Why are Americans circumcised?

ghostdog

Woodpecker
Lucky said:
ghostdog said:
You don't lose as many nerves getting it done later in life as you do getting it done as a baby.

Does anyone really believe that sex doesn't feel good for guys who get circumcised as a baby?

No one said that it doesn't feel good at all.
The debate is about if it feels AS good as uncut
 

Tex Pro

Ostrich
Gold Member
Young T.R. said:
most women have no idea either way unless you tell them.

If you are dating her, she will know since you will take showers together, lay in bed naked together, change in front of her, etc.

However, you are right in certain cases: if you are just pulling ONS (and especially if you wear a rubber) she probably won't know, especially if you don't stick around after sex. That is why all this talk about what American girls like best is a bit moot, at least for a serious player. I only care about how sex FEELS FOR ME, not her. Couldn't give two shits about a girl after I fuck her.
 

sheesh

Woodpecker
Lucky said:
I underwent a circumcision last year. I don't notice any real differences in feeling during sex, there might be a very slight difference in sensitivity but it still feels great. The differences are negligible. I can still masturbate without lotion, but it helps. Wearing a condom without foreskin is easier. Almost every European girl I've had sex with has told me they prefer my cut penis over the uncut European cocks they've sat on.

Why did you do it, because of a phimosis ?

There was a heated debate over making circumcision ( for religious reasons) illegal in Germany after an incident with a young muslim boy in Germany last summer who had complications.

A good surgeon knows that the best operation is no operation. Every procedure has risks. Since there are no documented benefits to circumcision, a lot of German physicians feel rather uneasy about the whole thing and some think it is against medical ethics.

I used to get worked up over the issue myself but nowadays I'm a bit calmer about it.

I think it's probably okay for Jews and Muslims to do it, at least they get something out of it. A jewish boy will not be accepted into the religious community without brit milah. But in the case of the average American who just thinks, yeah why not, without any hard reason for doing it, it's rather stupid.
 
Funny how every cut dude pretends that chicks prefer their dicks over the men in their own country, when I've been told the exact opposite. Anecdotal shit from chicks you've banged is useless for this relatively academic debate.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Orthodox Inquirer
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ghostdog said:
Lucky said:
I like when guys get worked up over this. The cut guys argue that being cut is better because they know they'll never know what it's like to have a foreskin and want to believe it's better to not have one and uncut guys feel insecure and claim sex is better and circumcision is mutilation and become 'intactivists.' What a fucking joke.

I underwent a circumcision last year. I don't notice any real differences in feeling during sex, there might be a very slight difference in sensitivity but it still feels great. The differences are negligible. I can still masturbate without lotion, but it helps. Wearing a condom without foreskin is easier. Almost every European girl I've had sex with has told me they prefer my cut penis over the uncut European cocks they've sat on.

You don't lose as many nerves getting it done later in life as you do getting it done as a baby.

Citation Needed , i'm too lazy to google.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
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I'm just going to spam this message on every page until people stop saying there are no documented benefits to circumcision. The scientific paper below is from Brigham and Women’s Hospital.

Samseau said:
There's actually a lot of evidence that's recently come out showing circumcision significantly reduces the chance for AIDS as well as other STDs.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/cellular-microscopic/circum-aids.htm

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/259200.php

Full scientific paper here:

http://mbio.asm.org/content/4/2/e00076-13.abstract?sid=dfa2b607-8000-4524-ab52-2b70e03a4ed6

According to the study, an uncut foreskin is more likely to tear during sex. These tears serve as an entry point for the HIV virus, which binds to white blood cells, and the tip of the foreskin contains a high number of white blood cells.

Seems like a compelling reason to get a son cut.
 

Lucky

Pelican
Gold Member
sheesh said:
Why did you do it, because of a phimosis ?

I fucked a girl in a jacuzzi early last year and subsequently kept getting rashes and infections around my dick. The third time I saw my doctor about it he recommended circumcision and I had thought about doing it for awhile anyway and decided to do it. Ever since the procedure I've had no infections and my dick looks pretty good so I'm happy with the decision.
 
2Wycked said:
With respects to wisdom teeth, it can be a good thing to get them removed. Personally, I needed them removed after getting my braces off, because I had bad pain in the back of my mouth, with the wisdom teeth pushing on my molars in the back. My Dad had the same problem, although when he was in this 40's. He complained one day of being unable to chew food in the back of his mouth. I had just recently had the surgery and suggested he go the dentist to check it out. He did and found out the wisdom teeth were his problem. He had the surgery and despite a nasty infection he got, he was better a month later, chewing food without pain.

That's the beauty of the scam: lots of people actually do need their wisdom teeth taken out if they're impacted or growing sideways or their jaw is too small and another tooth will jumble the rest of them up. Since those conditions are fairly common, no one questions when dentists push the procedure on everyone.
 

Samseau

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BortimusPrime said:
2Wycked said:
With respects to wisdom teeth, it can be a good thing to get them removed. Personally, I needed them removed after getting my braces off, because I had bad pain in the back of my mouth, with the wisdom teeth pushing on my molars in the back. My Dad had the same problem, although when he was in this 40's. He complained one day of being unable to chew food in the back of his mouth. I had just recently had the surgery and suggested he go the dentist to check it out. He did and found out the wisdom teeth were his problem. He had the surgery and despite a nasty infection he got, he was better a month later, chewing food without pain.

That's the beauty of the scam: lots of people actually do need their wisdom teeth taken out if they're impacted or growing sideways or their jaw is too small and another tooth will jumble the rest of them up. Since those conditions are fairly common, no one questions when dentists push the procedure on everyone.

The fact is, Dentists have more to lose than gain by not pushing the procedure.

If they say, "Hmm, I think you'll be okay," and then the Wisdom teeth fuck up the guy's mouth guess who is on the hook for malpractice? Or if not malpractice, guess who loses a customer?

Conversely, if he performs the operation, he stays on the safe side, and makes good money too.
 

Vicious

Crow
Gold Member
Samseau said:
I'm just going to spam this message on every page until people stop saying there are no documented benefits to circumcision. The scientific paper below is from Brigham and Women’s Hospital.

You're not being rational here Samseau, You could make the same case for removing the upper digit of a finger since these get pricked easily or any other number of similar surgical alterations.

Sure there are benefits but what's the risk percentile here? I don't think anyone here is protesting people who want to do it from concious decision but from religious reasons imposed on infants.
 
Seems like a compelling reason to get a son cut.

No, it isn't. If you're dumb enough to go around banging high-HIV risk women, you should be using a condom. Getting circumsized because it might partially reduce your risk for HIV is a really nonsense justification. If you think being cut gives you carte-blanche to not use protection, you deserve whatever comes your way.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
I've certainly thought about getting it done as condoms really hurt me, and not every girl is willing to rawdog and not every girl I sleep with am I comfortable rawdogging!
 

sheesh

Woodpecker
Teedub said:
I've certainly thought about getting it done as condoms really hurt me, and not every girl is willing to rawdog and not every girl I sleep with am I comfortable rawdogging!

Yeah...as if circumcision protected you against HIV... it's absolutely not clear whether it has any protective effects at all. And if it did, we are not talking about 100 % protection but rather 10, 20 % at best, imho.

This is exactly why many see the hyping of circumcision as a way to prevent the spread of AIDS as counterproductive and dangerous.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
^ No, I was saying that. I was saying that because condoms hurt me, I don't like wearing them. Therefore increasing my chance of any STD's in general. I wasn't implying that circumcision prevented them, just that it made wearing condoms easier, as per the post I was referring to above.
 

Young T.R.

Sparrow
I thought I had seen a study that showed that more than half of wives surveyed didn't know whether their husbands were circumcised or not, can't seem to find it though. I think it was like 80%. But who knows, the study could have been done in 1950 or something. Maybe I just imagined it.

I'm uncircumcised, and from my own experience, no girl has brought it up, even long term girlfriends/fuck buddies who I've showered with and lounged around naked. My foreskin is pretty tame though, so maybe it's just not that apparent, some dude with a 5-skin might get some resistance -- possibly.
 
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