Which group is responsible for the predicament that Western Civilization finds itself

[911]

The American empire that would have been set up by the likes of Patton and Kennedy would have fit the bill. This current empire, the making of PNAC, AIPAC, IMF, CFR and their ilk is a lot closer to the world's nightmare than its best hope.

 

[MrLemon]

The American empire that would have been set up by the likes of Patton and Kennedy would have fit the bill. This current empire, the making of PNAC, AIPAC, IMF, CFR and their ilk is a lot closer to the world's nightmare than its best hope.

The American empire was set up by Patton, Kennedy, and the like. That lasted about 40 years (post WW2 till 80s). Then after the baby boomers started taking over in the 1980s the American empire began changing and going sour. Like I said.

Here's the lessoin: things change. They don't stay stagnant the same way. Read history, it will help with the understanding of the ebbs and flows of society.

And, still you must always answer the question: what alternative do you propose? China? Russia? If you don't have an alternative, then pissing and moaning about the American empire is just pissing and moaning.

 

[911]

Your interpretation of modern history is pretty shallow. Patton would have snipped the Soviet empire in the bud. Instead he was eliminated. Kennedy's vision of the American empire was also greatly different from the one we got after he was eliminated by the deep state.

You might benefit from reading history from Quigley, Sutton or Perkins instead of Boomer best-sellers. "Things change!" or "shit happens" seems like shallow take on history. Also shallow are false binaries, the notion that we're either going to get the PNAC empire or the ChiCom reeducation camp.

 

[yeppels]

wisdom that showed how each individual can connect to the divine directly and installed a universal cult of priesthood. From this point on nearly all the people are dependent on "teachers" and "scriptures" to understand what is true and what is not and are incapable of beholding the truth on their own by uniting with God/nature.

I've been doing a lot of reading about the origins of Buddhism/Taoism, before they became organized religions and were more philosophical, and this message in particular resonates with that philosophy.

Through self study and training, we are all capable of spiritual salvation through our innate biology and environment. However, this is difficult. Very difficult, and for most people, impossible, as it requires the ability to accurately self-reflect, admit ones own faults, and in general be willing to change one's own behavior on a much deeper level that most people are comfortable with. These abilities can be taught, but again through dedicated practice, and without having to resort to any kind of external God.

Unfortunately in order for millions of people with different cultural backgrounds, languages, and traditions, to come together and live in peace, requires a shared narrative and removal of individual responsibility, hence organized religion.

 

[MrLemon]

Your interpretation of modern history is pretty shallow. Patton would have snipped the Soviet empire in the bud. Instead he was eliminated. Kennedy's vision of the American empire was also greatly different from the one we got after he was eliminated by the deep state.

You might benefit from reading history from Quigley, Sutton or Perkins instead of Boomer best-sellers. "Things change!" or "shit happens" seems like shallow take on history. Also shallow are false binaries, the notion that we're either going to get the PNAC empire or the ChiCom reeducation camp.

You still didn't answer the question. What's your alternative to America?

 

[Rotten]

I think that the loss of an entire generation of alpha males in WW2 is mostly to blame.

The weak men that followed, and their progeny weren’t up to the task.

 

[Enoch]

I think that the loss of an entire generation of alpha males in WW2 is mostly to blame.

The weak men that followed, and their progeny weren’t up to the task.

For smaller. now uber cucked countries like Germany that theory is particularly relevant.

 

[loremipsum]

Except Sweden did not fight in world wars and yet it is the capital of cucksters.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

Your interpretation of modern history is pretty shallow. Patton would have snipped the Soviet empire in the bud. Instead he was eliminated. Kennedy's vision of the American empire was also greatly different from the one we got after he was eliminated by the deep state.

You might benefit from reading history from Quigley, Sutton or Perkins instead of Boomer best-sellers. "Things change!" or "shit happens" seems like shallow take on history. Also shallow are false binaries, the notion that we're either going to get the PNAC empire or the ChiCom reeducation camp.

You still didn't answer the question. What's your alternative to America?

No empire. No reserve currency other than gold. A national religion no ifs no buts no exceptions everyone else get out.

That's the least violent outcome of all possible futures currently bearing down on us.

 

[Pride male]

Adolf Hitler and the Germans were Europe's last hope and America destroyed them and helped the Bolsheviks and Mao.

 

[Jones]

Your interpretation of modern history is pretty shallow. Patton would have snipped the Soviet empire in the bud. Instead he was eliminated. Kennedy's vision of the American empire was also greatly different from the one we got after he was eliminated by the deep state.

You might benefit from reading history from Quigley, Sutton or Perkins instead of Boomer best-sellers. "Things change!" or "shit happens" seems like shallow take on history. Also shallow are false binaries, the notion that we're either going to get the PNAC empire or the ChiCom reeducation camp.

You still didn't answer the question. What's your alternative to America?

No empire. No reserve currency other than gold. A national religion no ifs no buts no exceptions everyone else get out.

That's the least violent outcome of all possible futures currently bearing down on us.

Got to read them their Leonard Rights:

"You have the right to use only gold as currency. Any other currency you use can and will result in you facing a court of law. You have the right to the national religion. If you are not of the national religion, get the fuck out. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?”

 

[Kid Twist]

The Far East may rise in a much different way, one with more open markets and a totally different appearance than what you are used to seeing with Red China --- once the credit squeeze hits, and it'll probably hit there before here. Culturally, the Russians and Chinese have a a theoretical advantage due to adherence to traditionalism even given all of their problems. Their people are still grounded on some level, at large and in general, unlike the people here (including me and you) who are used to convenience and food whenever we desire it.

We don't know what will happen, but as MrLemon says, it will ebb and flow. If the world reserve currency changes, and it will, it'll be a whole new ball game. Either a strange light of freedom will enter or it'll be super odd and dark, hopefully not globally dark.