Where did G Manifesto go?

Moma

Peacock
Gold Member
Christian McQueen said:
soup said:
Maybe G Manifesto is a ginger who doesn't wear pocket-squares, but just like Jesus wasn't real, the guy doesn't have to be real if some of the ideas he presents actually work.

Did anyone go out and try G Manifestos advice? Some of it seems spot-on to me.

This is the key many forget: his advice works.

So what if he's an internet persona? If anyone is that attached to people over the internet they have a problem.

Not to brag, but I've brought the value of G, but have met multiple (over 25 at least) guys from the forum, so I bring value + proof of not being a fraud.

Alright, I'm done stroking my ego. :laugh:

It's hard to take bodybuilding advice from a pudgy kid who lives in a pieshop and looks like a pie. That's the whole thing.

The biggest allure about RVF is that it's real life experience written by real people who have no bias in selling some jazzed up travel brochure for some exotic location.
 

Giovonny

Crow
Gold Member
soup said:

Are you guys sure this is G???

Has this been confirmed?

Or, are we just trusting that guy at puahate?

He also says G and Fisto and McQueen are all the same person..

Can we trust what he says..?

Vacancier Permanent said:
it was painfully obvious from the start due to his inconsistencies,

What were his inconsistencies?

I don't recall any..?

Remember, he admitted that he took "artistic freedoms" in his writings.

Vacancier Permanent said:
Have been providing consistent value

I thought G provided value.

The mindset, the attitude, the custom suits, the pocket squares, the cash, the non-conformity, the high end taste, the playboy lifestyle, etc.

It inspired me and helped me redefine myself as a man.

I knew it wasn't based 100% on reality but it was still helpful.

G was like a good fictional movie. It isn't real but it still can inspire and motivate.

In my opinion.

Vacancier Permanent said:
have met and been vouched by many people in here

No one has ever met Tuthmosis.

No one has ever met Athlone McGinnis aka Excelsior

It doesn't mean we can learn form them.

I've never met Nietzsche, Plato, or Casanova either.

I still learn from their writings.

*****

I don't want to defend G too much. I always knew he wasn't exactly as he presented himself.

But, after he admitted taking "artistic freedoms" in his writings, I just accepted him for what he is, a funny guy with a unique perspective.

I'm sure he is not the only guy with a fictional "online persona".

*****

I still believe in Santa Claus!
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
I personally don't believe that guy is G even if G is completely invented. From his style of writing, Gman just seems more urban and streetwise to me.

Then again maybe the guy has some real talent as a writer inventing characters. But... then he should have been more successful in Hollywood, no?

I suppose someone could have a totally split personality and fool everyone. With the internet you just never know- kind of like The Matrix.
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
Avarence said:
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This .gif is fantastic.
 

Vacancier Permanent

Crow
Gold Member
Gio,
The problem is not with his "advices" which can be sound, but rather with him taking other people's experiences and passing them as his.

As to inconsistencies, I'll give you just a couple:
- pretending to be balling it while wearing custom made suits in the French Riviera or Barcelona swooping fly models as he likes to say while asking about Ryan Air and hostels on the French Riviera and of all places, in Monaco!
- pretending to be making 20K by noon each day while pushing around his links for books on Amazon where you are making peanuts per sale. Certainly not something g that an self respecting true balla would do.
- the quality of his "data sheets". Compare his to what any half decent DS looks like in here and the difference is as obvious as the day. His DS are mainly a few lines of general platitudes, followed by a thuggish rap video.

As to wearing suit improving your odds of swooping and boosting your self confidence, that's nothing proprietary nor earth shattering. Any man with a brain would realize that by just being observant and paying attention to how things work in the real world.

I will give him that he does have a sense of humor and a way with words that can be convincing. That's the least you'd expect from a freelance journalist and screen writer.
 

draguer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
The fact that an 'international playboy' making bank (and whose time is therefore very valuable) would clock up nearly 10,000 posts on a forum should have provided some doubt.
 

Giovonny

Crow
Gold Member
Vacancier Permanent said:
him taking other people's experiences and passing them as his.

How do we know this?

Just because that guy on puahate says so?

I don't doubt it. I'm just asking for some proof..?

Vacancier Permanent said:
As to inconsistencies, I'll give you just a couple:

- pretending to be balling it while wearing custom made suits in the French Riviera or Barcelona swooping fly models as he likes to say while asking about Ryan Air and hostels on the French Riviera and of all places, in Monaco!

My understanding was that Ryan Air was the only available airline for the route he was trying to take. We discussed this at the time and I thought it was confirmed..?

I don't remember him ever asking about hostels. He always made fun of hostels!

Vacancier Permanent said:
pretending to be making 20K by noon each day while pushing around his links for books on Amazon

The money was part of his "persona". Again, he admitted to being a "character" and not a real person.

The Amazon links were a little weird for a rich guy to have???

He said he was just playing around with internet marketing..

That was a little funny..

Vacancier Permanent said:
the quality of his "data sheets"

I don't remember his "data sheets" so I can't really comment here..

Vacancier Permanent said:
As to wearing suit improving your odds of swooping and boosting your self confidence, that's nothing proprietary nor earth shattering.

That might be true but you gotta admit, he was the first guy on the forum talking about custom suits and pocket squares.

A lot of young playboys have told me that G inspired them to wear suits and squares.

*****

I'm not trying to defend him based off my emotional connection to him.

I just like to identify the facts.

I just like to see the proof.

*****

What proof do we have?

Is it just that thread on puahate?

*****

draguer said:
The fact that an 'international playboy' making bank (and whose time is therefore very valuable) would clock up more than 10,000 posts on a forum should have provided some doubt.

Why would that provide doubt?

Roosh is an international playboy and he has 11,000 posts

Excelsior is an Ivy League college student and he has 11,000 posts.

Soup is a professional musician in New York city and he has 9,000 posts.

I don't doubt any of those guys based on the amount of posts they have.

I just passed 5,000, does that make me less credible?
 

soup

Owl
Gold Member
el mechanico said:
^ That was a nice way of putting it.

Also Soup " but just like Jesus wasn't real"

:troll:

Don't think you're that smart.

I'm skeptical for sure.

I don't believe anything. I make assumptions and take risks.

If there's good info, I'll probably try it.

The whole thing boils down to time management.

We have to take leaps of faith with the game approaches we talk about here.

I read Tuth's recipe for first date bang. I could have not tried it out, but Tuth seemed like a legit dude, and the info seemed like it would make sense.

I tried it out for myself, and it worked (at the time it almost seemed like magic).

I think fewer people on here are going to take G Manifesto for real as a gangbanger/Scarface guy that he portrayed himself as on the forum for many years.

Guys are probably going to be less likely to spend their time trying out a G Manifesto technique or idea now, much less spend money on any of his books.
 

worldwidetraveler

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Giovonny said:
The money was part of his "persona". Again, he admitted to being a "character" and not a real person.

The Amazon links were a little weird for a rich guy to have???

He said he was just playing around with internet marketing..

That was a little funny..

I love the G hate. You have to hand it to the guy if he can wind up people like this.

I am a little surprised at VP, though, when talking about making money through links and such. Just because you are making money doesn't mean you don't have several side hustles and why not get paid if you got some traffic coming in.

People seem to gloss over some of the stuff G says which is a shame.

G never said he was rich. He said he spent his money on specific things while not wasting it on cars, purchasing homes , flying first class, etc...

That means he can live a more lavish lifestyle because he is selective on how he sends his money. We talk about this stuff on this forum all the time yet he gets called a fraud because he took a straight flight with a discount airline instead of taking a long ass flight with multiple connections

Too bad people don't take that and run with it instead of trying to find inconsistencies so they can call the guy a fraud.
 

draguer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Why would that provide doubt?

Roosh is an international playboy and he has 11,000 posts

Excelsior is an Ivy League college student and he has 11,000 posts.

Soup is a professional musician in New York city and he has 9,000 posts.

I don't doubt any of those guys based on the amount of posts they have.

I just passed 5,000, does that make me less credible?

I don't mean to question your credibility and have huge respect for the value you have provided on here, as well as the other guys you mentioned.

The point I was making was that anyone claiming to make 20k before noon as Vac had said, would undoubtedly be very selective as to how they spend their time.
 

Giovonny

Crow
Gold Member
Vacancier Permanent said:
Gio,
In a rush now, but regarding him passing other people's content as his:
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17592.html
Read post # 22 by Roosh.

Which in turn links to:
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17111-post-303004.html#pid303004

Read post # 137 by Moma.

I followed those links..

I don't follow exactly what happened?

Roosh was saying that G is mean to newbies..

Some asked G about having success in Toronto..

G posted a successful Toronto story that Qwest posted..

I don't get where the problem is???

You said G stole other peoples information and passed it off as his own..?

Can you provide a link or some proof of that?

Again, I don't doubt it, I would just like to see the evidence..

*****

draguer said:
The point I was making was that anyone claiming to make 20k before noon as Vac had said, would undoubtedly be very selective as to how they spend their time.

VC was exaggerating when he said G claimed to make 20k before noon. G never said that.

He did claim to live a high end type of lifestyle.

He also hinted at money being made illegitimately.

The number of posts he made was irrelevant to his "work" schedule.

Just because you have money doesn't mean you are working all day.

Some guys are born rich.

I know guys with trust funds who never have to work.

I know guys who inherited commercial real estate and never have to work.

The smart rich people don't work at all!

*****

Wait! There is really no evidence or proof other then some crazy guy on puahate???

We are trusting puahate now for our information?

I don't have enough information to make a decision.

I know G is not the internet persona that he claimed to be but I don't know if he is Rob Wiser or not..?

I don't have enough data to be able to say one way or the other..
 

The Lizard of Oz

Crow
Gold Member
This is f'ing ridiculous.

Guys are buying into the idea that G has been "unmasked" based on what -- an "investigation" on puahate by some genius who also believes that G is the same person as Fisto and has generated "75% of the content on RVF"? (that's an actual quote from this troll).

WTF -- what's wrong with everyone?

I have no idea who G is in reality. But I see zero reasons to believe -- none -- that he is who this puahate troll says he is.
 

Deluge

Hummingbird
Gold Member
This post by G laid it all to rest for me. If G was faking his travels over the years, Roosh would've been able to tell by looking up his IP. No one has ever tried out his info regarding travel, suits or health and found that they were wrong. Considering all this, how fake can the man behind the persona really be? As for his money, I thought it was pretty obvious from his blog that he's actually a commodities and/or Forex trader.

A lot of people got beef with him because he got into a heated argument with them over Toronto. Yet MiXX, Qwest, International Swagger and other guys said the exact same things about Toronto and no one got their panties into a knot over that with them personally. G is a lightning rod for hate it seems.
 

The Lizard of Oz

Crow
Gold Member
Further. As to G generally.

I'm just going to post some quotes from this page

http://www.rooshvforum.com/reputation.php?uid=377

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Maybe not all the datasheets are "fake" and not all the knowledge is "bogus".

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