Which are the best dating apps for finding a wife in Europe or Asia?

La Águila Negra

Kingfisher
Way too many girls on dating apps to say none of them can be good material for a wife. For many people going to a bar is just a social event with friends or something, not everyone is going there to get laid or have fun with other guys, even if most guys here likes to believe that. Your regular girl who goes to church every Sunday is also on dating apps, and she even goes to a bar sometimes!

Now, I agree that most girls there aren't worth the time when it comes to being serious with them. But its possible to get lucky and find a serious girl there.

It's not all that black and white like you think. Believing all girls on a dating app has been with multiple men.. Come on dude. Maybe things are different in all the English speaking countries where men are desperate for these landwhales

I don't t think you got my point.

You shouldn't take everything said at face value. Lots of it is style figures or exaggerations to hammer a point home. When I say there are no good girls on dating apps I don't mean that there are none at all. What I am saying that is that there are so few that it's a bad investment of time energy and possibly resources.

Let's say there are 30 million girls on dating apps in the States. If you think that by finding only one virgin amongst them you prove yourself right you are delusional. One could also say that there are 10, 1000 or 100 000 virgins / low notch count women active. Even with that last number it's still a waste of time

About your comments that good church girls attend bars and are active on dating apps too, I don't know what you have in mind there. Some lowkey Christian-only dating site? If you are talking about Tinder, OK Cupid, Bumble etc you are miles off
 
So just say there are so few good girls on a dating app that's in not worth it then? Regular people is also on dating apps and they go to bars. But just believe that almost every girl on a dating app has a high notch number,if you want that. Sounds to me like most guys here haven't been outside the US or some country like that. You can find church girls on Tinder, you probably just matched the slutty ones.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
↑ If they were really "good girls," they would not be on Tinder or dating apps. Why would a truly good girl be using an app designed for finding strangers to have sex with (regardless of whether it is for one-night stands like Tinder or for "relationships" like eHarmony)?

By the same token, truly good girls won't be in bars, or if they are in bars, they are just there with their friends and not open to meeting men to have sex with.

Good girls are probably not going to be meeting men outside of their church circles and family friends.

You might be able to find a "not-so-bad" girl on a dating app (i.e. "only" been with 5 guys, has long hair, wants children someday, etc.), but she is still going to have a transactional approach to men and dating. Dating apps (and singles bars, nightclubs, etc.), are, by their nature, transactional.
 

Rush87

Ostrich
La Águila Negra said:
This is just ridiculous

Mate, nothing good comes from dating apps. If you are looking for marriage or even something serious at least.

The only hard indicator of a successful and longlasting marriage has been notch count.
I haven't been able to find any other indicators that trump the notch count statistic. In case you didn't know, just look for it online. Marriages wherein the woman is a virgin are destined to prosper and last, marriages wherein the woman has had many different sex partners before are doomed to fail

So when looking for a wife you'd ideally want a woman that has 1. A low notch count and 2. An assessment of her SMV that is in accordance with reality (and preferably a bit lower than yours).

Both of these conditions that are trashed by dating apps. This is common knowledge by now. Thirsty guys bombard even landwhales with messages how beautiful she is. Please don't believe her whenever she's on Tinder and tells you that she's still a virgin. You gotta be a little more streetwise than that.

The thirst is so huge that even non- dating apps are now seeing the thirst spill over. Reddit has become a pseudo pornsite. Instagram went from a photo social media sharing app to a hot women veneration app. Hello Talk once was a language learning app but is now a place where thirsty men try to score a foreign girlfriend. Apparantly even talking to a girl gets them going.

You see what that does to a girl's self esteem, expectations and entitlement?

I think moral compass > notch count is more relevant in today's society, and if it isn't, then there's not much point dwelling on it. Women are malleable, and are molded by the men who lead them. A 21yr old virgin in the suburbs may be a high notch count woman the city. In fact, almost all women could have a high notch count depending on circumstance. Especially in an age where male guidance is weak, if not non existent.

That said, using notch count as a base for marriage is a good tick in the plus column, but will leave many men high and dry if it's weighted too heavily.

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Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
RobertBryce said:
Deepdiver said:
My woman has to be slim trim pleasant wife material so what is a decent yet affordable matchmaking solution with EE and Latam women truly looking for one good man?

I like this US Arizona based site with decent BBB Ratings...

https://www.loveme.com/mp/info344.htm

For example famous for tours... Still have to filter scammers and any BPD-psych issues but these are mostly ladies looking for a good match Like anything a matchmaking tours and socials site will be what you make of it.

I am working to be able to work independently both in the USA and in EE and keep her and future kids there so they are not corrupted by the angry SJW gangsta hip-hop globo-transhomo culture over here. I would of course work to get them dual passports and financial reserves so each culture can be the SHTF backup to the other.

Make a realistic match plan and work it!

Dude... as someone whos been living in Russia for 6 years and engaged to a great Russian girl Ill tell you this... dont use any EE site that offers "bride tours" to any EE countries especially Ukraine. Theyll screw you over. The only way to find a EE wife is buy going there and living there long term. Ive shared some info on this thread what more reliable websites you can use just to talk to EE girls and here is a separate thread on Russian women:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74692.html

just dont use any mf marriage tours... only the most desperate trashy whores will be there.. no dignified Russian woman with self respect will use that tour

The broader the statement the narrower the mind.

Not everyone can uproot their lives to teach English in 2nd tier cities while learning native Russian. Therefore fairly reputable match making services that offer a guided tour that minimizes the many scams we all are aware of is a useful second option.

To broadly sweep thousands of educated higher IQ attractive women in Ukraine looking for a traditional marriage partner as trashy whores as well as Russian and Belarus Ladies is harsh to say the least.

This service filters the wheat from the chaffe it is the up to your common sense to detect sincere women from trashy gold digging whores.


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La Águila Negra

Kingfisher
So just say there are so few good girls on a dating app that's in not worth it then? Regular people is also on dating apps and they go to bars. But just believe that almost every girl on a dating app has a high notch number,if you want that. Sounds to me like most guys here haven't been outside the US or some country like that. You can find church girls on Tinder, you probably just matched the slutty ones.

Virgin church girls on tinder, when I thought I heard it all

Playa you got played mate!
 

La Águila Negra

Kingfisher
I think moral compass > notch count is more relevant in today's society, and if it isn't, then there's not much point dwelling on it. Women are malleable, and are molded by the men who lead them. A 21yr old virgin in the suburbs may be a high notch count woman the city. In fact, almost all women could have a high notch count depending on circumstance. Especially in an age where male guidance is weak, if not non existent.

That said, using notch count as a base for marriage is a good tick in the plus column, but will leave many men high and dry if it's weighted too heavily.

I was thinking of another chart when writing that comment. It shows the percentage of marriages that end in divorce broken down by the number of the female's sexual partners after 15 years. When the women is a virgin the marriage has a 90+ percent chance of succeeding, and then you see that amount gradually drop per cohort. When a women has had more than 20 sexual partners the chances of having a successful marriage is around 10 percent if I recall it correctly

Can't find that chart, it has been posted on RVF several times though
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
La Águila Negra said:
So just say there are so few good girls on a dating app that's in not worth it then? Regular people is also on dating apps and they go to bars. But just believe that almost every girl on a dating app has a high notch number,if you want that. Sounds to me like most guys here haven't been outside the US or some country like that. You can find church girls on Tinder, you probably just matched the slutty ones.

Virgin church girls on tinder, when I thought I heard it all

Playa you got played mate!

Thanks a lot player now I am definitely going to burn in hell much longer than I would have for laughing so damn hard at your Virgin Tinder sloes quip...


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I went to a religious school for 10 years, many of the students were religious, some were not or was in the grey zone. I have seen many of the girls who I went to school with later on Tinder, and they are still hanging within this religious community from my school, the same happened at other religious schools close to me. Maybe it only happened where I lived and no other places on this planet :) Or these girls don't wanna match with the selfie guy on Tinder who believes all girls on Tinder is some kind of slut, they can sense the prejudice in you..
 
Yes, the culture degraded, communities did too as more people went to big cities, and all of the above (including men progressively not caring or forgetting what their times were like when shit worked) led to a lot of "just show up on Sunday" where you have a pseudo community, even if it is great generally and has a solid life otherwise. We in the West just have too much of this go on Sunday and then forget about it to a large extent for the rest of the week/daily life, it's a major cultural issue and evolutionary one at that, since we evolved for the town be protective and an overseer with matching and surveillance built in to survival.

I think the religious part has to be also with strong parental guidance and expectation, that is the best combo for avoiding the social issues and stigma regarding divorce. Men always need to lead first, and women need to be formed and follow, as is stated above. Otherwise, the chaos we see starts coming out of Pandora's box.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
KingKrule said:
I went to a religious school for 10 years, many of the students were religious, some were not or was in the grey zone. I have seen many of the girls who I went to school with later on Tinder, and they are still hanging within this religious community from my school, the same happened at other religious schools close to me. Maybe it only happened where I lived and no other places on this planet :) Or these girls don't wanna match with the selfie guy on Tinder who believes all girls on Tinder is some kind of slut, they can sense the prejudice in you..

First of all, what? Is English not your first language?

I don't want to be rude if English really isn't your first language, but if that's the case, I would recommend getting someone to proofread your posts or using Google Translate until your English gets better. I can barely understand what you wrote (except that you believe good, religious girls use Tinder and anyone who disagrees is just being "prejudiced").

Second of all, apparently no one is going to change your mind, so good luck finding that traditional, faithful wife on Tinder. Let me know how that works out for you.
 
Rob Banks said:
KingKrule said:
I went to a religious school for 10 years, many of the students were religious, some were not or was in the grey zone. I have seen many of the girls who I went to school with later on Tinder, and they are still hanging within this religious community from my school, the same happened at other religious schools close to me. Maybe it only happened where I lived and no other places on this planet :) Or these girls don't wanna match with the selfie guy on Tinder who believes all girls on Tinder is some kind of slut, they can sense the prejudice in you..

First of all, what? Is English not your first language?

I don't want to be rude if English really isn't your first language, but if that's the case, I would recommend getting someone to proofread your posts or using Google Translate until your English gets better. I can barely understand what you wrote (except that you believe good, religious girls use Tinder and anyone who disagrees is just being "prejudiced").

Second of all, apparently no one is going to change your mind, so good luck finding that traditional, faithful wife on Tinder. Let me know how that works out for you.

Sorry if the post was a bit messy, I agree that it was.

Good luck to me? I never wrote that I wanted a traditional wife, I don't want a wife at all now or in the near future. I guess you can do some work on your English as well.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
↑ If you don't want a wife at all then that's your business, but you are trying to convince other guys that they can find a good wife on Tinder.

And if you weren't implying that men could use Tinder to find a wife, then what were you saying? That men could use Tinder to find "good girls" for something other than marriage (i.e casual relationships/fornication)? That's even worse.

But I guess the fact that me and others are saying this makes this an "incel forum."
 
Since you didn't get it, I'm trying to say that girls on Tinder don't necessarily have a high notch number, and a girl you see in a bar doesn't need to have a high notch number because she is in a bar. Normal people go to a bar and normal people are on dating apps/tinder. Normal people doesn't need to have a high notch number. Someone's recipe for a successful marriage was to be with a girl with a low notch number. This is what I believe atleast. You get my point now? Or is it too crazy that some virgin girls or close to it are going to a bar or made some stupid account on a dating app? Not every girl is flashing their asses there.

No need to start with the "Yeah, just believe every girl from Tinder or a bar, when they tell that you are the second guy she's been with" Please.
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
KingKrule said:
..."Yeah, just believe every girl from Tinder or a bar, when they tell that you are the second guy she's been with"...

This.

Also, low notch count isn't the only thing that matters when it comes to marriage. Roosh put it well in one of his recent articles when he said you should look for a woman who is "a virgin who worships God and shuns pre-marital sex (or a repentant woman who has confessed her past sexual mistakes)."

There's a reason Roosh didn't just say "look for a woman with a low notch count."

The types of girls who fit those criteria (virgin who worships God or repentant woman who confessed her sexual mistakes) are not going to be in bars or on dating apps looking for sexual relationships.
 
This what?

Okeeeey, if your gonna go down that road with " but, but, it's not ALL about notch count" after people here clearly stated that this was the most important thing, then go ahead,ofcourse it's not all about notch count, dude. Go quote something from Roosh since he clearly figured it out,oh wait.

How do you know "all" girls in bars/ dating apps is looking for a sexual relationship?

Look for "a virgin who worships god", this is just ridiculous
 

Rob Banks

Pelican
Are you seriously arguing that all girls on dating apps (such as Tinder) are not looking for sexual relationships?

What are they looking for, platonic friendships with random men?

And if they aren't looking for sexual relationships, what exactly are you trying to get from talking to them?
 
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