I would have to say James Brown because he was soundtrack of a generation and his music became the backbone for another for a whole other genre. Then would also have to add George Clinton because he took a want James Brown did and took it to outerspace. Plus he set a precedent in the record industry by taking the same band and franchising it under two different names.
Who is your role model?
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thedude3737 said:
They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.
I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.
The recommended biography is Titan.
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Fathom said:thedude3737 said:
They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.
I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.
The recommended biography is Titan.
Yeah you're right, you'd have to pay a white kid 45k a year to wash dishes professionally. We're not talking about scraping a few trays at Subway here. I'd be more than happy to take any white punk out of high school and throw him in a dish pit of a 500 dinner a night high end restaurant and see how long they last. I've seen a handful of white dishwashers in my career, and they were all one foot out of prison. That's the level of social misfit I'm talking about.
In 12 years in the kitchen I haven't worked with one single exploited Latino. They're here because they fought tooth and nail to get here and bust their ass harder than any other nationality, except maybe Filipinos. Hard work and a sense of pride? I call that noble as hell.
thedude3737 said:Fathom said:thedude3737 said:
They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.
I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.
The recommended biography is Titan.
Yeah you're right, you'd have to pay a white kid 45k a year to wash dishes professionally. We're not talking about scraping a few trays at Subway here. I'd be more than happy to take any white punk out of high school and throw him in a dish pit of a 500 dinner a night high end restaurant and see how long they last. I've seen a handful of white dishwashers in my career, and they were all one foot out of prison. That's the level of social misfit I'm talking about.
In 12 years in the kitchen I haven't worked with one single exploited Latino. They're here because they fought tooth and nail to get here and bust their ass harder than any other nationality, except maybe Filipinos. Hard work and a sense of pride? I call that noble as hell.
I think you need to cool it with the generalizations here. I've worked every job in the restaurant for several years and most of the jobs in the kitchen aren't something anyone wants to be doing their whole lives. The Salvadoran and Honduran line cooks I worked with were trying to get out of the kitchen to commercial trucking jobs or sub-contracting. Fortunately for them until they can find something better you can support a family sending back money to Central America from kitchen wages, its a lot harder supporting a family in the U.S. though I did know a few who did it.
What is with the animosity toward 'white kids' or 'white punks'? Do you think any asian, black, or indian kids whose families have been here for a generation, want to spend their lives as wage slaves in a hot kitchen? No, because in most cases that displays a lack of ambition.
I do agree with you that the work ethic and positive attitude of immigrants from Central America is admirable, but I don't think shooting for higher than unskilled labor reflects poorly on whites, or any other race.
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My father: Self made man. He lost his father at the age of four. He has worked every day of his life since he’s 11 just to provide for his mother, his brothers and sisters, his wife and his children. He found a way to work and study, graduated, married my mom and gave us a good life. He has showed me how to be self driven, hard worker, responsible and loyal to my principles. He’s the most vicious Atheist you can ever find.
Military and Political Leaders: I have always had a fascination for leftist military and political leaders. Marshall Zhukov, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Ho Chih Minh, Fidel Castro and more recently, Vladimir Putin. Whether or not you agree with their politics and methods, I am attracted to their long life commitment to their ideology, as if they have renounced to have a normal life and devote all their will and energy to build a New Order.
Cabaret’s Master of Ceremonies: You may find this as stupid. Have you ever seen the movie Cabaret? Well, in this movie dancer and actor Joel Grey plays the character of Wirk Singer, the Master of Ceremonies or ‘MC’ of a decadent cabaret located in some shithole in the pre-Nazi Berlin. The character is fascinating (as the whole movie). I was 19 when I watched the movie for the first time, and by that time my game with girls was just awful. So, when I see this lavish, intelligent, horny and ironic character on action in the screen I subconsciously learned my first lessons not only on game, but in life in general. Take the time to watch the movie.
Military and Political Leaders: I have always had a fascination for leftist military and political leaders. Marshall Zhukov, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Ho Chih Minh, Fidel Castro and more recently, Vladimir Putin. Whether or not you agree with their politics and methods, I am attracted to their long life commitment to their ideology, as if they have renounced to have a normal life and devote all their will and energy to build a New Order.
Cabaret’s Master of Ceremonies: You may find this as stupid. Have you ever seen the movie Cabaret? Well, in this movie dancer and actor Joel Grey plays the character of Wirk Singer, the Master of Ceremonies or ‘MC’ of a decadent cabaret located in some shithole in the pre-Nazi Berlin. The character is fascinating (as the whole movie). I was 19 when I watched the movie for the first time, and by that time my game with girls was just awful. So, when I see this lavish, intelligent, horny and ironic character on action in the screen I subconsciously learned my first lessons not only on game, but in life in general. Take the time to watch the movie.
I don't have any role models that I can think of.
Funny you should mention that because I became friendly with a load of Burmese suit salesmen in Bangkok. They work 12hrs a day, only have one day off a month, and get paid less than $200 a month yet they are very generous guys and they send most of their money home to support their parents and siblings, give them money to set up businesses, pay for them to go to school, so their sisters can get married etc even though they earn so little and live quite a low standard of life in Thailand. It's admirable.
Funny you should mention that because I became friendly with a load of Burmese suit salesmen in Bangkok. They work 12hrs a day, only have one day off a month, and get paid less than $200 a month yet they are very generous guys and they send most of their money home to support their parents and siblings, give them money to set up businesses, pay for them to go to school, so their sisters can get married etc even though they earn so little and live quite a low standard of life in Thailand. It's admirable.
I feel pretty lucky that I've got plenty of role models from my own family..
Grandfather #1 - Hilarious, self taught computer and email when he was 75 in the 1990s, used it better than my parents. Always had good advice.
Grandfather #2 - Self made investor and back woods entrepreneur, earned extra money when he was younger by taking bets at bars that he could deadlift the back or a car or punch a nail through a table...which he did.
Great Grandfather - Eloquent writer and speaker who earned national respect despite being humble
Great Great Grandfather - Gifted speaker who travelled the world as a missonary. I can't imagine what it would have been like working in egypt, lebanon and syria in the 1880s. Good thing there are pictures.
for the Great and Great Greats...learned their lives from family, biographies and autobiographies written about them. I never appreciated what a gift it was to have their lives written down until I started really living my own.
Grandfather #1 - Hilarious, self taught computer and email when he was 75 in the 1990s, used it better than my parents. Always had good advice.
Grandfather #2 - Self made investor and back woods entrepreneur, earned extra money when he was younger by taking bets at bars that he could deadlift the back or a car or punch a nail through a table...which he did.
Great Grandfather - Eloquent writer and speaker who earned national respect despite being humble
Great Great Grandfather - Gifted speaker who travelled the world as a missonary. I can't imagine what it would have been like working in egypt, lebanon and syria in the 1880s. Good thing there are pictures.
for the Great and Great Greats...learned their lives from family, biographies and autobiographies written about them. I never appreciated what a gift it was to have their lives written down until I started really living my own.
Fathom said:thedude3737 said:
They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.
I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.
The recommended biography is Titan.
Rockefeller was scum, like the rest of his family. I don't respect people that make a buck selling snake oil.
rudebwoy said:Fathom said:thedude3737 said:
They do "shit" no one would pay a white kid enough to do. Alas, being exploited and non-white doesn't make them noble. I agree with you that their optimism is worthy of admiration. Others in their place would have probably resorted to bitterness and white-envy.
I have found many inspiring but have rarely if ever considered anyone a role model. In the end, they're just people. However, one individual whose life story impressed me is John D. Rockefeller, Sr. He took whatever he wanted and smashed whoever stood in his way. Might is right.
The recommended biography is Titan.
Rockefeller was scum, like the rest of his family. I don't respect people that make a buck selling snake oil.
Maybe you can criticize the way he made his money but you cannot deny that he was a philanthropist. I wouldn't go as far as calling him scum.
It's a pretty shitty role model, but I aspire to be as easygoing as Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop. Sort of figure that smoking will kill me before some intense gang rivalry though.
My other role model is Christopher Hitchens. He died doing what he loved, which was being smarter than everyone around him, smoking, drinking heavily, and telling organized religion and women's rights activists to go fuck themselves.
My other role model is Christopher Hitchens. He died doing what he loved, which was being smarter than everyone around him, smoking, drinking heavily, and telling organized religion and women's rights activists to go fuck themselves.
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Feynman married his teenage sweetheart, who passed away from tuberculosis. So he was a widower in his twenties.
He attended campus dances when it was considered desireable for a co-ed to date a nice young professor. He would deflect questions about his WWII service. They would tell him that many military vets were returning students. He would reply that he worked on the Manhattan project to develop the atomic bomb, and they would slap him.
Once Feynman was in a remote place like New Mexico. An older player warned him not to buy anything for women in bars. Consequently he had a successful approach and date. But then he bought sandwiches for his date during the day, and she saved them for a picnic with another guy! His mentor advised demanding a refund. So Feynman told her she was no better than a whore and took back his money. She subsequently slept with him.
I don't know whether Brazil occurred before or after this incident, but I recall Feynman was quite lonely there. So I don't know if the game lessons stuck.
My Father is my role model. I hope I have balls half as big as his someday.
My mom died when I was ten, and he raised six kids, basically on his own. On top of that, he was a hero in Vietnam, owns an extremely successful construction company that he built from the ground up, and has swooped more women than most guys I know. When we were kids, we always wondered why so many "Aunties" were there in the morning making us all breakfast. At 60 something, his current live-in girlfriend is 30.
Everybody on this island loves Pops. He knows everybody.
My brother-in-law is on his fifth and final deployment with the USMC. My sister is a medical professional who's job requires her to work at an outer-island hospitals for up to 7 days at a time. I agreed to keep their son, my godson, when she goes away.
We dealt with some outrageous bullshit this morning regarding my godson this morning. Thank god Pops was at my house this morning when I got the call. My godson got thrown out of summer day camp, and I had to go pick him up, and talk to the administrators.
The way pops handled the situation is the exact reason I admire him so much. He was calm as could be, while I was ready to beat the ass of every employee at that place, and a few parents.
Within about 20 minutes, Pops had political officials, Hawaii's most powerful attorney, and various other people all on the phone. He drove his point home and without going into too much detail, won over the entire situation like a damn player.
The man just has a charm and presence about him that makes people listen to what he says, and follow his lead. It's incredible.
I love that man and hope he's around for many more years.
Aloha!
My mom died when I was ten, and he raised six kids, basically on his own. On top of that, he was a hero in Vietnam, owns an extremely successful construction company that he built from the ground up, and has swooped more women than most guys I know. When we were kids, we always wondered why so many "Aunties" were there in the morning making us all breakfast. At 60 something, his current live-in girlfriend is 30.
Everybody on this island loves Pops. He knows everybody.
My brother-in-law is on his fifth and final deployment with the USMC. My sister is a medical professional who's job requires her to work at an outer-island hospitals for up to 7 days at a time. I agreed to keep their son, my godson, when she goes away.
We dealt with some outrageous bullshit this morning regarding my godson this morning. Thank god Pops was at my house this morning when I got the call. My godson got thrown out of summer day camp, and I had to go pick him up, and talk to the administrators.
The way pops handled the situation is the exact reason I admire him so much. He was calm as could be, while I was ready to beat the ass of every employee at that place, and a few parents.
Within about 20 minutes, Pops had political officials, Hawaii's most powerful attorney, and various other people all on the phone. He drove his point home and without going into too much detail, won over the entire situation like a damn player.
The man just has a charm and presence about him that makes people listen to what he says, and follow his lead. It's incredible.
I love that man and hope he's around for many more years.
Aloha!
Architekt
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In recent times, I've seen a pretty big overhaul in most areas of my life, which extends to the people I consider influential or role models. Strangely enough, someone who's had the greatest effect on my life recently wasn't anyone particularly famous, or some war hero, or cool relative, or something like that - it was just a dude I met at my uni tavern and became friends with. He's basically a fuck up by society's standards (he is actually in jail now), but he was just about the most alpha motherfucker I've ever met. He was charismatic, charming when it suited him, smart - especially in social situations, confident in himself, and just did whatever the fuck he wanted, without regard for the consequences. He was the kind of guy that grew up in rough areas with rougher people and pretty much had that kind of lifestyle forced upon him, but had enough social smarts to still fit in with an upperclass crowd almost seamlessly. We hung out a bit, and he showed me what living that alpha kind of lifestyle was like, giving my first real taste of what it's like to truly be a man. After that moment, I wanted needed more. This led to me look for ways to become more forceful and commanding about my wants and needs, and become more invested in my self, rather than thinking of others first - especially in my dealings with women. Eventually I followed my nose to RooshV.com, and, in turn, this forum. I haven't looked back since.
Strange how one, seemingly insignificant, person could have such a large impact on who I am.
Strange how one, seemingly insignificant, person could have such a large impact on who I am.
John Travolta in Saturday Night fever and Eddy Torres.
I have a thing for bubbly girls so i'd rather dance all day then waste time with being a jerk at all times. As Elvis said... "little less conversation a little more action!"
Nothing makes me feel better than having many people ask me why i'm so happy all the time, thats the end goal is it not?
I have a thing for bubbly girls so i'd rather dance all day then waste time with being a jerk at all times. As Elvis said... "little less conversation a little more action!"
Nothing makes me feel better than having many people ask me why i'm so happy all the time, thats the end goal is it not?
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