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Then how do you explain all of his quotes from his speeches and the writings of Mein Kampf in regards to Christianity, something Irving says he thinks Hitler didn't even write? Its not just some guy on bitchute, if you look at the source material you will see many more references to Christianity in a positive light. One off-handed comment that could have been taken out of context by a general who could have been an aristocrat doesn't constitute him thinking what the pagans of today say about Christianity. Irving recently admitted that gassings took place in the woods, not in the camps themselves, which is odd. I figure that, at 83 years old, the age at which he offered some recanting of his work, after decades of pushback and seeing narrow list of allies dwindle over time, he was probably fixated on a few final years of peace and not dying in prison. And he only implicated himself, not the work of others. Regardless, his work is still out there and can't be unwritten. His self-preservation doesn't diminish his service. If you're going by number of comments from Hitler for and against Christianity, the recorded number of pro-Christianity sentiments far outweigh anything negative. Many of his negative comments were in regards to hypocritical Christians who would use their faith as an affront to wage war, do backhanded deals, or distort the truth, while shielding themselves behind the bible. He said this about Neville Chaimberlain in 39. He never said anything derogatory about the Catholic church in his entire life. He was against the bickering and squabbling of the churches between themselves, which he saw as a source of strife to the German people, so many of his comments may sound harsh to western ears of people who do not live with severe religious schism keeping the people divided.
Anyhow, from Hitler's War, the pdf itself says the following:
"Thus spoke Adolf Hitler, aged thirty-three, in December 1922. Touching upon religion, he said simply that Christianity was the only possible ethical foundation for Germany, and that religious strife was the worst misfortune that could befall her." - page 6.
"On January 21 he delivered the first of many secret speeches to his generals. An anonymous three-page summary exists, showing that Hitler began with a description of the Roman Empire, and how thereafter Christianity had given western civilisation the inner unity it needed to stave off eastern invasions" - page 51.
"Adolf hitler’sattitude toward the Church was ambivalent. Even though now absolute dictator he still hesitated to launch a terminal crusade against it. He had expressly forbidden newspapers to print any reference to schisms between the various religions, and transgressors were heavily punished. In April 1938 all editors had been circularised by the propaganda ministry, ‘The embargo on polemics against Christianity and the Church is still in force.’ When in 1939 a squabble broke out over the desire of the churches to mark the Führer’s fiftieth birthday by peals of bells, Hitler ruled, ‘The churches are not to be prevented from celebrating the event. But nor are they to be compelled to.’" - page 181.
"The Führer was however hard to please, for when at Christmas the Essener National-Zeitung ventured a seasonal comparison between Adolf Hitler and the Messiah, Goebbels confidentially informed the entire German press that the Führer would prefer them to abstain from such comparisons in the future." - pages 264-265.
"something distantly resembling the spirit of Christmas overcame Hitler. Instructing Göring’s Luftwaffe to suspend all bombing missions against Britain until the Christian festival was over, he set out with his personal staff on a Christmas tour of the western front." - page 352.
There are some passages that are not direct quotes, but are literally dinner table talks, which don't have any veracity. The jewish artefact passage is one of them, and so is another where the writer discusses the barbarity of church executions of the past by quartering and torturing. These all are not quoted in the same linguistic style of Hitler's speaking, but are different, even to my western ears when reciting them. To microanalyze this is folly, we all have had our doubts about the faith before coming fully into God's grace, and I can't judge a man whose out-of-context dinner conversations were taken and written to attempt to analyze his attitudes, when he clearly adopted a pro-Christian sentiment with clear separation of church and state.
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