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I don't think that there is any way to mass feed these guys the red pill, because so much of their actions are done to save face with women. I think the only way is if you're someone that is a red pillar, and you see one of these guys, try to help them if they look like they need it. I think most guys were like me, where for a majority of my life, I was teetering on the edge of red pill, but I didn't know exactly what that meant.
Cut them out of your life. You are never going to sway white knights, or feminists or fat fucks - if they ever change it will be at their own hands and not yours. For every one that you would change, you'll have squandered your efforts on another dozen.
Build a life that's attractive, and don't let these men into it. Don't hire them, don't play poker with them, don't go to lunch with them... It shouldn't be hard because these dudes are usually lameas shit anyway.
I tried to get a mansion together with some forum members but it didn't quite get off the ground. But one of the appealing things about it was that no matter what was happening I knew all the guys involved were ready to toss a chick out on her ass and would not think twice about it - they were all guys impervious to the white knighting instinct. If we had a party and some chick complains to me that my roommate that i know is cool is being "creepy" and I'd just laugh her in face. She'd cower away with a punctured ego as soon as she'd see there was no burly bouncer to enforce her whims and toss some harmless dude out. She'd have to beat it or shut up.
If more men built these islands of sanity and justice, chicks and white knights would stay on their toes.
"I would guess the majority of men on this forum were white knights when they were younger. "
It's not polite to project your personal history of faggotry onto others, Mr. Zero Rep.
Build a life that's attractive, and don't let these men into it. Don't hire them, don't play poker with them, don't go to lunch with them... It shouldn't be hard because these dudes are usually lameas shit anyway.
I tried to get a mansion together with some forum members but it didn't quite get off the ground. But one of the appealing things about it was that no matter what was happening I knew all the guys involved were ready to toss a chick out on her ass and would not think twice about it - they were all guys impervious to the white knighting instinct. If we had a party and some chick complains to me that my roommate that i know is cool is being "creepy" and I'd just laugh her in face. She'd cower away with a punctured ego as soon as she'd see there was no burly bouncer to enforce her whims and toss some harmless dude out. She'd have to beat it or shut up.
If more men built these islands of sanity and justice, chicks and white knights would stay on their toes.
"I would guess the majority of men on this forum were white knights when they were younger. "
It's not polite to project your personal history of faggotry onto others, Mr. Zero Rep.
FretDancer
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Why do you guys even bother, go on with your life.
Live and let live.
Live and let live.
I can see your point of live and let live, and Tuth's point (in some cases, yes a good ol' ass whoopin is headed their way if they start to get physical). Personally I try to size the guy up and see if he's worth teaching red pill ideas. If I see he's some lost cause orbiter with zero potential, I'd distract him or throw him off by asking "well is she your girlfriend?" If the dude looks like he has some potential, why not help a fellow man. Instead of waiting for a man to be fucked by the system like divorce court, help when he's young enough and impressional to avoid a terrible cycle. If more of us learned this at a younger age I doubt we would be seeing so many problems.
basilransom said:
Considering I said majority and not everyone and assuming you know what majority means, then all that says to me is that I must have touched a nerve in regards to your faggotry. Anyone who really has been Alpha since the cradle wouldn't have given my comment any mind because they'd know they were in the minority. There's a reason why the analogy used is the Red Pill. It's because most people are indoctrinated to the opposite. You know what else in not polite? Being a catty cunt. Thanks for the welcome to the board, lol.
-Mr. Zero Rep
"Considering I said majority and not everyone and assuming you know what majority means, then all that says to me is that I must have touched a nerve in regards to your faggotry. Anyone who really has been Alpha since the cradle wouldn't have given my comment any mind because they'd know they were in the minority. There's a reason why the analogy used is the Red Pill. It's because most people are indoctrinated to the opposite. You know what else in not polite? Being a catty cunt. Thanks for the welcome to the board, lol.
-Mr. Zero Rep"
You have zero rep points, fewer than ten posts and have been here for a month, and you're alleging that most of the members here behaved in a way that the forum as a whole deplores. Considering that you do not know the personal history of hundreds to thousands of anonymous men scattered throughout the world, your comment was disrespectful and libelous. Like I said, you have a questionable past, and you're trying excuse it by saying most people *here* were like you.
-Mr. Zero Rep"
You have zero rep points, fewer than ten posts and have been here for a month, and you're alleging that most of the members here behaved in a way that the forum as a whole deplores. Considering that you do not know the personal history of hundreds to thousands of anonymous men scattered throughout the world, your comment was disrespectful and libelous. Like I said, you have a questionable past, and you're trying excuse it by saying most people *here* were like you.
soup said:
I wasn't sure whether to bother answering your post as it just seems to ignore everything I've said. I'm well aware these issues exist. But you're not going to change any minds by shaming the minds you aim to change. That's my point.
I'll also add that for many the social impulse was not built on the idea of a vagina being sacred but rather built on the combination of women bearing children and being the weaker sex, thus needing to be protected.
I'm not arguing for it and I'm well aware that many low-lifes take advantage of it - if that was supposed to be instructive for me, I'm afraid it was unnecessary. I've been well aware of these things when I was but a wee lad, well before it was a topic in the manosphere. I became aware of them just by watching the world around me, and I've heard countless men on the streets, from all walks of life, voice the dangers of women who play these games.
basilransom said:
I tend to lone wolf it, but I don't think I'd want to hang out in such a place. It seems like what you're looking for isn't a room full of men who act rationally but rather a room full of men who all spurn women and/or think and act just like you.
In my own opinion, a guy who immediately assumes a woman is wrong in a situation is not impervious to white knighting at all. I'd venture that he's just a follower who is afraid to go against his social circle and is quite likely made of the same stuff that makes these hypothetical white knights we talk about so dangerous. Put him in a social circle full of white knights and he'll jump in with that pack.
People need to, first, learn to think. And second, learn to think for themselves. To take every situation on its own merit (while keeping possible pitfalls like "white knighting" AND group-think peer pressure from their friends in mind) instead of hopping on a woman's side just because she's female, hopping on a man's side just because he's arguing with a female, or hopping on their friend's side just because their social circle expects it of them.
Don't get me wrong, I've lived in houses like you're talking about many times and have gladly laughed chicks off that tried to bad-mouth my friends, so I'm not implying anyone should run around playing Captain Save-a-Hoe around or anything. But I've also slammed at least one friend on his dome for bitch-slapping a chick in front of meou have to be careful about grouping up with people who all think exactly like you - that's when you start becoming the bullies and start forgetting to think for yourselves.
Balance is the key, as usual. Not jumping from one extreme just to arm yourself with another.
basilransom said:
Thank you for that beautiful vision and phrase, basil. I always loved your RVF mansion idea.
It's strange to see these two great words -- sanity and justice -- used in their proper meaning. Strange and good.
"An island of sanity and justice" is how I like to think of this forum at its best.
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