Why are Americans circumcised?

[Tex Pro]

I didn't realise how common it was in America until I saw it discussed on Seinfeld.

Here is the clip (bad quality):

Yeah, we would give cats a real hard time if we found out they were uncircumcised back when we were younger. Many of them would try and hide it if they were.

How would you know who was and who wasn't. Just sayin.

Sometimes kids would just admit to it and other times one of the skanks they banged would throw him under the bus.

Cool.

Never gave a shit what girls think about it. I am mostly into ONS at this point anyways.

The only critique I worry about nowadays is for a girl to tell me: "I am pregnant"...cuz that means I have to convince her to get an abortion.

 

[Kabal]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

This is not specific to foreskin (which I don't really know much about off the top of my head), but evolution isn't a biological perfectionist by any means.

Evolution gets it right almost all the time, but sometimes it's "wrong" or at the very least, slow to catch up, particularly for humans. Some features that may have been beneficial for humans in the past are now neutral or maladaptive, such as the appendix or the third molars (wisdom teeth).

 

[TheSlayer]

I hope this practice is weeded out, at least for non-Muslim and non-Jewish boys.

Why? It's cleaner and healthier. I'll have my kid circumcised and I'm not even religious.

I don't know man. If nature is giving you something, I don't see the point of it being removed after birth. If I am not wrong, the American Medical Association also said recently that ultimately circumcision is not needed and as long as you clean your dick properly it's not going to be dirty. At the end of the day it is mutilation. I figured members of this forum and certainly "red pill" guys would be against it.

Here's the thread I was referring to:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19974.html

 

[Volk]

Let's put this up: Penn & Teller, about circumcision



Part 2 is there too.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

Like I said, I'm not trying to call anyone out or make fun because they are uncircumcised. We were young and fucking around. When you're young you look for anything to crack jokes with your boys about. I could give two shits less who's circumcised and who's not.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

I hope this practice is weeded out, at least for non-Muslim and non-Jewish boys.

Why? It's cleaner and healthier. I'll have my kid circumcised and I'm not even religious.

I don't know man. If nature is giving you something, I don't see the point of it being removed after birth. If I am not wrong, the American Medical Association also said recently that ultimately circumcision is not needed and as long as you clean your dick properly it's not going to be dirty. At the end of the day it is mutilation. I figured members of this forum and certainly "red pill" guys would be against it.

Here's the thread I was referring to:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19974.html

Maybe, but it's just easier to maintain cleanliness if you're clipped. I also have read it reduces the risk of contracting STD's, though not sure how true that is. I think it's more preferable among American girls. I see it as doing him a favor.

 

[bacon]

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[Fathom]

I don't see how being uncircumsized is any less clean. It's not like you shower once a month. Also, you don't need lotion to fap.

 

[TheSlayer]

I hope this practice is weeded out, at least for non-Muslim and non-Jewish boys.

Why? It's cleaner and healthier. I'll have my kid circumcised and I'm not even religious.

I don't know man. If nature is giving you something, I don't see the point of it being removed after birth. If I am not wrong, the American Medical Association also said recently that ultimately circumcision is not needed and as long as you clean your dick properly it's not going to be dirty. At the end of the day it is mutilation. I figured members of this forum and certainly "red pill" guys would be against it.

Here's the thread I was referring to:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19974.html

Maybe, but it's just easier to maintain cleanliness if you're clipped. I also have read it reduces the risk of contracting STD's, though not sure how true that is. I think it's more preferable among American girls. I see it as doing him a favor.

I see. I am too lazy to find the AMA report which said the STD thing was a little overblown. In terms of American (Canadian) women, it really hasn't been a problem. Just a few girls were surprised but most can't even tell and don't care (in regards to your point about your potential son). But an interesting point of view, nonetheless.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

Yeah. To be honest I don't see it as a huge deal either way. I just personally would decide to clip my son. But I could understand why you wouldn't want to.

 

[Veloce]

there was a thread on this a while back, some people got all heated up...

I'm uncut. It's not cleaner or healthier to be cut, that's a myth. There's thousands of nerves in the tip. I'm thankful for my parents decision. When my dad was having the "birds and bees" talk with me, he just said I could wait until I was an adult and if I felt like having the procedure done, I could.

For anyone deciding to have their kids circumcised, I can tell you this: If you didnt get them cut and gave them the choice of getting circumsized when they hit puberty, I'm willing to bet 99.99% of them wouldnt do it. Consider that.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

If you didnt get them cut and gave them the choice of getting circumsized when they hit puberty, I'm willing to bet 99.99% of them wouldnt do it. Consider that.

Of course they wouldn't, it would hurt like a son of a bitch and more than likely be pretty traumatizing. Hell, I wouldn't have either. But when they're kids they won't remember it so it won't be traumatic for them.

 

[TheSlayer]

there was a thread on this a while back, some people got all heated up...

Yeah, this is the thread that I already posted in this thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19974.html

 

[Lemmo]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

It always seems a bit backward to have a totally pointless operation carried out on babies (particularly since it can occasionally be deadly).

Anyway - just curious as to how this came about? Here in the UK it is only carried out for religious reasons. So - I am interested in how it became a cultural norm in America?

It is becoming less common in the US but is still the general rule for white protestants. I think it became a common practice due to its dubious medical benefits and then carried on for no good reason. A barbaric custom. Unless you can show real medical benefits, you are just mutilating your kid to suit your own aesthetic. It would be like piercing an infants ears or giving it a tattoo only even more extreme.

 

[Tex Pro]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

It always seems a bit backward to have a totally pointless operation carried out on babies (particularly since it can occasionally be deadly).

Anyway - just curious as to how this came about? Here in the UK it is only carried out for religious reasons. So - I am interested in how it became a cultural norm in America?

It is becoming less common in the US but is still the general rule for white protestants. I think it became a common practice due to its dubious medical benefits and then carried on for no good reason. A barbaric custom.

No confirmation on my jew doctor theory?

Don't know enough about circumcision and am too lazy to do research to figure it out.

 

[TheSlayer]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

It always seems a bit backward to have a totally pointless operation carried out on babies (particularly since it can occasionally be deadly).

Anyway - just curious as to how this came about? Here in the UK it is only carried out for religious reasons. So - I am interested in how it became a cultural norm in America?

It is becoming less common in the US but is still the general rule for white protestants. I think it became a common practice due to its dubious medical benefits and then carried on for no good reason. A barbaric custom.

No confirmation on my jew doctor theory?

Don't know enough about circumcision and am too lazy to do research to figure it out.

Yeah, I am curious to know how the practice started in America and Canada especially when Europeans are uncut and both of these countries were settled by Europeans and their descendants.

 

[InternationPlayboy]

I would imagine sex would feel better without the foreskin though, wouldn't it? I guess it's hard to say. Even if someone went from being uncircumcised to clipped, who's to say he didn't lose sensitivity doing it at an older age? Someone asked lucky in the other thread but he never responded. He did say though he was happy he went through with the procedure and recommended it.

 

[Lemmo]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

It always seems a bit backward to have a totally pointless operation carried out on babies (particularly since it can occasionally be deadly).

Anyway - just curious as to how this came about? Here in the UK it is only carried out for religious reasons. So - I am interested in how it became a cultural norm in America?

It is becoming less common in the US but is still the general rule for white protestants. I think it became a common practice due to its dubious medical benefits and then carried on for no good reason. A barbaric custom.

No confirmation on my jew doctor theory?

Don't know enough about circumcision and am too lazy to do research to figure it out.

Here you go http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=42 Alan Guttmacher seems to have been a big proponent. Sounds like a wacko if you read his Wiki bio. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Frank_Guttmacher

 

[Lemmo]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

It always seems a bit backward to have a totally pointless operation carried out on babies (particularly since it can occasionally be deadly).

Anyway - just curious as to how this came about? Here in the UK it is only carried out for religious reasons. So - I am interested in how it became a cultural norm in America?

It is becoming less common in the US but is still the general rule for white protestants. I think it became a common practice due to its dubious medical benefits and then carried on for no good reason. A barbaric custom.

No confirmation on my jew doctor theory?

Don't know enough about circumcision and am too lazy to do research to figure it out.

Yeah, I am curious to know how the practice started in America and Canada especially when Europeans are uncut and both of these countries were settled by Europeans and their descendants.

It seems to have been a blip in US history. Only really started up in the early 20th century, peaked in the 60s and 70s and is now quickly becoming less common. http://www.historyofcircumcision.ne...ent&task=category&sectionid=8&id=73&Itemid=52

 

[Tex Pro]

Juat wondering what the reason for this is? Apparently most Americans are circumcised. Seems a bit of a strange thing to do considering the foreskin is there for a reason (thanks to evolution).

It always seems a bit backward to have a totally pointless operation carried out on babies (particularly since it can occasionally be deadly).

Anyway - just curious as to how this came about? Here in the UK it is only carried out for religious reasons. So - I am interested in how it became a cultural norm in America?

It is becoming less common in the US but is still the general rule for white protestants. I think it became a common practice due to its dubious medical benefits and then carried on for no good reason. A barbaric custom.

No confirmation on my jew doctor theory?

Don't know enough about circumcision and am too lazy to do research to figure it out.

Here you go http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=42

I guess it was Jewish doctors that popularized it.

Alan F. Guttmacher was Jewish:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Frank_Guttmacher