics and Meds), Slavic people, Middle Easterners, Indians or Africans fighting for the Axis, while the west was heavily segregated and had racial issues behind the lines in arguments and crime after the war.

Ha, I know exactly what podcast you're talking about, I listened to the same one a few days ago. I like the 4-5 hour marathon discussions. Very informative.

 

[doodydota]

guys, drop your links please

 

[GuitarVH]

guys, drop your links please

Topics covered include:

- The Darrell Brooks trial & the widening gap between law and justice in America
- The latest developments in the ongoing Jewish cancelation of Ye, and how he could fight back
- Greg Conte’s perspectives on the Russia-Ukraine war
- Reasoning behind “Prussian Socialism” & why we shouldn’t cede liberal arts and humanities to the Left
- German spirit, rather than German blood, as the counter to Western judeo-capitalism

 

[MusicForThePiano]

 

[TCOCBR18]

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If you read the portion of the newspaper article that is visible in this image, you can see it say that Hitler was directing the country to embrace "Positive Christianity".
The Nazi German Positive Christianity ideology was not anything resembling Traditional Christianity. This was an attempt by the Nazi movement to take over Christianity and use it for their ideological purposes. The leaders of the Positive Christianity movement emphatically and expressly rejected Christianity as it existed at the time and wanted it redesigned in harmony with Nazi ideology. I urge you all to read about Positive Christianity and you should be able to see very quickly that that had nothing to do with traditional Christian faith. It was a political project, basically like liberal protestant denominations that are Christian exclusively to try to make Christianity agree with progressive values.
That being said, I do agree with the general spirit of this thread, that the modern West is simply incapable of interpreting a historical character like Hitler due to the impenetrable ideological wall they have built against reasonably discussing World War II and its complexities.

 

[MusicForThePiano]

More details on the Economics of Germany post WWI:

 

[FisherOfMen]

I didn't read the whole thread yet, but I had two incidents that broke down the whole WW1/WW2 narrative for me:

1. Turns out there WERE armaments on the Lusitania, meaning WW1 was also a sham (which segues directly into WW2 being a sham)
2. Only the soviets found "death camps." I wouldn't believe a communist if he told me the sky was up.

 

[God's lonely asperger]

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Hitler's worst mistake and probably the reason he lost was because of his abandonment of God during the later years of WW2.

 

[fokm]

Hitler's worst mistake and probably the reason he lost was because of his abandonment of God during the later years of WW2.

How, specifically, did Hitler abandon God? Hitler respected Christianity but did not think religion and government should be mixed too much.

I think it was more supply line logistics, the US getting pulled into the war, Churchill not allowing England and Germany to ally, and instead eventually allying with Russia, who had a huge population and a great ability to churn out soldiers and tanks. The lack of access to oil and gas towards the end of WWII really hurt.

I also think Hitler did spread his army way too thin.

 

[It_is_my_time]

How, specifically, did Hitler abandon God? Hitler respected Christianity but did not think religion and government should be mixed too much.

I think it was more supply line logistics, the US getting pulled into the war, Churchill not allowing England and Germany to ally, and instead eventually allying with Russia, who had a huge population and a great ability to churn out soldiers and tanks. The lack of access to oil and gas towards the end of WWII really hurt.

I also think Hitler did spread his army way too thin.

I don't remember where I heard this, but it is ingrained in my memory from a few years back. I can't remember if it was a direct quote from Von Braun, or a paraphrase from a man that knew him, but it went like this...

Van Braun's last meeting with Hitler, Hitler apologized to him for not putting more effort and time into rocket technology and he can see by not doing so that it was the biggest mistake he made.

Had their rockets been more advanced, maybe only a few months more, they might have won the war with this incomparable technology at the time. Reading up on Hitler, my thoughts on him are that...

#1) He was an extraordinary man. A man who was injured in battle twice and was so upset to not get to return to the battlefield to keep fighting. He had an extra gear in him most men did not have.

#2) Because of #1, he believed if he could restore the pride of the German people they could all have this extra gear. And that maybe true, but it takes more than an extra gear in your soldiers to beat three global empires at the same time. So, Hitler was focused on the old way of being tough and brave and not enough on the real path to victory in modern war, which is technology.

I don't know of Hitler rejecting Christianity at all. I do know they rebuilt over 1,000 churches when they freed the Slavs from the Bolsheviks across Eastern Europe but at same time, they have Muslim Waffen-SS members. So his beliefs on religion not being too intertwined with govt. seems very believable. Much like our founding fathers, which I have also read Hitler admired in what they accomplished.

 

[grenade001]

Hitler's worst mistake and probably the reason he lost was because of his abandonment of God during the later years of WW2.

I don't believe that Hilter necessarily abandoned God. There were clear denominational divides in the different regions of Germany between Protestants and Catholics, so it was pragmatic for Hitler to not look to favour one over another.

 

[LothropStoddard]

When I visited Treblinka. The contrast between alleged pyres and diesel exhaust killing chambers that killed a million.

And the proof, a leftist archeologist with support of Jews found like 20 graves with all modern technologies.

Finding Treblinka Project

This ongoing research project aims to use innovative forensic archaeological techniques to investigate the former Nazi extermination and labour camps at Treblinka. Over the last twelve years, the team have devised new methodologies that account for the ethical and religious sensitivities...

www.staffs.ac.uk

And what I saw myself, part a working camp, part transport. All very normal.

The lie is of a grandiose proportion. And that got me thinking. And other lies, like why were millions of English boys sacrificed in WW1 in Belgian trenches? Boys that never said foot on the continent.

The population has been abused for generations and generations, and is today as we can see. I had to turn everything around in life. Because if you start uncovering, i realized my whole life was built on Jewish lies.

I once visited Dachau. What struck me right away is that the tiny ovens, small in both capacity and in number, seemed completely ill-equipped to have incinerated such scores of people.

 

[Pete345]

I once visited Dachau. What struck me right away is that the tiny ovens, small in both capacity and in number, seemed completely ill-equipped to have incinerated such scores of people.

I've been to something like 6 "concentration camps" and they all struck me as being at least partially propaganda props. How much truth vs. fiction is intertwined in their history, we will probably never know. I have no interest in ever visiting another one again, because I just know too much now in my older years. In the same vein, I don't want to visit sites from our US Founding Fathers history, either. It all borders on worshipping our statesmen and flag. Glory only to God!

 

[God's lonely asperger]

How, specifically, did Hitler abandon God? Hitler respected Christianity but did not think religion and government should be mixed too much.

I think it was more supply line logistics, the US getting pulled into the war, Churchill not allowing England and Germany to ally, and instead eventually allying with Russia, who had a huge population and a great ability to churn out soldiers and tanks. The lack of access to oil and gas towards the end of WWII really hurt.

I also think Hitler did spread his army way too thin.

I meant more as in not believing in Him.
Also, yeah, it was also about his decisions but I believe he could have won if he had God on his side.

 

[fokm]

I meant more as in not believing in Him.
Also, yeah, it was also about his decisions but I believe he could have won if he had God on his side.

Hitler believed in God. If you have proof showing otherwise, do share.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Hitler believed in God. If you have proof showing otherwise, do share.

Or better yet, was God on the side of the satanic Bolsheviks and satanic people like Henry Morgenthau Jr.? I do not believe that he was on the allies side either.

 

[God's lonely asperger]

Hitler believed in God. If you have proof showing otherwise, do share.

I can't find it again but I've heard a quote from him saying that people stopped caring about Christianity and that he also stopped following it.

 

[God's lonely asperger]

Or better yet, was God on the side of the satanic Bolsheviks and satanic people like Henry Morgenthau Jr.? I do not believe that he was on the allies side either.

God never sided with the Bolsheviks, as evidenced by how horrible the Soviet Union was and how many casualties they had. They probably would have capitulated if the US had not joined in the war.
With the allies, I believe God was with them, despite what I think about them. They were almost all Christian and it was a similar situation to the romans crucifying Christ. The soldiers didn't know any better, especially regarding the future after the allies won.

 

[It_is_my_time]

God never sided with the Bolsheviks, as evidenced by how horrible the Soviet Union was and how many casualties they had. They probably would have capitulated if the US had not joined in the war.
With the allies, I believe God was with them, despite what I think about them. They were almost all Christian and it was a similar situation to the romans crucifying Christ. The soldiers didn't know any better, especially regarding the future after the allies won.

You think God allied with Henry Morganthau, who was essentially the president of the USA? He was a Bolshevik who got the other half involved in the war to support his friends running the Soviet Union.

I don't blame the soldiers on any side of the war, only the leaders, and the allies were as satanic as they come.