Who do you think will win the 2020 US Election?

Who will win the 2020 US Election

  • Trump

    Votes: 223 84.5%
  • Biden

    Votes: 41 15.5%

  • Total voters
    264

Snag87

Robin
What I'll likely do is bet Biden for election and place a small wager on Trump in a state such as PA or WI where Biden is 70. In the unlikely event Trump wins he'll 100% need those states, so I'll recoup a percent of my wager on Biden's presidency.
 

Snag87

Robin
If Biden loses FL and AZ, he needs to win MI, WI, and PA. The most accurate pollster from 2016, Trafalgar has Trump ahead in MI, AZ, and, FL, and within spitting distance in PA.

You said you’re relying for 538 for your predictions. Nate got all those rust belt states and several others wrong in 2016.
Nate was wrong on FL, GA, PA, WI, MI, NC. Pretty important states to get wrong.

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Trump will never lose AZ and Florida and win the other 3 pivotal states.
 

Snag87

Robin
Clinton was the most disliked and unelectable candidate the dems put forth in decades and Trump won MI by the skin of his teeth!
 

paninaro

Kingfisher
The election comes down to a handful of battleground states. Which of these states will Biden win? MI, WI, PA, FL, AZ?

Trump won MI, WI, and PA in 2016 by less than 1% of votes. Those could easily flip the other way. Especially a place like PA, since Biden's from there and some people like to vote for the hometown guy.

FL he won by under 2%. AZ was more solid with a under 4% difference.
 

8ball

Kingfisher
This election will have a much bigger impact than just the USA. It will also seal the fate of the western world.

It will be temporarily harsh for americans in the short to medium term, however europe will actually flourish.

The demands to pay up and Renegotiate trade deals wil end with biden. The EU can do deals with china and even russia with very little consequence as “America First” policy comes to end. Its very easy to lobby the Bidens, every european nation + their big companIes has a sophisticated lobby oppearation which was Temporarily disrupted by the trump admin.

Also this time they wont have the conservative backlash they used to when it comes to things like taxing american digital exports and fining tech companies for violiting eu privacy laws.

Moreover, Joe Bidens extreme cringe SJW platitudes and domestic policy will push Europe further to the right, the same way Obama did. Obama’s second term foreign policy played a key part in promoting a right wing backlash and fermantimg a strong visegard at first but europe wide resistance.

You see the american democratic party is mostly a pro Big business party that calls the other side racist. Thats it. The offer nothing except for making an “inclusive speecH”. Unlike other countries where unions and workers make up the bulk of the left, in the US its actually the opposite.
The coalition is the following:
1.Minorities who are forever pegged the left
2.Lgbtq + Feminists and their sister Lobbies(planned parenthood, divorce lawyers).
3.Academia(schools, colleges, banks that provide loans)
4. Diaspora communities whos one issue is to sponsor greencards for family members
5. People with criminal records
6. Rich people who want the satus quo(high paid executives, hollywood, tech companies)
7. Unions

When the EU or China deals with a Biden presidency, they know this, they couldnt care less about good jobs being lost because they are not their voters. They are in fact incredibly easy to deal with, a lot easier than trump.
Any foreign leader knows that when they talk to Biden, they are aware that Biden’s Voters dont give a shit about losing jobs or getting a fair bargain or overpaying for everything.
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
Trump won MI, WI, and PA in 2016 by less than 1% of votes. Those could easily flip the other way. Especially a place like PA, since Biden's from there and some people like to vote for the hometown guy.

FL he won by under 2%. AZ was more solid with a under 4% difference.

Biden has to win MI, WI, and PA. Trump needs just one. Michigan early voting is looking good for Trump.


Trafalgar, the only pollster who correctly called MI for Trump in ‘16, has Trump leading in Michigan.
 

bucky

Ostrich
The american democratic party is mostly a pro Big business party that calls the other side racist. Thats it. The offer nothing except for making an “inclusive speecH”. Unlike other countries where unions and workers make up the bulk of the left, in the US its actually the opposite.
The coalition is the following:
1.Minorities who are forever pegged the left
2.Lgbtq + Feminists and their sister Lobbies(planned parenthood, divorce lawyers).
3.Academia(schools, colleges, banks that provide loans)
4. Diaspora communities whos one issue is to sponsor greencards for family members
5. People with criminal records
6. Rich people who want the satus quo(high paid executives, hollywood, tech companies)
7. Unions

I don't think I've ever seen the current Dems summed up better than the part I bolded. Great breakdown of their coalition, too.
 

Goni

Robin
Nit
This election will have a much bigger impact than just the USA. It will also seal the fate of the western world.
Not really.

It is sad that many " red pilled" guys actually believe that.

I am not trying to be black pilled but there are some obvious truths that only the blind can't see.

If I would be living in the States I would also vote Trump as the lesser evil but the simple truth is that the system is entirely under control in USA and I am daring to say that it was done as such in order to be maintained under control.

USA is more Jewish controlled , evan than British colonial empire.

Trump did basically nothing in order to reverse the demographic shift in the USA.

He did nothing to reverse the moral degeneration in USA which started since WW1 , accelerated in 1960s and 1980s and has gone super sonic since then.

Normally it can not be reversed as long as Zionists are in charge of Hollywood , social media and media in general, intelligentsia, university staff etc.

Ironically he has supported Israel more than Obama , attacked Iran and started a cold war with China reinventing the " Red Danger" . Recognised Jerusalem as capital of Israel, accpeted Golay heights as part of the same state etc.

I do not see what kind of change he can do in the next 4 years
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Huh? He didn't win a landslide last time and is polling considerably worse. I think a Trump victory would be a miracle. Biden will win popular vote by 4 million+ at minimum.

More suspect newbie Marxist Socialist CCP Democommunist agitation propaganda ie: agitprop.
 

fiasco360

Kingfisher
I would hope now that Trump has some control over the voter fraud. I find it extremely hard to believe that even with the mass amounts of propaganda that Hillary Clinton received as many votes as she did.

If voter fraud is under control, Trump wins in a landslide. If voter fraud is allowed to happen, Trump will initially win then the slow "drip" of new ballots will come in with a large majority being democrat.
 

Louis IX

Pelican
Nit
Not really.

It is sad that many " red pilled" guys actually believe that.

I am not trying to be black pilled but there are some obvious truths that only the blind can't see.

If I would be living in the States I would also vote Trump as the lesser evil but the simple truth is that the system is entirely under control in USA and I am daring to say that it was done as such in order to be maintained under control.

USA is more Jewish controlled , evan than British colonial empire.

Trump did basically nothing in order to reverse the demographic shift in the USA.

He did nothing to reverse the moral degeneration in USA which started since WW1 , accelerated in 1960s and 1980s and has gone super sonic since then.

Normally it can not be reversed as long as Zionists are in charge of Hollywood , social media and media in general, intelligentsia, university staff etc.

Ironically he has supported Israel more than Obama , attacked Iran and started a cold war with China reinventing the " Red Danger" . Recognised Jerusalem as capital of Israel, accpeted Golay heights as part of the same state etc.

I do not see what kind of change he can do in the next 4 years

It will. His loss will lead to less hopes + brexit cancelled next elections = more and more Muslims coming to our lands supported by jews

Basically Christians and whites will become minority in their own land.
 

Cavalier

Pigeon
Without fraud Trump wins by an historic landslide. Maybe all 50 states and 75% plus of the popular vote. I honestly believe that he actually won more States and the popular vote last election but fraud made it seem otherwise. A little more fraud and the Communist scum might have won. So expect epic level fraud attempts this election.
 

Goni

Robin
It will. His loss will lead to less hopes + brexit cancelled next elections = more and more Muslims coming to our lands supported by jews

Basically Christians and whites will become minority in their own land.
I stated many things above and maybe you need to read again.

I was talking primarily about USA.

In Europe Trump winning or not has 0 influence.

African migration is more of an issue than Muslim one.

Aging population and pension budgets going bankrupt because of this is another issue in Europe.

Italy will feel it first with Bulgaria and Western Balkan population whose population is migrating in big numbers.
 
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Pendleton

Kingfisher
There hasn't been much talk about 3rd parties. They got nearly 5% of the vote last time, which isn't much but could make the difference in the swing states. There is no McMullin/cuck candidate this time around so I would expect those votes to go to Trump or stay home. Less clear what will happen with the Libertarian and Green votes.
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
There hasn't been much talk about 3rd parties. They got nearly 5% of the vote last time, which isn't much but could make the difference in the swing states. There is no McMullin/cuck candidate this time around so I would expect those votes to go to Trump or stay home. Less clear what will happen with the Libertarian and Green votes.

Yeah, Libertardian Johnson used to be republican governor of NM, and got over 9 percent of the votes In NM. Trump lost NM by 8. New Mexico will be much tighter this year without Gary Johnson, maybe T can flip?

McMuffin stole some of the cuck mormon vote in Utah, but T still won handily.
 
I went ahead and put it down for T and will leave this thread alone hereafter.

The first reason I do this because I'm seeing that the democrat 'leads' in all the major states are coming short of the 2016 ones.

The second reason is the Germ. If you believe the stat harpies, you accept that the Germ's impact is skewed towards people-of-color in dense metropolitan areas. If so, that's eliminating whole swing state margins worth of what would have been Joe Bud-man votes; there's not really a considerate way to put that.

The third reason is that I think I've morphed into religious nut over the past few years. The media, the government advisors, and congress are now what are essentially modern day Pharisees. Its been plot after plot after plot for over five years now to blatantly get rid of someone, only to fail because of tiny overlooked safeguards. An electoral college, a slight majority of senators, etc.

Something has to be protecting this man. I'm not saying he's a devout Christian at all. He probably doesn't even understand what's going on, himself. And hell, I not even saying that I'M a devout Christian. But I think he's going to stick around as long as he's allowed to- what mankind thinks be damned. There's still a few things that have to get done.



I think our rulers were expecting a slow steady slide into power as a single political party where they would make a permanent Sodom out of the global superpower, and suddenly hit a big orange snag. And technically blackpillers are right; the trends in this country all point to leftist dystopia, but then again its been that way for decades. We still somehow got a POTUS whose modus operandi is to openly mock the media every public appearance that he makes. And it looks like he's about to brand SC appointee number three with only four years in office.

So come the big to-do, I believe he's going to perform an upset. Everybody's going to be pissed, of course. And things will probably start to deteriorate from thereon.

And if we're wrong about any of this, well, posts are permanent. So you can look back and have a good laugh. Then again you might not be in the mood to laugh much.
 
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Pendleton

Kingfisher
Yeah, Libertardian Johnson used to be republican governor of NM, and got over 9 percent of the votes In NM. Trump lost NM by 8. New Mexico will be much tighter this year without Gary Johnson, maybe T can flip?

McMuffin stole some of the cuck mormon vote in Utah, but T still won handily.

He also got 5% in Colorado and Maine, which was more than the % Trump lost by in each state. He got 4% in Minnesota, 4% in New Hampshire and 3% in Nevada - again more than Clinton's margin of victory. He got around 4% in AZ and NE2, both of which Trump only narrowly won in 2016.

McMullin got 1% in Colorado and 1.8% in Minnesota so that should help tighten things in those states (although the MSM indicates Colorado is completely out of play of course).
 
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bucky

Ostrich
I went ahead and put it down for T and will leave this thread alone hereafter.

The first reason I do this because I'm seeing that the democrat 'leads' in all the major states are coming short of the 2016 ones.

The second reason is the Germ. If you believe the stat harpies, you accept that the Germ's impact is skewed towards people-of-color in dense metropolitan areas. If so, that's eliminating whole swing state margins worth of what would have been Joe Bud-man votes; there's not really a considerate way to put that.

The third reason is that I think I've morphed into religious nut over the past few years. The media, the government advisors, and congress are now what are essentially modern day Pharisees. Its been plot after plot after plot for over five years now to blatantly get rid of someone, only to fail because of tiny overlooked safeguards. An electoral college, a slight majority of senators, etc.

Something has to be protecting this man. I'm not saying he's a devout Christian at all. He probably doesn't even understand what's going on, himself. And hell, I not even saying that I'M a devout Christian. But I think he's going to stick around as long as he's allowed to- what mankind thinks be damned. There's still a few things that have to get done.



I think our rulers were expecting a slow steady slide into power as a single political party where they would make a permanent Sodom out of the global superpower, and suddenly hit a big orange snag. And technically blackpillers are right; the trends in this country all point to leftist dystopia, but then again its been that way for decades. We still somehow got a POTUS whose modus operandi is to openly mock the media every public appearance that he makes. And it looks like he's about to brand SC appointee number three with only four years in office.

So come the big to-do, I believe he's going to perform an upset. Everybody's going to be pissed, of course. And things will probably start to deteriorate from thereon.

And if we're wrong about any of this, well, posts are permanent. So you can look back and have a good laugh. Then again you might not be in the mood to laugh much.

" The media, the government advisors, and congress are now what are essentially modern day Pharisees."

Great observation. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it works.
 
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