Whether or not you would let your kids hang out with a family headed by a gay couple

Ah_Tibor

Robin
Woman
Yeah, one of my sister's big arguments is that these neighbors of hers are Republicans and I'd probably share a lot in common with them.

A lot of gay men try to latch onto normie women to prove how normal they are. My sister-in-law was roomies with one of these who tried to rope her into supporting his terrible adventures. (I don't want to relate everything here-- short version is that he did a lot of things that could have gotten her killed.)

She was pretty uncomfortable when we said that we would never let our kid near anything like a drag queen story hour. Because, you know, "some of those guys are better at make-up than me! They seem fun!"

No they don't. They're ugly as sh*t and look like clowns.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
... I can get along, but do I want them to be a close friend? No. Why would I have to make a hypothetical scenerio where we're great friends or that I'm missing out?

So I would tell somebody who's knee-deep in propaganda that I would judge them according the same standards that I would a straight couple. That's true!
Having gay friends is a losing proposition, especially for a young man. All his straight friends and prospective mates will wonder if he's on the down low, and all of his new "friends" are themselves only hoping to be first in line for the teenage coming out party.

So many homos want to be teachers, scout leaders, camp counselors, etc., so they can gain access to impressionable youth. Any cop can tell you the signs of someone looking to groom, so again, why invite that into your life at the expense of your child?

Some of those gay men don't just merely latch onto women as an accessory. I knew a divorced woman who fell for a guy she thought was great. They got married, she'd already had two children and sent them off to college, but he really wanted a child. She said ok, cranked one out, then he pretty much said "Thanks, by the way I'm a homo" and hit the road.

Never mind the horror show the kid will experience growing up, her personal life is probably finished. I don't care how many HIV tests she gets after that, she's going to have a tough time dating any man with sense.
 

Kitty Tantrum

Woodpecker
Woman
I have a gay brother. Should I not let him spend time around my kids? He has never had a boyfriend that he wanted to introduce to the family, but if he does in the future, should I keep my children away from that whole situation? I mean, how far does that principle go and how far do you take it?

Do you make exceptions for family? Would it be a case-by-case basis?
 
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SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
I have a gay brother. Should I not let him spend time around my kids? He has never had a boyfriend that he wanted to introduce to the family, but if he does in the future, should I keep my children away from that whole situation? I mean, how far does that principle go and how far do you take it?

Do you make exceptions for family? Would it be a case-by-case basis?
If your brother was an unrepentant alcoholic and wanted to drink to excess in front of your kids, would you be ok with that? Or if he smoked in front of them, or wanted to swear a lot, or maybe watch some porn on his smartphone at the table...

Whatever it is, you will get more of what you tolerate and less of what you do not.
 

Ah_Tibor

Robin
Woman
So many homos want to be teachers, scout leaders, camp counselors, etc., so they can gain access to impressionable youth. Any cop can tell you the signs of someone looking to groom, so again, why invite that into your life at the expense of your child?

Some of those gay men don't just merely latch onto women as an accessory. I knew a divorced woman who fell for a guy she thought was great. They got married, she'd already had two children and sent them off to college, but he really wanted a child. She said ok, cranked one out, then he pretty much said "Thanks, by the way I'm a homo" and hit the road.

That's what this guy was doing. He's a teacher, and isn't "out" at work (which he thinks is a big secret though any idiot with eyes can figure it out), and dating women that he would display very publically while sleeping with multiple strange men. Also while saying he wanted to marry a women and have a kid.

He also specifically went after women with emotional problems so he could feel ok about dumping them and having the high ground. I don't doubt for a second he'll knock up some desperate 30-something and get at least partial custody.
 
I have a gay brother. Should I not let him spend time around my kids? He has never had a boyfriend that he wanted to introduce to the family, but if he does in the future, should I keep my children away from that whole situation? I mean, how far does that principle go and how far do you take it?

Do you make exceptions for family? Would it be a case-by-case basis?
If I had a gay brother I wouldn't even want him around my kids - let alone his Sodomite partner

About 90 percent of the sexual abuse cases are perpetrated by non-strangers, ie. relatives, friends and neighbors. Sodomites are deranged people and highly over-representated in perps-of-abuse stats

Likewise I also wouldn't let my children play with a relative's pitbulls because they weren't raised to be violent and unpredictable
 
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Luna Novem

Woodpecker
Woman
I have a gay brother. Should I not let him spend time around my kids? He has never had a boyfriend that he wanted to introduce to the family, but if he does in the future, should I keep my children away from that whole situation? I mean, how far does that principle go and how far do you take it?

Do you make exceptions for family? Would it be a case-by-case basis?
The family thing would be tough, for sure. All of our siblings are straight. I do have one lesbian cousin, but she lives in South Africa and I haven't seen her since I was 14, nor do I have plans to see her anytime in the foreseeable future.
 

Kitty Tantrum

Woodpecker
Woman
If your brother was an unrepentant alcoholic and wanted to drink to excess in front of your kids, would you be ok with that? Or if he smoked in front of them, or wanted to swear a lot, or maybe watch some porn on his smartphone at the table...

Whatever it is, you will get more of what you tolerate and less of what you do not.
Well, I wouldn't want a straight couple having sex in front of my children either, just so we're clear.

But that's not really what's in question.

Is the alcoholic allowed to be around while they are not intoxicated and not drinking?
 

Leeloo

Woodpecker
Woman
I don't really get along with women who are really into Disney, day drinking, reality shows et al.

Those Disney-obsessed women really irk me as well. It’s like their emotional maturity just stopped at age 12 or whatever when they would feel good about imagining themselves as one of the princesses. And then they’re just stunted child-adults. It’s not cute at 40. Or even 20’s and 30’s. I would list this as one of those personality characteristics men should avoid. Nothing wrong with Disney but when it’s that obsessive, it’s covering up so many more undesirable traits. Not to mention it escalates into the woman expecting yearly trips to the theme parks because she “has to” spend her birthday at Disney and she just “has to” have her dream wedding there I one of the venues (on his dime, of cour$e!)

Woops, off topic here! Carry on.

Regarding the gay couples, I would simply say that I’m not comfortable having my child be around sexual deviants unsupervised. As someone previously posted, homosexuals primarily identify themselves by their sexuality in a way that normal couples don’t. And for kids, that can be confusing (best case scenario) or dangerous (worst case scenario).



Edit to add: have your sister ask or find out if either or both of the gays are in therapy. I worked in the theatre and live entertainment world for a long time and knew tons of gay people and couples. No kidding, ALL of them were seeing a therapist or “life counselor” and were not afraid to share about it, like a badge of honor. It’s like deep down they know they’re deviant and cannot reconcile themselves.
Now, of course normal people see therapists too, but most sane-minded people don’t brag about it. Most are ashamed or know it’s one of those private things you don’t and shouldn’t share publicly. Food for thought.
 
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SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
Yeah, one of my sister's big arguments is that these neighbors of hers are Republicans and I'd probably share a lot in common with them.
I just saw the republican governor of Arkansas on Tucker Carlson try to explain his way out of vetoing a bill that would have blocked allowing sex change hormones for teenage kids (the veto was overridden and the bill passed). I've never been too impressed by labels of "conservative" or republican generally, and with each passing year they slide from meaningless to outright ridiculous.
 

Luna Novem

Woodpecker
Woman
I just saw the republican governor of Arkansas on Tucker Carlson try to explain his way out of vetoing a bill that would have blocked allowing sex change hormones for teenage kids (the veto was overridden and the bill passed). I've never been too impressed by labels of "conservative" or republican generally, and with each passing year they slide from meaningless to outright ridiculous.
Very true. I decided not to get into arguing with her that I'm much more "far-right" than "Republican".
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
Well, I wouldn't want a straight couple having sex in front of my children either, just so we're clear.

But that's not really what's in question.

Is the alcoholic allowed to be around while they are not intoxicated and not drinking?
The point is you are allowing the camels nose in the tent just by making time for something you don't need to normalize. We can hair split the same way the homosexuals always hair split the issues - first it's 'leave us alone,' then 'we want civil unions,' then "don't ask don't tell" then gay marriage, then - before the ink is even dry on the latest court decision, trans kids in the school. The evil never stopped at "equal," did it?

An alcoholic who isn't drinking and is in AA may be ok - is your homosexual brother a practicing homosexual or is he repentant? If not, his behavior is evil.

You seem to be rationalizing what you want to do, so your mind is probably made up and you seek validation I can't provide. Think about your children.
 

Kitty Tantrum

Woodpecker
Woman
Don't need to normalize... Spending time with family?

I have no interest in anybody's validation, I am offering up my own situation and perspective for examination, for those interested in sussing out where they think the line is and what principles underpin it.

My family (dad, stepmom, brothers - and now my kids and my husband, and my other brother's girlfriend) have had gatherings at my dad's house (where my brothers and I grew up) forever. A really hardline approach would seem to suggest that I shouldn't bring my children if my gay brother will be there (even though nobody would be doing any gay things).

I think that's a bit much.
 

muhtea

Robin
Woman
Having gay friends is a losing proposition, especially for a young man. All his straight friends and prospective mates will wonder if he's on the down low, and all of his new "friends" are themselves only hoping to be first in line for the teenage coming out party.

So many homos want to be teachers, scout leaders, camp counselors, etc., so they can gain access to impressionable youth. Any cop can tell you the signs of someone looking to groom, so again, why invite that into your life at the expense of your child?

Some of those gay men don't just merely latch onto women as an accessory. I knew a divorced woman who fell for a guy she thought was great. They got married, she'd already had two children and sent them off to college, but he really wanted a child. She said ok, cranked one out, then he pretty much said "Thanks, by the way I'm a homo" and hit the road.

Never mind the horror show the kid will experience growing up, her personal life is probably finished. I don't care how many HIV tests she gets after that, she's going to have a tough time dating any man with sense.
The number of crazy stories I've seen about divorced women and I always just think, you'd have been better off just staying married. This is what divorce gets you a lot of the time. People are usually divorced for a reason and it's never all one person's fault, though that's not to say it's always an equal amount of blame either, before anyone infers that! Women were on the whole better off without the ability to divorce willy nilly.
 
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Ah_Tibor

Robin
Woman
As an aside, I posted about The Twilight Zone in another thread. Charles Beaumont wrote a lot of the famous episodes (Richard Matheson of "I Am Legend" fame was another one); he wrote "The Crooked Man" in the 50s. It's a scifi story set about 500 years in the future where heterosexuality is stigmatized. It was originally published in Playboy as a Twilight Zone-style progressive twist, like wow look what would happen if our society was switched around. Except when reading it: everyone is a test tube baby and lives under a fascist government, I think something is mentioned where they wanted to curb overpopulation. So "The Crooked Man" in this case is the odd heterosexual.

Try getting a story about a fascist gay society published today hahaha (instead of LOVE IS LOVE EVERYTHING IS GREAT HERE BIGOT)


The same writer has another short story, "Miss Gentilbelle" about a boy raised as a girl by a man-hating mom, allegedly based on the writer's own experiences. (The mom is also really evil and kills his pets, so you can figure out what happens at the end of the story.)

Edit: i just reread it, not a depop scheme but they bring up feminism/IVF. Also all disease is eradicated and heterosexuality is compared to a disease.
 
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Vigilant

Woodpecker
Woman
This is not meant to be a religious-based answer, but rather an answer focused on moral standards and values of privacy.

If a relationship is based on homosexual behaviour than the purpose is to fulfil desires of the flesh through [extreme indulgence in bodily pleasures and especially sexual pleasures].

Intimacy between two consenting (hopefully married) adults is to be a private act of love, not a declaration to identify oneself as an individual (LGB). How is identification related to this topic well when a child questions biology (how babies are made) it can be rather confusing to see two homosexual individuals raising a child. The conversation turns from biological facts to justifying sexual deviance. There is nothing private about homosexual couples because of how they identify as an individual - through sexual behaviour / attraction.

Children are often a reflection of his or her parents. A mother has a right to vet who is around her child, and what type of peer influence could occur.

I wrote this with a mindset of two homosexual males, but I wonder what else I would have wrote if it were two lesbians. Why? Because women are to be God's handmaids with children.
There position turns from tolerance to dominating those who resist. It's a slippery slope into "downward into the void"; bestiality, etc.
 
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