Which are the best dating apps for finding a wife in Europe or Asia?

jcrew247

Kingfisher
I've been downloading a couple of dating apps and it seems a few new ones have sprouted out in France and Germany. What do you think are the best apps for finding a wife in Europe, Russia, or Asia? I don't really trust the Russian sites, but it seems that Elenas models have an anti-scammer policy so they are the safest. I've been trying out Badoo and they seem popular in Eastern Europe and Poland, as well as in Asia. It seems like dating apps fizzle out quickly or get very few users besides obvious nigerian fake scammers. Every couple of months there is a new app that promises the latest thing to solve dating issues, but the truth is that if you make an app too complicated, then no one will use it including women. The best apps have to sustain traffic and not be creepy to scare away women. However, some of the wealthy men apps attract more women but they are more likely money-driven golddiggers looking to marry a rich guy just for their money instead of true love. I don't think there are many popular catholic dating apps besides eHarmony. Has anyone actually found a wife or LTR from any of these dating apps?
 
jcrew247 said:
I've been downloading a couple of dating apps and it seems a few new ones have sprouted out in France and Germany. What do you think are the best apps for finding a wife in Europe, Russia, or Asia? I don't really trust the Russian sites, but it seems that Elenas models have an anti-scammer policy so they are the safest. I've been trying out Badoo and they seem popular in Eastern Europe and Poland, as well as in Asia. It seems like dating apps fizzle out quickly or get very few users besides obvious nigerian fake scammers. Every couple of months there is a new app that promises the latest thing to solve dating issues, but the truth is that if you make an app too complicated, then no one will use it including women. The best apps have to sustain traffic and not be creepy to scare away women. However, some of the wealthy men apps attract more women but they are more likely money-driven golddiggers looking to marry a rich guy just for their money instead of true love. I don't think there are many popular catholic dating apps besides eHarmony. Has anyone actually found a wife or LTR from any of these dating apps?

in regards to finding girls in Russia I would stay away from the mail order bride websites alltogether. Russian hearts is a decent site, many real girls there. Mamba.ru has some pros looking for a client but also many real girls. Badoo is not too bad as well as vk.com which is a social network like facebook. also you can language learning apps like italki or hellotalk
 

La Águila Negra

Kingfisher
This is just ridiculous

Mate, nothing good comes from dating apps. If you are looking for marriage or even something serious at least.

The only hard indicator of a successful and longlasting marriage has been notch count. I haven't been able to find any other indicators that trump the notch count statistic. In case you didn't know, just look for it online. Marriages wherein the woman is a virgin are destined to prosper and last, marriages wherein the woman has had many different sex partners before are doomed to fail

So when looking for a wife you'd ideally want a woman that has 1. A low notch count and 2. An assessment of her SMV that is in accordance with reality (and preferably a bit lower than yours).

Both of these conditions that are trashed by dating apps. This is common knowledge by now. Thirsty guys bombard even landwhales with messages how beautiful she is. Please don't believe her whenever she's on Tinder and tells you that she's still a virgin. You gotta be a little more streetwise than that.

The thirst is so huge that even non- dating apps are now seeing the thirst spill over. Reddit has become a pseudo pornsite. Instagram went from a photo social media sharing app to a hot women veneration app. Hello Talk once was a language learning app but is now a place where thirsty men try to score a foreign girlfriend. Apparantly even talking to a girl gets them going.

You see what that does to a girl's self esteem, expectations and entitlement?
 
I feel like an old man but Ive never used dating apps. I would use dating websites, come home after work and write messages. All the websites I described have a high percentage of genuine girls but there are of course some pros or scammers. I would use dating sites as a tool that helps you find some girls to talk to but in order to actually find a wife you really have to move to their country and spend some time there, go on dates. online conversations with different chicks will prepare you for whats awaiting you in a particular country and let you know how big your chances are. but to actually find a girl youll have to travel there. years ago I would talk to Russian chicks on vk.om that had real detailed accounts and I would videochat with them. Couchsurfing is also a nice way to connect with girls that are potentially interested in a foreigner. But no dating app will help you find a wife and get her delivered to america like an amazon delivery. its just a tool to help you test the waters.
 

MajorStyles

Pelican
Rob Banks said:
I wouldn't recommend any dating apps for finding a wife.

It's like going to a bar or club to try and find a wife.

It's just another way to meet a woman. And like all methods, there are more duds than winners. I wouldn't hang all my hopes on it but, by the same token, I would not dismiss it entirely.
 
I agree with avoiding dating apps, as difficult as it is. Beyond the obvious, I have realised these are the two main reasons for this (especially when looking for something long-lasting):

1. The process of meeting online, especially from a girl's POV, is very robotic, unromantic, and subconsciously "easily replaced". It has no special meaning. This does not bode well for a prospect future wife. Foundations are important. A chance meeting in-person always holds more value to the people involved. I personally have experienced this every time: in person there's a higher feeling of chemistry, excitement, and respect, from both sides. Both are simply more inclined to "continue" and put effort in, because there's more value to the relationship.

2. She will be less attracted to you at a base level. You are subconsciously displaying low value to her, no matter what logical reasoning we may try to apply to using dating apps. I believe that there is a small level of disrespect that is held for men using them. Again, from personal experience, most displays of extreme/overt attraction that I have experienced towards me have been women I've met randomly in person. Women from dating apps tend to have less respect towards you on average. The power balance is in their favour from the start. Also, how can you really spark a girl's feelings by presenting to her pixels on a screen? Women are less visual and rely more on a man's confidence, charisma, for attraction.

So, how to find something meaningful in person?

Go out, be social, meet people. Go to events, try new hobbies, go to meetups. Slowly build a social network. In 2020, by simply not being buried in our phones, we are already in the top 20%. If you're a foreigner then it is extremely easy to do this. Perhaps get in contact with "English speaking" groups and offer to show up. It's amazing what can happen by just going out and doing things. I'm slightly more introverted so I understand the difficulty, but it is better to accept the facts and just do it. Going with a friend fixes this problem a lot of the time.
 

nicolahcm

Pigeon
I would also suggest to avoid dating apps.
I am going to talk for my personal experience. Though I don't exclude that someone else could be lucky and find a wife through dating apps. I think it also depends from person to person. As me I realized that I won't be able, or chanches are very slim.

1) Even if a girl answers you, know that meanwhile she is chatting with at least other 5 males at the same time.
How can she judge you? She has no elements for judging but only photos of you. Do you really want a girl liking you only from phoyos?
She surely could judge you from what you write, but do you think does it have any value?

I was chatting with several girls. With a girl I've been chatting a long time. Most of the times it is going to be you the one who has to keep the chat alive. After long time of chatting I asked her out. It was meaningless for me keep chatting. I didn't feel any urge or any input to do so. There was no "spiritual" interest. I couldn't even see her real answers, which consists of seeing her reactions face to face. I felt that it could be with her as any other girl.
She politely declined saying she wants to chat long time before meeting in real life, and only if she will feel the urge.
"Only if both still feel the urge". These were her words, but technically she meant: "Only if I still feel the urge".

This told me a lot. Basically she wanted me to do all the work. Without any sure chance of getting her. Doing the hard work for her as could be for any other girl.

But what if you succeed? What if she will go out with you after a long period ? Well, if you've been lucky enough to reach this point, she will consider normal for you to keep doing all the hard work to keep her interested. She won't have to do anything for you.
By keep going, you subtly accepted this. And she knows it.
Will you have the energies to keep going on like this? Even if you have the energies, will be that worth???

Well, I kept trying to talk to her a little, but her answers were very small and I always had to engine myself with something new to discuss with. After a while I left.
She never looked for me again. (Sure because meanwhile she had at least 10 other boys texting her).


2) Even if she is an ugly girl she is going to have tons of boys texting to her. I once was texting to an ugly girl on Tinder. Surprisingly we talked. After 2 days she ghosted me. Sure she had tons of other boys.


Sometimes I feel it tough being lonely. In these times I was always: let's give it a more try, who knows. But I stopped. It's not worth, and anyways it doesn't make me feel slightly better.



But this is for me. Who knows you could be lucky.
 
nicolahcm said:
I would also suggest to avoid dating apps.
I am going to talk for my personal experience. Though I don't exclude that someone else could be lucky and find a wife through dating apps. I think it also depends from person to person. As me I realized that I won't be able, or chanches are very slim.

1) Even if a girl answers you, know that meanwhile she is chatting with at least other 5 males at the same time.
I was chatting with several girls. With a girl I've been chatting a long time. Most of the times it is going to be you the one who has to keep the chat alive. After long time of chatting I asked her out. It was meaningless for me keep chatting. I didn't feel any urge or any input to do so. There was no "spiritual" interest. I couldn't even see her real answers, which consists of seeing her reactions face to face. I felt that it could be with her as any other girl.
She politely declined saying she wants to chat long time before meeting in real life, and only if she will feel the urge.
"Only if both still feel the urge". These were her words, but technically she meant: "Only if I still feel the urge".
This told me a lot. Basically she wanted me to do all the work. Without any sure chance of getting her. Doing the hard work for her as could be for any other girl.
But what if you succeed? What if she will go out with you after a long period ? Well, if you've been lucky enough to reach this point, she will consider normal for you to keep doing all the hard work to keep her interested. She won't have to do anything for you.
By keep going, you subtly accepted this. And she knows it.
She never looked for me again. (Sure because meanwhile she had at least 10 other boys texting her).
2) Even if she is an ugly girl she is going to have tons of boys texting to her. I once was texting to an ugly girl on Tinder. Surprisingly we talked. After 2 days she ghosted me. Sure she had tons of other boys.
Sometimes I feel it tough being lonely. In these times I was always: let's give it a more try, who knows. But I stopped. It's not worth, and anyways it doesn't make me feel slightly better.
But this is for me. Who knows you could be lucky.

you re probably talking about chatting with American girls on twitter where there are many thirsty males who bombard them with messages. OP was asking about potential conversations with foreign women who might be a lot more interested and he would get way more attention.

Like I said I personally dont use apps even Twitter. But many western men I know tell me that changing your twitter location to Thailand or Russia or Ukraine or lets say Colombia gives you way more matches in comparison to USA. OP can just change his twitter location to a foreign EE or Asian country and see what results he can get. That will give him a feeling of how much attention he can get in those ecountries potentially. But of course he cant take these girls on a date obviously. If anything dating websites are more effective when it comes to making contact with foreign women.

But eventually its all just a warm up. If a guy really wants to find a foreign girlfriend hell have to move to her country. And even there he can use whatever dating site or app he wants just to meet some new girls, but no app will get him a wife. Still if OP moves to Philippines Im pretty sure he ll have women on his arm very soon without much effort.
 

nicolahcm

Pigeon
RobertBryce said:
you re probably talking about chatting with American girls on twitter where there are many thirsty males who bombard them with messages. OP was asking about potential conversations with foreign women who might be a lot more interested and he would get way more attention.

Not talking about american girls. I am talking about sweden and italy. But some girls I chatted with weren't originally from sweden and italy. For example from south america also.

Perhaps it could be different in asia. But I cannot say since I never tried.
 
nicolahcm said:
Not talking about american girls. I am talking about sweden and italy. But some girls I chatted with weren't originally from sweden and italy. For example from south america also.
Perhaps it could be different in asia. But I cannot say since I never tried.

italian and swedish chicks are even more spoiled then American girls. Try changing your twitter location to Kiev or Pattaya or Panglao/ Manila. I definetely do not promise you wonders or a wife, but it will boost your self esteem. Also you could try asiancupid, philippino cupid or smth like that (Ive never tried these two sites myself though, I m not into asian chicks plus Im not single anymore). Come back and tell us how it was and whether the girls were more responsive
 

Lian

Pigeon
Gold Member
Which is the best bleach brand for making oatmeal?

In seriousness, the comments on this thread are spot on. It's a mismatch of purpose.

I no longer casually date, but when I did I went on literally countless "dates" and "more," and there is one girl I can think of, one, who went in the "could this be long term?" box. She was 20 (I was 31), sweet, attractive, had been with one guy and bitterly regretted it, wanted to be a wife and mother, and had the so-called "happy gene." She had just signed up for the app.

Due to a vastly different culture/language/etc, me moving, plus that being with one guy did bother me, I ultimately didn't see a future for it, and she was heartbroken. I still feel awful about it. And I'm pretty sure she deleted the app right after. But I digress.

A close friend of mine is currently going down this "app" road, we're both single and we speak about it fairly often, and as we all know it's tough out there. I'm just trying to be a good sounding board; the stories are always amusing.

(He's currently gone on a few dates with a 30 year old doctor who is "sweet, Christian, shy" etc... he said he's gone for the kiss a couple times and she turned him away, at first he wasn't sure whether she liked him but then he figured out she's "just shy" "traditional" etc. No, no, NO! No games from ex-sloots or Churchian clock-panickers. I want to slap him as my red flag detector is going off, but I leave it alone because I know he'll eventually figure out what an unmitigated disaster the whole app dating thing is and drop it entirely.)

La Águila Negra said:
This is just ridiculous

Mate, nothing good comes from dating apps. If you are looking for marriage or even something serious at least.

The only hard indicator of a successful and longlasting marriage has been notch count. I haven't been able to find any other indicators that trump the notch count statistic. In case you didn't know, just look for it online. Marriages wherein the woman is a virgin are destined to prosper and last, marriages wherein the woman has had many different sex partners before are doomed to fail

So when looking for a wife you'd ideally want a woman that has 1. A low notch count and 2. An assessment of her SMV that is in accordance with reality (and preferably a bit lower than yours).

Both of these conditions that are trashed by dating apps. This is common knowledge by now. Thirsty guys bombard even landwhales with messages how beautiful she is. Please don't believe her whenever she's on Tinder and tells you that she's still a virgin. You gotta be a little more streetwise than that.

The thirst is so huge that even non- dating apps are now seeing the thirst spill over. Reddit has become a pseudo pornsite. Instagram went from a photo social media sharing app to a hot women veneration app. Hello Talk once was a language learning app but is now a place where thirsty men try to score a foreign girlfriend. Apparantly even talking to a girl gets them going.

You see what that does to a girl's self esteem, expectations and entitlement?

This.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Yes you need to refocus from dating to your true goal which is making a match.

This is an activity as old as time. Royals, Hebrews, churches, Chinese and even Indian where every parent carries a copy of their Son or Daughters Dara sheet for their future prospective in laws.

I always worked in Male Dominated fields nuclear submarines and data centers/IT shops with very few women and no attractive ones. Plus when I would mingle for some reason I was a magnet for exaggerated Jessica Rabbit types but with bosoms bigger than basketballs and I would think to myself this ain't gonna do my future daughters would never forgive me.

My woman has to be slim trim pleasant wife material so what is a decent yet affordable matchmaking solution with EE and Latam women truly looking for one good man?

I like this US Arizona based site with decent BBB Ratings...

https://www.loveme.com/mp/info344.htm

For example famous for tours... Still have to filter scammers and any BPD-psych issues but these are mostly ladies looking for a good match Like anything a matchmaking tours and socials site will be what you make of it.

I am working to be able to work independently both in the USA and in EE and keep her and future kids there so they are not corrupted by the angry SJW gangsta hip-hop globo-transhomo culture over here. I would of course work to get them dual passports and financial reserves so each culture can be the SHTF backup to the other.

Make a realistic match plan and work it!
 
La Águila Negra said:
This is just ridiculous

Mate, nothing good comes from dating apps. If you are looking for marriage or even something serious at least.

The only hard indicator of a successful and longlasting marriage has been notch count. I haven't been able to find any other indicators that trump the notch count statistic. In case you didn't know, just look for it online. Marriages wherein the woman is a virgin are destined to prosper and last, marriages wherein the woman has had many different sex partners before are doomed to fail

So when looking for a wife you'd ideally want a woman that has 1. A low notch count and 2. An assessment of her SMV that is in accordance with reality (and preferably a bit lower than yours).

Both of these conditions that are trashed by dating apps. This is common knowledge by now. Thirsty guys bombard even landwhales with messages how beautiful she is. Please don't believe her whenever she's on Tinder and tells you that she's still a virgin. You gotta be a little more streetwise than that.

The thirst is so huge that even non- dating apps are now seeing the thirst spill over. Reddit has become a pseudo pornsite. Instagram went from a photo social media sharing app to a hot women veneration app. Hello Talk once was a language learning app but is now a place where thirsty men try to score a foreign girlfriend. Apparantly even talking to a girl gets them going.

You see what that does to a girl's self esteem, expectations and entitlement?

Way too many girls on dating apps to say none of them can be good material for a wife. For many people going to a bar is just a social event with friends or something, not everyone is going there to get laid or have fun with other guys, even if most guys here likes to believe that. Your regular girl who goes to church every Sunday is also on dating apps, and she even goes to a bar sometimes!

Now, I agree that most girls there aren't worth the time when it comes to being serious with them. But its possible to get lucky and find a serious girl there.

It's not all that black and white like you think. Believing all girls on a dating app has been with multiple men.. Come on dude. Maybe things are different in all the English speaking countries where men are desperate for these landwhales.
 
Deepdiver said:
My woman has to be slim trim pleasant wife material so what is a decent yet affordable matchmaking solution with EE and Latam women truly looking for one good man?

I like this US Arizona based site with decent BBB Ratings...

https://www.loveme.com/mp/info344.htm

For example famous for tours... Still have to filter scammers and any BPD-psych issues but these are mostly ladies looking for a good match Like anything a matchmaking tours and socials site will be what you make of it.

I am working to be able to work independently both in the USA and in EE and keep her and future kids there so they are not corrupted by the angry SJW gangsta hip-hop globo-transhomo culture over here. I would of course work to get them dual passports and financial reserves so each culture can be the SHTF backup to the other.

Make a realistic match plan and work it!

Dude... as someone whos been living in Russia for 6 years and engaged to a great Russian girl Ill tell you this... dont use any EE site that offers "bride tours" to any EE countries especially Ukraine. Theyll screw you over. The only way to find a EE wife is buy going there and living there long term. Ive shared some info on this thread what more reliable websites you can use just to talk to EE girls and here is a separate thread on Russian women:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74692.html

just dont use any mf marriage tours... only the most desperate trashy whores will be there.. no dignified Russian woman with self respect will use that tour
 

Rush87

Ostrich
None. Dating apps are trash. They go against nature. We see hundreds of women per day. Our natural biology filters out the ones we like and the ones we don't. When you see someone you like, you know it. Your best 'app' is approaching women you're attracted to and asking them out. Going on a dating app is just passively 'hoping' for a date with a girl who may or may not look like the photo's she's put up, and may or may not be as interesting as her well thought out bio suggests. Ditch the apps and do what men have been doing for 99.9% of human history.​
 
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