I don't know that much about the US being zogged at the time so sorry about that.
When did you get redpilled on WW2?
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By the 1930's, you already had 20 years of...
Federal Reserve.
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Wall Street manipulation that lead to a great depression. Despite the vast resources and opportunities in the USA at the time, we couldn't get out of it due to the Wall Street Bankers greed, but Germany came right out of it by kicking the bankers out.
Please specify. I hear about this and am not denying it, but what specifically is "occult research" and what specifically did they do? I'm happy to Google but feel like what you're saying is vague so if you could point me to something more concrete that'd be appreciated.
I think Himmler was big into the occult. What I have learned about him is that he seemed to be a weird guy. Probably extremely power hungry and was willing to do whatever it took to rise up the ranks and gain Hitler's favor. He was almost like Hitler's own Kushner, not nearly that bad, but still an odd fit at the top. IIRC, Himmler upset Hitler at the very end, by trying to go around him and get a peace deal with the west at the end of the war and Hitler demanded he be stripped of his rank and power. After Hitler's suicide, Karl Donitz took over and told Himmler to go away and he has no authority for the last week of the third reich.
Himmler, along with other Nazi propagandists, demonized Charlemagne as this evil Christian invader who slaughtered the Pagan Saxons in Germany, they even designed a memorial to the massacre in Verden. It's the same rhetoric used by neopagans against the Christianity.
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I can't speak on what Himmler did or did not do. But the Germans had so much respect for Charlemagne that they named their French citizens Waffen-SS volunteers division after Charlemange...Himmler, along with other Nazi propagandists, demonized Charlemagne as this evil Christian invader who slaughtered the Pagan Saxons in Germany, they even designed a memorial to the massacre in Verden. It's the same rhetoric used by neopagans against the Christianity.
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33rd Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Charlemagne
There are so many lies about Hitler/Nazi's/WW2 that it will make your head spin when you start to really dig into it.
There was a deference to Charlemagne in the sense that he was the founder of the First Reich, my point is that there was also this pagan branch in the Nazi Party that understood the Christian faith introduced by Charlemagne as antithetical to the German people.
There were indeed certain signs showing that God was not on the side of the Axis, especially in the later years of the war.
Before Barbarossa: May (when it was supposed to be launched) was unchacteristically wet, turning all roads in Russia to mud, delaying the launch by a month. Combined with the Germans being unecessarily delayed in Greece.
During Barbarossa: Stalin declares the Great Patriotic War and stops persecuting the Church. Coldest winter in Europe in half a century.
During the Battle of the Atlantic: The Enigma machine is miraculously captured. This event alone saved Britain's war effort.
Midway: Extraordinary amount of luck allows the USN to avoid losing all its carriers. Possibly the result of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor on a Sunday (and generally being pagans).
During Wacht am Rein: Patton has his chaplain pray to God for clear weather so he can relieve Bastogne. Snow stops the next day, against weather forecasts.
Towards the end: Hitler having to blow his brains (after a non-religious "wedding"). Goering poisoning himself while imprisoned, Himmler poisoning himself while being "medically examed" (having spent his life persecuting Christians and dabbling in the occult). Goebels shoots himself and his wife right after watching his 5 kids getting poisoned by his wife. This is not how men of God meet their end.
Yes, there certainly was a pagan element to Nazism. There were lots of elements to Nazism, it was a blend of Germany's history going back thousands of years, even before Christianity.
The situation is that no other movement has pushed back more on the satanic evil that is destroying the west. Should we copy it? Probably not. Can we learn from it and use constructive criticism of it to make a more Christian based nationalist movement? Probably so. What they were able to accomplish is beyond amazing when you look at what is happening in the west today.
Towards his end, he married Eva Braun in a civil wedding, specifically asking for a priest NOT to be present.
What do you think about the Iron Guard? Was God on their side?
I believe they were a really Christian (and based) group. More than anyone on the timeframe of WW2. Yet Codreanu suffered an awful fate as well, and so did a lot of other legionaries.
I haven't done much reading about the Iron Guard and I can't comment.
However, one crucial difference with the Nazi leaders is that Codreancu was assasinated and didn't commit suicide.
A friend recommended me a 3 hour long podcast about them and I listened through all of it. It's really good and I'd send it to you but it's in portuguese.
I think you gentlemen are going to get lost in the weeds when you go off in search of clues and proof as to exactly what was Divine intervention and what wasn't and whose side God was really on.
This was not so much a religious war as a racial war.
ie: Jewish transatlantic power against rebellious Germans and Japanese
Japan knew the war was lost almost as soon as they initiated it however they had little choice considering the ultimatums America had given them.
Germanys main concern was the military machine that was slave state USSR and the coming confrontation with Soviet aggression.
There was no need for a dispute over borders in Central Europe , which Hitler was seeking a diplomatic solution to, to turn into a World War.
But that was what the Jews wanted and Hitlers confrontation with Schacht guaranteed a global cataclysm of Jewish design - although the Germans did not yet know it.
And just as with WWI the American entry into the European war was already a done deal long before Pearl Harbour, again , unbeknownst to the Germans.
But the Germans did KNOW that they were the underdogs from the very start.
They did not want war with Britain nor France nor America.
They were facing an inevitable collision with the USSR to their East.
If people go through this thread they will see that just in terms of military numbers alone the Germans were hopelessly outnumbered and didn't have the Navy to prosecute a World War.
And Himmler did not kill himself.
He was murdered.
Even the allied propaganda around his death contradicts itself and proves that any suicide was impossible.
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This is proof to show those ziocons and conservatives you know who like to relate current American politics to Hitler in terms of censorship and "gun-grabbing" efforts by the state. The gun laws introduced under the National Socialists were very pro-citizen. Their government had nothing to fear from its citizens, unlike every communist pyramid scheme that takes over governments and messes up everything. It is good to pause the first three pages and read as the video plays faster than people can read.
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Has anyone heard about the 86 year old Ukrainian Jewish woman Inna Zhvanetskaya who is being threatened with forced vaccination? This has been a topic in my newsfeed for days and I suspect it is some kind of Jewish psy-op regarding Germany. What is your opinion on this? Is it made to remind the Germans of their never ending guilt?
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The case Inna Zhvanetskaya - is forced vaccination of Jews "a good German tradition"?
The old lady is currently on the run from the authorities to avoid mandatory vaccination.
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Here a nice sum-up of German history which could be used to redpill my fellow man, need to translate it.
I found it in the JQ thread, but
hence here the original Twitter link to the thread
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I found it in the JQ thread, but
hence here the original Twitter link to the thread
Onion:
Yes. Lone, brave Jewish person stands firm against the horrible Germans. They are even willing to set aside vaxx ideology to maintain apex victim status. That's the structure that allows all the other guilt-trips to work, so they prop it up. Maybe they are paving the way for "it was brave old Jewish lady that got the world to re-think these bad vaxxes. See, you owe us for the humanity she so bravely re-introduced to the world."Has anyone heard about the 86 year old Ukrainian Jewish woman Inna Zhvanetskaya who is being threatened with forced vaccination? This has been a topic in my newsfeed for days and I suspect it is some kind of Jewish psy-op regarding Germany. What is your opinion on this? Is it made to remind the Germans of their never ending guilt?
The case Inna Zhvanetskaya - is forced vaccination of Jews "a good German tradition"?
The old lady is currently on the run from the authorities to avoid mandatory vaccination.
Either way, more power to her, unless it was all originally contrived, which I doubt.