Whether or not you would let your kids hang out with a family headed by a gay couple

Vigilant

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First: The answer to the thread's topic is no for me.


Second, my own little addition to this thread: I think a lot of modern gay people today are really, really, really ridiculously stupid.

Not just from a "Hey, what you're doing is going to kill you with AIDS or some other disease!! WTF is wrong with you!" But another level of stupid: "I can't believe you actually did that..."

Let's say in the future, a "gay gene" is discovered. I doubt it exists, but I know only enough genetics to not get the COVID "vaccine." Today, Iceland boasts that it has "cured" Down's Syndrome... By aborting all babies diagnosed with it before they see the light of day (Pray for their souls). What if a guy from Saudi Arabia comes on TV and announces that his country has "cured" homosexuality? He points to a panel of Western-trained doctors and scientists and say, "Our men have worked hard to ID the gay-gene, and, allah be praised, we have found it! We are beginning prenatal tests, and like Iceland we have our own disease to cure. We shall soon start taking cheek swabs of our citizens to root out those gays in hiding to be executed as allah and his prophet commands."

Or let's say in the future, the shariah law party wins a national election in a European country. The new muhammedan overlords/politicians march into the marriage license office, and demand ALL gay marriage licenses. They then hand that information out to their death squads.

(In my darker moments, I've thought it would be sad to see all the degenerates behind a fence, looking up at me in last rocket launching into Space as they realize the people in charge now all think that ISIS was too moderate...)
It's like allowing non-Christians to vote. What do you expect? Heaven or hell on earth?
 

Ah_Tibor

Robin
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Second, my own little addition to this thread: I think a lot of modern gay people today are really, really, really ridiculously stupid.

Not just from a "Hey, what you're doing is going to kill you with AIDS or some other disease!! WTF is wrong with you!" But another level of stupid: "I can't believe you actually did that..."

Let's say in the future, a "gay gene" is discovered. I doubt it exists, but I know only enough genetics to not get the COVID "vaccine."

There isn't one. If there were, it would either have burned itself out years ago OR exist in very small numbers. Sexual selection cares about passing on your genes and nothing else. A behavior that NEVER works isn't going to do that.

Even if gays can hold their nose and have a kid or two, they're competing with people having five or ten. That's even assuming they find an opposite-sex partner *at all*

A lot of gay activists fought against any scientific study of homosexuality because they did believe that it would lead to being prevented in the future. (I remember having to look up Opposing Viewpoints on gay marriage in college because that was a hot topic around 2007)

I like Gregory Cochran's "gay germ" theory--i.e. there's a pathogen that rewires the brain at a critical stage. I think a lot of this stuff gets buried and in reality, it's not that hard to figure out (I also think endocrine disruptors have something to do with it). But gays represent how some want our society to be ordered: functionally sterile, atomized, only concerned with transient sexual partners, a marriage partner is basically a really, really good friend to make a household with, excellent workers and consumers, and family creation is controlled.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
A lot of the gays who aren't totally "faggots" act normally because they live with enough masculine pressure in their lives that they don't feel comfortable living as sinfully as they otherwise would. Put that same gay in a college or major city and the temptation will be too great and they will begin to act much more openly.
From personal experience (a gay guy I knew from a small community in South America who then moved to the big city for college), this is not always true.
 

911

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It's mostly true in the West, your buddy grew up in a healthier Catholic setting so part of him will always be repelled by the homosexual lifestyle. That used to be the case with some older homosexuals in the West who haven't fully embraced the whole package of degeneracy, not the case with the younger crowd who grew up when that deviant behavior was not only tolerated but exalted as the ultimate display of western liberalism.

Homosexuality is mostly cultural, though there are some physiological forces at play as well (hormonal imbalances in the womb or endocrine disruptors during childhood), but mostly, there are definite behavioral and cultural patterns that create the problem. Boys who were molested have a much, much higher likelihood of becoming "gay", while boys who grew up without a father figure, are the youngest, have a lot of sisters and a very close relationship with their mother have a higher likelihood of becoming homosexual. This was the case of one of my cousins, the youngest of a large brood with many sisters whose father died when he was very young. He died of AIDS in the 1990s. In many ways his wayward death was a consequence of his father's early passing.

One subject that hasn't been brought up is conversion therapy, it works, especially if presented with a strong Christian spiritual framework. This is the avenue that the poster whose brother declares himself a homosexual should have taken, and this is where the debate should be, instead of talking about socializing with her wayward brother. The fact that we don't use this avenue is an endorsement of modern degeneracy and the "born this way" luciferian false freedom mindset. I wish my cousin could have been saved with this therapy.

Smart, based therapists like Joseph Nicolosi have shown the way, they are now repressed and prevented from practicing their positive therapy. We are told that "gender is fluid", but that fluidity is only allowed go in one direction and not the other, and this dogma is enshrined as the new religion in a campaign of moral inversion.

 
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Kitty Tantrum

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A lot of the gays who aren't totally "faggots" act normally because they live with enough masculine pressure in their lives that they don't feel comfortable living as sinfully as they otherwise would. Put that same gay in a college or major city and the temptation will be too great and they will begin to act much more openly.

From personal experience (a gay guy I knew from a small community in South America who then moved to the big city for college), this is not always true.
I mean, we grew up in a small town, but in the very liberal PNW. My brother went to college, lives and works in the Seattle area for well over a decade now. I think if he were going to turn into a flaming pot of faggotini, it would have already happened.

In terms of his visible "lifestyle," I'm not sure which of these things is worse and I should ask him to stop doing in view of my kids:

- shooting and collecting guns
- reading extensively (good books even by my estimation)
- rock climbing
- cycling
- kayaking
- building and repairing things
- hobby metalsmithing and other related crafts
- literally always helping and looking out for his family, taking care of his parents, etc.

;)

My take on it is that I keep my children away from people, or not, based on the way they talk and behave - not based on information about their private sins and struggles which I happen to be privy to. I keep my children away from, like, 99% of people, gay or straight - but my brother is not one of them.

I think that if he ever has a "partner" to bring to family gatherings, I WOULD be innately suspicious of the partner (because to me that's a total stranger). Would definitely not allow the partner to be alone/unsupervised with the children ever. Would also not allow brother and partner to be with the children unsupervised, because even though I trust him, brother would not be an appropriate delegate for "supervising" his partner.

I would not worry about my kids ending up incidentally around just my brother unsupervised (like when we're all at my dad's house). Him wanting to take them out and do things has always been a nonexistent issue. He has never shown any interest in having or supervising or generally doing things with children. Like, at all. Ever.
 

Vigilant

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I mean, we grew up in a small town, but in the very liberal PNW. My brother went to college, lives and works in the Seattle area for well over a decade now. I think if he were going to turn into a flaming pot of faggotini, it would have already happened.

In terms of his visible "lifestyle," I'm not sure which of these things is worse and I should ask him to stop doing in view of my kids:

- shooting and collecting guns
- reading extensively (good books even by my estimation)
- rock climbing
- cycling
- kayaking
- building and repairing things
- hobby metalsmithing and other related crafts
- literally always helping and looking out for his family, taking care of his parents, etc.

;)

My take on it is that I keep my children away from people, or not, based on the way they talk and behave - not based on information about their private sins and struggles which I happen to be privy to. I keep my children away from, like, 99% of people, gay or straight - but my brother is not one of them.

I think that if he ever has a "partner" to bring to family gatherings, I WOULD be innately suspicious of the partner (because to me that's a total stranger). Would definitely not allow the partner to be alone/unsupervised with the children ever. Would also not allow brother and partner to be with the children unsupervised, because even though I trust him, brother would not be an appropriate delegate for "supervising" his partner.

I would not worry about my kids ending up incidentally around just my brother unsupervised (like when we're all at my dad's house). Him wanting to take them out and do things has always been a nonexistent issue. He has never shown any interest in having or supervising or generally doing things with children. Like, at all. Ever.
You are gifted in rationale. Rationale will submit to God's rule, whether we like it or not. God's law is spiritual gravity and it has consequences, maybe not at first but when we least expect it. He tests those whom He loves by giving them choices of allegiance. Do we love Him more than our deepest affections? Biblical principles are there to guide us to His Sovereign will, and the byproduct is, we get blessed. If He didn't love you, you would care less over this choice. We are either for Him or against Him in every thing we think, say and do. If this was your last day, would you be in right standing with Him over this one choice? Ask Him. He will answer you.

An amazing testimony, of Sy Rogers, who was in the military, sought God after about a year or two, whilst living as a female hormonally, preparing for his gender surgery, when God answered him. An incredible speaker and many of his talks, etc are on youtube. He married, had a daughter, and then grandchildren too. This testimony will be worthwhile for you, to help you with coming to a better understanding of what God requires of you in this, and perfect for your brother to watch, God willing.
 
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DanielH

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From personal experience (a gay guy I knew from a small community in South America who then moved to the big city for college), this is not always true.
I would not worry about my kids ending up incidentally around just my brother unsupervised (like when we're all at my dad's house). Him wanting to take them out and do things has always been a nonexistent issue. He has never shown any interest in having or supervising or generally doing things with children. Like, at all. Ever.
  1. 28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: “Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
  2. 79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: “The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
  3. Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: “In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that “the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500.” In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., “A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men,” Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354.” (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
  4. 1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: “A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500-999, and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000-lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984.” (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
  5. There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females, 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources: Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, “Extramarital Sex,” 170. This is extracted from http://www.frc.org)

Given the above statistics on homosexuals (83% have had over 50 sexual partners) either your brother and the gay guy you know were statistical outliers or they keep it secret. If the risk is worth it to you, go ahead, bring your brother over. Society is trending more degenerate and among all of the normies I know, they're all much more liberal now than a few years ago. I hope it works out for you and there's no bad influence or worse.

Homosexuality literally is a transmissible mental illness, with 46% of gay men reporting being molested as children compared to 7% of straight men. I guarantee the remainder are gay from other sexuality in the culture such as pornography. If we cared for the health of our souls as much as we did our bodies, homosexuals would be kept very socially distanced from children, for the benefit of both. There's plenty of bible verses about not sharing company with wicked people.

1 Corinthians 5:13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

1 Corinthians 15:33 Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”

2 Timothy 3:1-5 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Maybe your brother really is abstinent with opposite sex attractions. I don't know, I can't speak to your situation.
 

Vigilant

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Woman
Politically, making sodomy legal was always going to be the forerunner of pedophilia, since at least the 50's if I remember correctly. If these demons are not stopped, our straight men, especially Christian men will be targeted, so that they can get to our children. Many attorneys are sodomites.

This is why I am on this forum, to encourage men to continue in their courage in protecting women and children.
Oh! They've already started targeting white, straight, and Christian men, through civil feminism, via feminist attorneys both male and female feminists, using divorce. Never involve the state in marriage, just like everything, except for...
 

Kitty Tantrum

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Woman
Homosexuality literally is a transmissible mental illness, with 46% of gay men reporting being molested as children compared to 7% of straight men. I guarantee the remainder are gay from other sexuality in the culture such as pornography. If we cared for the health of our souls as much as we did our bodies, homosexuals would be kept very socially distanced from children, for the benefit of both. There's plenty of bible verses about not sharing company with wicked people.
But is homosexuality transmissible by physical proximity? Do you think my children would "catch the gay" from repeated exposure to my brother while the family sits around a bonfire making s'mores and discussing Tolkien? Or if I elected to have him do a brief demo on firearm safety?

I do not believe that being around a family member (in a familial context) who sins privately is the same thing, or could be said to have the same influence, as being molested, or being exposed to sexual/deviant/sinful behaviors as an example to follow.

There are plenty of bible verses about how we are all afflicted by wickedness. Shunning your own flesh and blood for sins you would not know about if you didn't have the privilege of their confidence, when they treat you with the utmost respect, kindness, consideration, charity, etc. seems pretty wicked.
 

DanielH

Pelican
But is homosexuality transmissible by physical proximity? Do you think my children would "catch the gay" from repeated exposure to my brother while the family sits around a bonfire making s'mores and discussing Tolkien? Or if I elected to have him do a brief demo on firearm safety?

I do not believe that being around a family member (in a familial context) who sins privately is the same thing, or could be said to have the same influence, as being molested, or being exposed to sexual/deviant/sinful behaviors as an example to follow.

There are plenty of bible verses about how we are all afflicted by wickedness. Shunning your own flesh and blood for sins you would not know about if you didn't have the privilege of their confidence, when they treat you with the utmost respect, kindness, consideration, charity, etc. seems pretty wicked.
I don't know your exact situation. I don't know the guy, I made that clear in my last post. So your brother is a libertarian who likes guns. Okay? So does "Caitlyn" Jenner. If you didn't want to hear these answers or see the statistics you shouldn't have asked the following if you were just going to be offended:
I have a gay brother. Should I not let him spend time around my kids? He has never had a boyfriend that he wanted to introduce to the family, but if he does in the future, should I keep my children away from that whole situation? I mean, how far does that principle go and how far do you take it?

Do you make exceptions for family? Would it be a case-by-case basis?
You know, just statistically there's likely several men on this very thread who have been molested by homosexuals. I'm just urging caution, because tolerance is a slippery slope, and what will be asked of you tomorrow will be more than what is asked of you today, unless your brother repents.
 

get2choppaaa

Pelican
But is homosexuality transmissible by physical proximity? Do you think my children would "catch the gay" from repeated exposure to my brother while the family sits around a bonfire making s'mores and discussing Tolkien? Or if I elected to have him do a brief demo on firearm safety?

I do not believe that being around a family member (in a familial context) who sins privately is the same thing, or could be said to have the same influence, as being molested, or being exposed to sexual/deviant/sinful behaviors as an example to follow.

There are plenty of bible verses about how we are all afflicted by wickedness. Shunning your own flesh and blood for sins you would not know about if you didn't have the privilege of their confidence, when they treat you with the utmost respect, kindness, consideration, charity, etc. seems pretty wicked.
Where is the father to do these things with Tolkien/Guns/ect? Why are you electing to have these things go on? Does their father not approve of fire-arms? Is he not willing to do these things? If someone was teaching my kids fire-arm safety other than me I would be a little bit perturbed to say the least.

I am not saying don't have your brother be there in some capacity in their life, but if you abdicating or compromising their father's role in mentoring/training/ and leading the family, you are going to harm your children regardless of whomever the individual sins of the person in question. What is their father's take on all this?

As far as the comments in bold, I think you need to recognize, no-one is seeking your approval here. If you think there is no risk and that there is no homosexuality being communicated or acted upon or encouraged, i suppose you can look at it like he is family and this is fine. That is up to you... But for me... ZERO chance my kids would be left alone with someone I knew was gay. Male or female.

Dont read my comments as a personal attack, as this is how one could much of the criticism... just my observation as a father who deals with a crazy ex wife and the sorts of weird and inappropriate things that single mothers or mothers who are misguided but well meaning facilitate onto their children. Most men see abnormality or abhorrent behavior as a risk not worth getting into. Like I said about my homosexual friend: I would allow the kids to meet him, because like your brother he is a non-flamboyant mostly A sexual guy... who doesn't advocate for the globo homo goals for society and is pretty much in the closet.… But that is about it.
 

Vigilant

Woodpecker
Woman
I don't know your exact situation. I don't know the guy, I made that clear in my last post. So your brother is a libertarian who likes guns. Okay? So does "Caitlyn" Jenner. If you didn't want to hear these answers or see the statistics you shouldn't have asked the following if you were just going to be offended:

You know, just statistically there's likely several men on this very thread who have been molested by homosexuals. I'm just urging caution, because tolerance is a slippery slope, and what will be asked of you tomorrow will be more than what is asked of you today, unless your brother repents.
The most loving action to our neighbour is to love God first, and warning those who are in need of repentance, is in their best interests.
God's love is superior to our sentimentalism.
 
I do not believe that being around a family member (in a familial context) who sins privately is the same thing, or could be said to have the same influence, as being molested, or being exposed to sexual/deviant/sinful behaviors as an example to follow.

This is not directed at you individually, Kitty, but...

"90 percent of child sexual abuse victims know the perpetrator in some way; 68 percent are abused by family members."

Grooming can take place at family gatherings in subtle ways. Once the youth trusts the adult, they may attempt alone time without you being aware.
 

Kitty Tantrum

Woodpecker
Woman
The fact that people think I'm offended because I'm pressing them to consider a more principally and morally complex situation/different perspective than they have previously is funny. I am used to this - so let me be clear: I'm not offended and I'm not taking any of this personally.

So your brother is a libertarian who likes guns.
Libertarian? No. I'm used these assumptions as well, but I don't understand them. Do you think I mentioned that he likes guns because I think that will win him brownie points or negate that he's gay? No - the point is not that he has cool hobbies and the correct stance on gun control so whatever, to heck with the fact that he's gay. The point is that the only things my kids ever see him doing are not "gay" things. They are usually very constructive/valuable skill type things. That's all I was saying. :)

I know you don't know him. That's why I explained the situation. So that other people can consider, based on the assumption that the things I say are true, what they might do or how they might feel in a hypothetically similar situation.

Where is the father to do these things with Tolkien/Guns/ect? Why are you electing to have these things go on? Does their father not approve of fire-arms? Is he not willing to do these things? If someone was teaching my kids fire-arm safety other than me I would be a little bit perturbed to say the least.

I am not saying don't have your brother be there in some capacity in their life, but if you abdicating or compromising their father's role in mentoring/training/ and leading the family, you are going to harm your children regardless of whomever the individual sins of the person in question. What is their father's take on all this?
Well, first of all... even children who HAVE fathers who are very present in their lives... still spend time and do activities with their other family members, right? I'm talking about taking the kids out to grandma and grandpa's house occasionally for like, a family bonfire and s'mores and shooting soda cans -- does that really warrant a "WHERE IS THE FATHER?" Is that NOT a fairly normal thing that other families also do? :oops::hmm:

(In terms of firearms specifically, my brother is the only person in the immediate family who owns and shoots guns. The kids' father is not against guns, but he has less experience shooting than I do - which is not much, and FAR less interest. My husband (kids' stepdad) is competent to teach the basics but has not done any shooting in years. Both my kids' dad AND my husband now have independently suggested to me that my brother would be a valuable resource if I want the kids to learn the basics of gun safety, shooting, cleaning, maintenance, etc.)

I've written about my kids' father (my first husband) a bit elsewhere, but the quick rundown of that situation is that he'd be the worst influence in their lives most of the time, if he hadn't elected to moved hundreds of miles away several years ago. Their father provides a useful point of contrast in this conversation, because HE'S the person I worry about exposing the kids to sexual degeneracy. HE is the person who bragged openly to his family about doing something sexual with another dude, like, just a few years ago - for shock value and so he could accuse them of bigotry and intolerance when they didn't want to hear about it, I'm sure.

Do I get to keep the kids away from him? Nope. I can only allow him to be as voluntarily absent as he pleases, and help my boys to understand that many of the things their father seems proud of are things that actually hurt him. :(

(Please, also, don't assume that I have a personal stance of NEVER speaking to my brother about his sins, on principle, because I think that would be wrong or whatever. A lot of people DO feel that way, but this is not the case for me. What IS the case is that I have no business doing that at this point in time - not to mention no framework whatsoever for doing it. I have only barely begun to get my own feet going along the right path.)

Good thread, tho.
 

Vigilant

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Woman
The fact that people think I'm offended because I'm pressing them to consider a more principally and morally complex situation/different perspective than they have previously is funny. I am used to this - so let me be clear: I'm not offended and I'm not taking any of this personally.
:)
 

Kitty Tantrum

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Woman
This is not directed at you individually, Kitty, but...

"90 percent of child sexual abuse victims know the perpetrator in some way; 68 percent are abused by family members."

Grooming can take place at family gatherings in subtle ways. Once the youth trusts the adult, they may attempt alone time without you being aware.
You might not find a person who follows these statistics and trends more closely than I do! It is definitely important for people to bear in mind that a majority of perps are family. A lot of people project their own "normal revulsion" onto others and don't seem to understand that someone who wants to diddle a child is not going to have any qualms over the fact that they're related.

REALTALK:

I was sexually abused as a very young child, by an adult (who has no hint of identity in my vague memories). I understand personally and intimately the sorts of disorders that stem from this sort of trauma.

It has always seemed very likely to me that my older brother would have been similarly abused as well. It also seems likely that, where I only remember it vaguely, he does not remember at all. This is naturally part of what has constrained me from broaching the subject in any capacity with him so far.

But for those pointing out that homosexuality (and other forms of deviance/degeneracy) is statistically likely to have a basis in molestation or inappropriate exposure to sexuality in childhood... yep.

It is also true that many who are abused themselves go on to be perpetrators.

But it is also true that many do not. I did not. I went really far in the other direction and became paranoid/hyper-vigilant instead. I don't trust my brother blindly because he is my brother, I trust him (in the limited capacities I have described) because personal experience and extensive research have taught me what to consider and what to watch for.

I'll offer this up: a lot of parents are tempted to send their kids to relatives' houses or friends' houses that might not otherwise be a "first choice," because it is a convenient way to "catch a break" as a parent. Their kids get to "hang out" and they get kid-free time! Don't do this. It is a trap. Even if they are straight.
 

Vigilant

Woodpecker
Woman
I'll offer this up: a lot of parents are tempted to send their kids to relatives' houses or friends' houses that might not otherwise be a "first choice," because it is a convenient way to "catch a break" as a parent. Their kids get to "hang out" and they get kid-free time! Don't do this. It is a trap. Even if they are straight.
Agreed. In a hyper-wicked society, hyper-vigilance is in order.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
@Kitty Tantrum, I pretty much agree with you about trusting your brother around your kids (assuming your description of him is accurate). Maybe I would say don't let him be alone with them, but then again I don't know him personally and I also have no children. So you can obviously judge the situation better than me.

That being said, it is certainly true that the private sins of parents/caretakers affect children even if the children are not explicitly aware that something is wrong.

For example, if a child's parents are constantly cheating on each other but they hide it well and pretend to love each other, it will still negatively affect the children.

Demons can be passed down through the generations. Also, in general, one's demons tend to affect not just oneself but also those who one interacts with on a daily basis.
 
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