White Male Suicide skyrockets in America
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Money and or a top tier job might not help one attract women, but only because game is still needed. Once you have a large amount of expendable resources, free time, and the game to execute it all you will have a constant pussy flow. Saying money and a sexy job alone will get you laid is still game denialism. Game still required. Never forget that. Even into marriage and LTR's-the game doesn't stop for any more people than the carousel or wall do.
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What is the top 5% job that you do?Delta said:
Doesnt having money - or showing you have money... attract all the gold-digging bitches?
I have always believed and told people "that if men could felate themselves the human race would have never built civilization and humans would still live in trees." Men through all ages have always at the end of the day been able to have sex with a half-decent looking girl-even if its a whore. Nowadays many men are realizing-just like a millenial that realizes they wasted 4-6 years of their life incurring 50K of student debt for a worthless humanities or social science degrees and still cant find a job-that despite their best efforts and doing what they were told they still will not end up or be able to enjoy a variety of not just beautiful, but even attractive women.
There just aren't enough slim, long-haired, feminine, available females to go around anymore. In addition, men are finding out that these women find their phone and their social media accounts, along with a number of orbiters, more satisfying than their average male counterparts attempting to woo them. I think once a society gets to this point all hell breaks loose.
All men want is a beautiful woman to make them a sandwich and blow them at the end of the day and that kind of feminine devotion is becoming hard to come by. Look for the herbivore movement to become a thing in the west. It is different than MGTOW because most of them I believe have digital or virtual concubines. This is the future for these men. Life-like sex robots.
Sad. There will be guys blowing their brains out and dying without ever finding out what real pussy feels like.
There just aren't enough slim, long-haired, feminine, available females to go around anymore. In addition, men are finding out that these women find their phone and their social media accounts, along with a number of orbiters, more satisfying than their average male counterparts attempting to woo them. I think once a society gets to this point all hell breaks loose.
All men want is a beautiful woman to make them a sandwich and blow them at the end of the day and that kind of feminine devotion is becoming hard to come by. Look for the herbivore movement to become a thing in the west. It is different than MGTOW because most of them I believe have digital or virtual concubines. This is the future for these men. Life-like sex robots.
Sad. There will be guys blowing their brains out and dying without ever finding out what real pussy feels like.
Honestly if a guy just wants to 'get laid', he just has to have basic game or conversation skills - it isn't that hard; if a guy has game and is decently good looking he can pull sluts at local bars or on dating or hookup sites pretty easily, even if he's living poor.AboveAverageJoe said:
Getting a an attractive or stable wife, or raising a family might be a little trickier if he isn't in a good financial position. Though even then if the guy knows how to ignite a woman's desire, I believe a lot of women will be more willing to overlook any money problems he has ; guys who have to rely on money alone to attract women are usually the guys with no game who just settle for a trophy wife.
This is one reason why I'm almost thinking of rejoining a Christian church; I've met some young, nice-looking women who are devout Christians who were very modest and effeminate and would definitely make better wife material than the typical vapid millennial chick.
Asked one of them out though who was into me and she said I'd have to come to her church and join her religion before we could see about dating; that scared me out of it at the time, but in retrospect I admired that a lot, versus other girls I've met who thought nothing of fucking within less than 24 hours of the first "meeting". (if a guy's determined to be a player though he'd probably have to give up that lifestyle if he joined a conservative church, so I can see why a lot of guys here aren't too keen on that).
And to be honest, dating outside of a strong community or social network is something of a modern thing, with the advent of dating websites, etc - it definitely isn't the traditional norm where people met their partners through family, friends, or church; today the social structure is so broken down that a lot of people don't have much of a "social network" after HS or college, other than coworkers, any outside hobbies like sports leagues, or childhood friends (if they're lucky to still live in the same town, as opposed to moving across the country after college). Meeting a smoking hot chick at a bar, club, or on a dating website therefore probably runs into a lot of problems that it wouldn't have if the couple both came from a strong community rather than met as pure strangers.
EDantes said:
I thought it was consensus that church girls are some of the most active sluts around? The thought of joining a congregation to find a decent LTR has occured to me. I never followed through and I would have to join one of those Superchurches to have a proper number of fit women I could game through. Most Superchurches around here preach the prosperity gospel and that shit makes my want to vomit. I did go to Church (Episcopalean) with my mom recently because she told me there was a petite, single, Filipina who was a teacher going there now. Tiny one room church, really way too small of a congregation to game in.
More of a stereotype; you'll have the people on one hand who show up every Sunday but more or less do whatever they want the other 6 days of the week; but then the are those who are more active in their community. Probably varies a lot by the denomination, and the church and individuals itself; the 'mainline' churches for example with more watered down, progressive doctrines probably wouldn't be the best bet.AboveAverageJoe said:
(I'd personally avoid the more extreme, fundamentalist churches though; some of them border on cultishness or make a big point of promoting fringe views like "young earth creationism").
The more conservative churches tend to involve the church community in the 'courtship' process a lot more; I think if a guy was an active member of a church and looking for a LTR he'd probably find more girls of a serious relationship mindset. I've talked to some conservative guys involved in the churches who were very strong, alpha, patriarchal types.
If a guy wants a strong sense of community and conservative set of standards, there are probably good churches out there he could join, but if he's looking less for a traditional marriage, kids, or relationship and wants to game, then I wouldn't recommend getting too heavily involved in the church; It'd be frowned upon and he'd probably feel like the church is trying to 'control' his life too much.
The downside of what I have seen is that sometimes the church tends to involve itself too much in the relationships, and people might feel 'pressured' into marrying someone they don't know well; but on the flip side the mainstream world has put too much emphasis on 'finding the perfect person' and unrealistic expectations.
AboveAverageJoe said:
This is not necessarily true, I've found. For detailed (but cynical) explanations about this, go to the Dalrock blog.
Believe it or not, for all the complaining I do about Catholicism, I was a church regular once -- because I was the in-house musician at my local parish. (My parents volunteered me in eighth grade.)
So I'm old enough to be able to look back at the various church girls I knew about tell about what happened to them. What I found is that most had kids and stayed married.
It's the same story with girls I knew outside of my church, but who were religious. Some of these girls were Jewish, in fact, but involved in their synagogues.
The women who got divorced or became single mothers were the party chicks, the ones who dressed like sluts, the club-goers, and the future career women -- the latter of whom are mostly childless. It's easy to see the way this all panned out now, but back twenty or thirty years ago, men didn't have the info we did now (i.e. the chart showing that the more sexual partners a woman has the more likely she is to divorce).
It didn't matter if these girls went to church or not. If they did, the other 99 percent of their lives told the real story. So "the wild church girl" stereotype is true with them, but only if you only look at them going to church. Ask what they did the night before.
Luckily, this isn't the 1980s or 1990s where the only information some of us had (ahem) about this topic was feminist bullshit propaganda from Big Media. I think anyone who is a member of this forum will easily be able to go to a church, talk to some women, and be able to realistically know what kind of woman he's dealing with.
I think there's another relevant factor when looking for proper Christian girls for a wife or an LTR.
If you go to some massively inclusive megachurch you might have a larger pool to work with but you're inevitably going to be stuck with some bitch who would preach tolerance and forgiveness while her own kids are having their throats cut by islamists.
I suppose the sweet spot would be to find someone from a smaller more militant congregation who identified herself strongly as a part of the local community rather than as a terminal forgiveness-bot acting as society's punching bag.
A good woman has enough protective instinct to recognise that sometimes you have to draw a line around your own people, and if necessary defend it violently.
If you go to some massively inclusive megachurch you might have a larger pool to work with but you're inevitably going to be stuck with some bitch who would preach tolerance and forgiveness while her own kids are having their throats cut by islamists.
I suppose the sweet spot would be to find someone from a smaller more militant congregation who identified herself strongly as a part of the local community rather than as a terminal forgiveness-bot acting as society's punching bag.
A good woman has enough protective instinct to recognise that sometimes you have to draw a line around your own people, and if necessary defend it violently.
Dantes said:
I'd also add that, thankfully, at least for now:
1) There are still some places in the world where having resources does help to attract feminine women (still need some form of Game though), and
2) There are some real men in communities like this that can at least partially guide you to said places.
Delta said:
In no way am I suggesting that a baller job alone is enough to get the girl. I've written about passive vs. active game before.
But this thread is about suicide and I am trying to explain it. The fact is unless you've got a great job the odds of having a family today are extremely slim. Most of the guys in the top 20% of jobs are blue-pill, and terrible with women, so the women they usually end up with are women at the tail end of their fertility in the thirties and they manage to pop out a kid or two.
But contrast that with the guys in the 80% of lower jobs, and either they become players who can get laid regularly or they get nothing - in either case neither have families going into old age, which explains a higher suicide rate.
3 Aussie dads involved with the "family court" take their lives each day in Australia.
It never makes it into the media.
21 Fathers
It never makes it into the media.
21 Fathers
https://www.rt.com/usa/349255-study-suicides-among-professions/
Seems to be a co-relation between work and satisfaction.
Seems to be a co-relation between work and satisfaction.
Perfectionist said:
I'd rather not say what I do to maximize my anonymity.
To your second question about gold-diggers, the answer is unequivocally no. The polar opposite is true. With astounding consistency, the type of girl I attract is the one who makes as much or more than I do, who the last thing she needs is more money, but simply can't feel attracted to a guy unless he's intelligent and has his shit together. Girls who would actually benefit from a provider don't touch me with a ten foot pole.
Seriously, my experience has led me to believe that the concept of a gold-digger is outdated and hardly exists nowadays. Modern girls expect to feel "connection" and attraction to a guy. This can't be emphasized enough. Provider game is a loser, at least if you're in your 20's.
Delta said:
Delta, your input here is very valuable.
I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on this post from Wallstreet Playboys:
http://wallstreetplayboys.com/personal-finance-and-dating/
However, to avoid further derail, I'd like to suggest that we continue this discussion in this thread.
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