Where to escape coronavirus lockdowns/tyranny?

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
All this talk of Georgia, my wife and I were there for 4 weeks this summer. The place was way more Covid'd than others, certainly more so than Ukraine. Fail to wear a mask in a shop there you're barked at, even told to 'cover nose' a few times. Told to wear a mask while walking through an empty restaurant to the bathroom, having been sat outside eating food. Hassled when going into a cafe for take aways etc.

They brought in a mask-in-street mandate that approx 70% of pop seemed to go along with, this was in late 30s celsius. Taxi drivers telling us to mask up (never happens here).

Think people fetishise Georgia here as some sort of 'based mountain christian' paradise. Sorry, but its not really anythign like that. At very least re Covid etc. Tbilsi is covered in EU flags as well, as part of their pipedream of joining. There's undoubted NGO presence. Weirdly malign graffiti around (written in English which is a giveaway)

Also if times do get hard, they will go ultra clannish, and you will be forever an outsider.

Just my take on the place. Lived there 3 years ago, and from experiencing it post-covid this summer.
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Full circle to the original question of this thread:
Where to escape coronavirus lockdowns/tyranny?
I now believe COMPLETELY off-grid is the only answer.

In practical terms:
  • Pick a country / region where you can stay for a long time (resident, not tourist, etc.)
  • Figure out your community of like minded people
  • Figure out your food supply - join people who are already farming, or start a homestead. Warm climates will make this 10x easier.
  • Become completely self sustaining in all other ways also - electricity, water, etc.
It's become clear to me that picking countries is merely kicking the can down the road. They're ALL doing it, just at different speeds.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
Do a news filter search for places that report "flash mob" occurrences anywhere in the news cycle, then search for geographic areas with mask/vax mandates.

Chances are, a Venn diagram overlay of where the flash mobs happen would be the same as areas with mask/vax mandates. Do a search for high crime areas and see a similar correlation.

Then, simply avoid those areas altogether. No flash mobs is an indirect way of filtering out woke madness, which filters out the mask/vax madness.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
Figure out your community of like minded people

  • Become completely self sustaining in all other ways also - electricity, water, etc.
Recently Terrence Popp interviewed a Georgian guy who went thorough the the chaos of Russians attacking them a few years back. One takeaway for survival - he said never try to go it alone. Have a crew of like minded individuals, family, or something. Solo people never stood a chance. You may be able to stop one or two guys coming at your place one day, but when a truckload of ten guys shows up the next time, forget the Rambo movies - you're toast. Makes sense - cops only send a few guys to arrest one guy in a trailer park and they almost always get their man. They tried to get David Koresh and it was a different story.
 

Geo Martin

Woodpecker
Catholic
Lots of people mention The Deagle Forecast.

I am approaching everything with an open mind. But why should this forecast be taken seriously?
At this point in time I'd say nothing that comes down the pipes of the beast media should be taken as truth. Taken seriously yes, as they reveal a plan, the intentions, which is useful to know. That's why I do check the mainstream media, not because I believe a word they say to be true but to see what they are up to.
 

Geo Martin

Woodpecker
Catholic
Full circle to the original question of this thread:

I now believe COMPLETELY off-grid is the only answer.

In practical terms:
  • Pick a country / region where you can stay for a long time (resident, not tourist, etc.)
  • Figure out your community of like minded people
  • Figure out your food supply - join people who are already farming, or start a homestead. Warm climates will make this 10x easier.
  • Become completely self sustaining in all other ways also - electricity, water, etc.
It's become clear to me that picking countries is merely kicking the can down the road. They're ALL doing it, just at different speeds.
May I add to the list learning essencial skills for home repairs, cloths mending, baking and food presevation, foraging, and getting familiar with nature especially in winter. And of course only trusting God and those who speak his word.
 

Mountaineer

 
Banned
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
He was Georgian, of course, he'll be biased about his birth land. Plus I don't know why people refer to that place as Georgia.
The Russians call it Gruzya and locals themselves call it Sakartvelo. neither has any relation to St George.
In Polish it's also called Gruzja.
 

EndlessGravity

 
Banned
Protestant
Think people fetishise Georgia here as some sort of 'based mountain christian' paradise.

I've noticed this about several places talked about here that I know too. I was just in Florida. Everyone acts like it's a mecca. Yet there's 20% mask wearing in stores and you still can get throw out of places or denied service. There haven't been mandates in over a year.
 

Acerza89

Pigeon
Orthodox Inquirer
A part of me says going off grid is a waste of time, ultimately its futile, you will get bored and without sanitation, water, electricity, our minds will disintergerate in depression. Not to put any one off, it may be a good idea to try getting a dumbphone, as a taster to being off grid. Anyway I am hopeful we will find a solution.
 

SeaEagle

Robin
Catholic
A part of me says going off grid is a waste of time, ultimately its futile, you will get bored and without sanitation, water, electricity, our minds will disintergerate in depression. Not to put any one off, it may be a good idea to try getting a dumbphone, as a taster to being off grid. Anyway I am hopeful we will find a solution.
I suppose it is opinion, but living off-grid sounds like a great time to me. Nature clears the mind and off-grid living requires constant labour with direct reward as opposed to the abstract way of living in modern society. Also not buying everything you need thereby paying taxes to a corrupt government would lift ones spirits.

It would be a tough adjustment for most, don't get me wrong, but I feel it would be worth it.
 

Going strong

Crow
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Gold Member
Living off-grid, yes, but you better go with your wife (and she has to like nature life, respect outdoors, faith and simple things), and most importantly, firearms.

Without firearms your belongings, and sadly even wife, would be taken. Your skills would be of little use against other (desperate) men with guns.

But if you have faith, good health, a Bible, guns and a good respectful God-fearing wife, yes, living off grid is currently a very good idea.
 

MartyMcFly

Ostrich
Other Christian
A part of me says going off grid is a waste of time, ultimately its futile, you will get bored and without sanitation, water, electricity, our minds will disintergerate in depression. Not to put any one off, it may be a good idea to try getting a dumbphone, as a taster to being off grid. Anyway I am hopeful we will find a solution.
Depends on your attitude. If you live in a place with nice nature, plenty of books to read, and a few hobbies, you can have a fulfilling and happy life off the grid. Having a good spouse, a dog, and/ or being near a few decent people that you can trust will definitely help.

People were happy in the 1800's without electricity or flush toilets. You can find poor people today that are happier than some CEOs or actors with mansions and millions in the bank. Attitude is key.
 

Don Quixote

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Full circle to the original question of this thread:

I now believe COMPLETELY off-grid is the only answer.

In practical terms:
  • Pick a country / region where you can stay for a long time (resident, not tourist, etc.)
  • Figure out your community of like minded people
  • Figure out your food supply - join people who are already farming, or start a homestead. Warm climates will make this 10x easier.
  • Become completely self sustaining in all other ways also - electricity, water, etc.
It's become clear to me that picking countries is merely kicking the can down the road. They're ALL doing it, just at different speeds.
That begs the question, which countries are actually easy to gain residence in?
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Protestant
Gold Member
Living off-grid, yes, but you better go with your wife (and she has to like nature life, respect outdoors, faith and simple things), and most importantly, firearms.

Without firearms your belongings, and sadly even wife, would be taken. Your skills would be of little use against other (desperate) men with guns.

But if you have faith, good health, a Bible, guns and a good respectful God-fearing wife, yes, living off grid is currently a very good idea.
Still not enough imo. The marauders/contractors/actual military will come in numbers and overtake you.

All you said plus a community around you.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
I've noticed this about several places talked about here that I know too. I was just in Florida. Everyone acts like it's a mecca. Yet there's 20% mask wearing in stores and you still can get throw out of places or denied service. There haven't been mandates in over a year.

Was in Kansas and OK recently. Basically everywhere I went in the state, except for some of the inner areas of KC, had near-zero mask compliance except for the odd boomer. Oklahoma City was not anywhere near as good but still better than many places. Kansas is behaving more or less like 2019 except staff in all the corporate chains are masked up by policy.
 

GreatIrishElk

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
The best place to escape the tyranny is within.
Thank you, I was reading through this forum and surprised to see nobody mention this.
Perhaps I am somewhat immature in my thinking, but even before covid I was considering building towards an ascetic lifestyle. Who needs to go and sit in a cafe, restaurant or bar?
Is there any worldly entertainment better than settling down with a good book?
The stress of trying to find somewhere to ‘escape’ the tyranny in my opinion is not worth it. Roosh himself has said many times before that if you move somewhere, how long is it before that place is as bad if not worse than the place you left?
I think now is the time to begin simplifying your lifestyle, and preparing yourself mentally for when you really can’t go anywhere without the vax.
Save your strength, build your faith and keep your socialising to places that will enrich your well-being and take nothing away from it e.g money.
If it was good enough for Aristotle it should be good enough for us.

EDIT: “I have known kings to be beggars and beggars to be kings, because they believed it so” - heard this on it’s always sunny but I’m sure that is not where it originated
 
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