Which Kingdom Does Elon Musk Serve?

jwshell

Chicken
Other Christian
People will always be let down if they think any man can be a savior to them. My pastor told his flock years ago, "do not put your eyes on me, keep them on Christ." Even men with the best of intentions will let us down.

Aeroektar: Claiming Musk serves Satan is unfair and slanderous.
True enough, to say he actively serves satan is unfair. However, he is serving satan if he is not actively and openly serving Jesus, as He outlines for us in Matthew 7. I believe we should apply this to all we have dealings with, and be careful not to embrace anyone who hasn't demonstrated this open allegiance to Christ too quickly and enthusiastically. Trump is a great example of many Christians doing exactly this. Many went beyond merely supporting and appreciating the good he did to viewing him as some sort of messianic figure who would save America from the globalists...and were shocked when he didn't. I believe being careful with Musk in this same regard is important. For me, I will frequent Gab, because as far as I can see, Andrew Torba is a Godly man whose goals and vision aligns nicely with mine.
 

Northumber

Sparrow
Protestant
My threshold for seeing someone (or myself) serving Satan is low.

I'd rather just make this all a more common part of general discourse. Sure people look surprised at me and sometimes think I'm crazy but it will help move the Overton window. I always call out serving Satan as soberly as possible.
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
I think it depends on how you use the term "end times". A lot of people understand that to mean that the Antichrist is about to come to power, any day now.

From the prophecies of our Orthodox saints and elders, it sounds like we are in the general end times, when the end isn't too far away, could be a matter of decades, or a couple hundred years. But we're not in the very end, end times, when it's only a handful of years to Christ's Second Coming.

I suspect the fathers of St. Anthony's Monastery would believe that we are in the general, but not immediate, end times, because Elder Ephraim of Arizona talked about the Sleeping King.



Notice in the video that Elder Ephraim said that the Sleeping King will awaken and reign over the Orthodox, and that he will live 33 years. After his death, people will start to become decadent, and then the Antichrist will be born.

So the timeline is this: WWIII (very close now, maybe even this year, will be nuclear), then King Ioannis (30 - 40 years), then growing sinfulness (how long depends on the people of that time, surely at least a few decades, maybe more), then birth of Antichrist, then 30 years until he comes to power, then 3 1/2 years until the Second Coming of Christ.

I doubt any of us will still be alive when the Antichrist comes to power. Our children may be, or their children.

That is, if I've understood all this correctly.
 
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GodGiveMeStrength

Robin
Orthodox Catechumen
I think it depends on how you use the term "end times". A lot of people understand that to mean that the Antichrist is about to come to power, any day now.

From the prophecies of our Orthodox saints and elders, it sounds like we are in the general end times, when the end isn't too far away, could be a matter of decades, or a couple hundred years. But we're not in the very end, end times, when it's only a handful of years to Christ's Second Coming.

I suspect the fathers of St. Anthony's Monastery would believe that we are in the general, but not immediate, end times, because Elder Ephraim of Arizona talked about the Sleeping King.



Notice in the video that Elder Ephraim said that the Sleeping King will awaken and reign over the Orthodox, and that he will live 33 years. After his death, people will start to become decadent, and then the Antichrist will be born.

So the timeline is this: WWIII (very close now, maybe even this year, will be nuclear), then King Ioannis (30 - 40 years), then growing sinfulness (how long depends on the people of that time, surely at least a few decades, maybe more), then birth of Antichrist, then 30 years until he comes to power, then 3 1/2 years until the Second Coming of Christ.

I doubt any of us will still be alive when the Antichrist comes to power. Our children may be, or their children.

That is, if I've understood all this correctly.


It's interesting and makes sense what Elder Ephraim is saying about the abundance of everything causing everyone to apostatize and for so many to be deceived. How horrible those times will be.
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
If anyone claims to know that the end of the world is so close that you shouldn't bother getting married, then I would question if that person is truly a holy elder. I would trust St. Paisios, Elder Joseph of Vatopaidi, and Elder Ephraim of Arizona. I would not trust anyone who contradicts their prophecies while pretending to be an elder.

Maybe that's not what they mean though? Maybe they just mean that the times immediately ahead of us are going to be extremely hard, so wait until after the nukes and famine are over?
 
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Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
This thread is going on a detour from discussing Elon Musk's ultimate spiritual allegiance to a general discussion about the Antichrist. I suggest we need another dedicated thread to the topic of the Antichrist (and the Katechon as well, for the two topics are intertwined) after the one that was closed down with Roosh's Christmas announcement.

I personally think that the Katechon is God's act of mercy to humanity considering the immense trials to be ushered by the Antichrist's reign. Notice that Evangelicals don't know anything about the Katechon, instead pushing the fallacy of the Rapture wherein Christians would be whisked away to heaven to be spared from the horrors of the Antichrist's reign. The reign of the prophesied Sleeping King might also coincide with that of the Antichrist for the same reason, which likely implies the Antichrist's scope of rule to have its limits. The way I see it, the wording of Rev. 13:15-18 does not necessarily convey that the Beast system controls all of humanity, just that it will be able to enforce the death penalty on the portion of the earth it has rule over. "And he causeth all" can refer to anyone within the Antichrist's jurisdiction, regardless of status, to be compelled to receive the Mark.

The historical forerunners or prototypes of the Antichrist, such as the Islamic Caliphates or the Bolsheviks, had geographical limits to their power and opposing domains (not necessarily defending Christendom either) that were able to put a check on their expansion, allowing some Christians to escape persecution. So by analogy, we can infer that a small number of Christians will be allowed to escape martyrdom, through the mercy of God, and take refuge under the protection of the Katechon.
 

EntWife

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
No, you haven't mentioned enough to figure it out. I can't figure out why any elder would counsel people not to get married because of the end times apparently.

People will be getting married and having children until the end of the world. How else would there be Christians for the Antichrist to martyr if Christians stop getting married and being fruitful and multiplying? Those martyrs will be our descendants. According to Elder Ephraim of Arizona, the Antichrist hasn't been born yet, and won't be for decades, at least. We won't be alive then to be martyred.

Is this elder (whether real or not) advising that people in general should not get married? Or was this perhaps his advice to one or two people, and others generalized it, "Ohhh, he says people shouldn't get married, they should prepare, it's because of the Antichrist!" People do like to be dramatic. Someone could have told you something that isn't really accurate that "the elder says".
 
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I've known some Christian girls who never married likely due to a combination of careerism and belief in the end times making it pointless to start a family. I've also heard the much common trope "why would I want to bring a child into this world?" from both men and women alike. It will be much harder to live those golden years if you have a barren field. Children and family are a blessing, and a gift, that we must act on. The rich know it, and they don't even believe in Christ (or at least in His divinity and His being the savior). How many children does Elon Musk have now, including ones not covered by the media? He's doing in public what Jeff Epstein did in private, seeding the world with his tech heirs, who will likely lord over the descendants of Orthodox alive today in the years leading up to the Second Coming, unless things change.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
I've known some Christian girls who never married likely due to a combination of careerism and belief in the end times making it pointless to start a family. I've also heard the much common trope "why would I want to bring a child into this world?" from both men and women alike. It will be much harder to live those golden years if you have a barren field. Children and family are a blessing, and a gift, that we must act on. The rich know it, and they don't even believe in Christ (or at least in His divinity and His being the savior). How many children does Elon Musk have now, including ones not covered by the media? He's doing in public what Jeff Epstein did
No, you haven't mentioned enough to figure it out. I can't figure out why any elder would counsel people not to get married because of the end times apparently.

People will be getting married and having children until the end of the world. How else would there be Christians for the Antichrist to martyr if Christians stop getting married and being fruitful and multiplying? Those martyrs will be our descendants. According to Elder Ephraim of Arizona, the Antichrist hasn't been born yet, and won't be for decades, at least. We won't be alive then to be martyred.

Is this elder (whether real or not) advising that people in general should not get married? Or was this perhaps his advice to one or two people, and others generalized it, "Ohhh, he says people shouldn't get married, they should prepare, it's because of the Antichrist!" People do like to be dramatic. Someone could have told you something that isn't really accurate that "the elder says".



God promised Abraham that Nations will come from him. And the 12 sons of Jacob became the forefathers of 12 tribes of Israel. Some people have the old notion of an unbreakable Patrilineal line from their heroic ancestors which contributes to that worldview of the importance of family. As the sons that manage to make their own fortunes Head their own Households as Patriarchs.

I think this fits in with the Authoritarian Family type that the Hebrews, Japanese and Germanic peoples had(15:51):



Very tough disciplined peoples. Very tenacious in survival. But also they don't manage to form worldwide Empires due to the way they work. Very Anti-Totalitarian by definition. Naturally Nationalist.


As for the women. When Abraham's servants blessed Rebekah the bride to be of Isaac they blessed her this way:

Genesis 24:60

Rebekah is the Mother of many Nations
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
This might be a dumb question, but if one of NeuraLink's purposes is to treat conditions like paralysis and Parkinson's, can't chips or processors just be implanted in the spine instead of the brain? Or better yet, why didn't Musk or his buddies pioneer something like artificial nerves instead?

If you're familiar with the concept of the "Internet of things," Elon Musk's proposals sound to me as leading to a slippery slope of turning human beings the same as refrigerators or TVs or ovens or other appliances.
 

Akaky Akakievitch

Kingfisher
Orthodox
This might be a dumb question, but if one of NeuraLink's purposes is to treat conditions like paralysis and Parkinson's, can't chips or processors just be implanted in the spine instead of the brain? Or better yet, why didn't Musk or his buddies pioneer something like artificial nerves instead?

Perhaps if it was a genuine piece of tech then this wouldn't target people's brains and provide them with the equivalent of a back-street lobotomy, there might be a better way to facilitate the tech without such an risky procedure, but this "innovation" has nothing to do with wellbeing and compassion for ones suffering, and all about significantly altering ones state of consciousness through technology, enabling the WEF agenda of technocracy and removing the very thing that makes us human: our free will. Once the Neuralink is installed, it will surely create the ultimate NPC bots -- if people survive the lobotomy operation that is.

If you're familiar with the concept of the "Internet of things," Elon Musk's proposals sound to me as leading to a slippery slope of turning human beings the same as refrigerators or TVs or ovens or other appliances.

They want to destroy the image of God in man, as part of the devil's ancient warfare against God and man. What's particularly frightening with all this tech is it's proposed altruism, that it's all for our benefit and that it will advance our species onto another plane or dimension, while they are clearly removing our very humanity by attempting to promote the insertion of foreign untested technology into everyone's skull and defiling our natural fleshly bodies with silicon chips and computers.

This is about the devil assaulting God through men and mocking Him as he attempts to steal away more souls into hades. Musk's lobotomy technology will encourage this and probably speed up this process, as I imagine there will be many failed human experiments before they release it to the mainstream market. Although given what we've just seen the past few years with the jab mandates and people's willingness to basically risk death and eternal damnation for a one-week vacation, then it's clear that the bar is very low these days and there will likely be more willing participants than we would have guessed previously.
 
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