Why are Women Willingly Choosing Soyboys?

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
I think this fits too.

Despite speaking generally above, I also think there are a few women who for whatever reason like soy boys, and they would in a man-dominated era too.

Does anyone have good ideas for restoring order in the sexual marketplace?
Very few though. Line 100 women up and 95 will state they want the opposite of a soyified man. Exceptions don't make the rule and in this case the exceptions are small. As I said as the soyboy dynamic unfolds you can be 95% sure she'll lead you towards the end of the relationship. It's for a reason 80percent of divorces is initiated by women it's seldom the man ending a relationship - a man is easy to please with physical needs, sandwiches and a peaceful home. When the soy dynamic kicks in though and the woman starts to lead, dominate the man, make more money etc she'll lose respect and not long after love, for respect is preconditional for a woman's love. A woman loves pragmatically and opportunistically, based on the resources of the man, a man loves idealistically and romantically i.e. he loves the woman for her, way more unconditional than vice versa. Honor and loyalty are no feminine traits, it is what it is so we must be aware of that.

With regard to fixing the issue kicking the Jews out would be a good first step, then cancelling the internet and then bringing back Orthodox Christianity in globally. Without these 3 things there's no chance to invert the situation.
I honestly think it's mostly white women who do the whole claiming their kids are trans, gay, etc in the West. Never really see it among other women, but I'm sure they all do it for the reasons you just mentioned. Virtue Signaling and attention. Truly is a sad nation.
White women are targeted as nr 1 demographic to destroy by the regime. It's all calculated, also things like the relentless black man white woman advertising in commercials series etc. Whitey must be obliterated, annihilated, decimated and neutralized. Then they'll come for the others too. Moreover, whitey is the most secular demographic now so especially white women tend to fall for every lie in the book now. The line of defense between women and the devil - which consisted of men and religion - has been taken away so she's thrown to the wolves essentially.
 

Dobaata

Pigeon
Orthodox
Very few though. Line 100 women up and 95 will state they want the opposite of a soyified man. Exceptions don't make the rule and in this case the exceptions are small. As I said as the soyboy dynamic unfolds you can be 95% sure she'll lead you towards the end of the relationship. It's for a reason 80percent of divorces is initiated by women it's seldom the man ending a relationship - a man is easy to please with physical needs, sandwiches and a peaceful home. When the soy dynamic kicks in though and the woman starts to lead, dominate the man, make more money etc she'll lose respect and not long after love, for respect is preconditional for a woman's love. A woman loves pragmatically and opportunistically, based on the resources of the man, a man loves idealistically and romantically i.e. he loves the woman for her, way more unconditional than vice versa. Honor and loyalty are no feminine traits, it is what it is so we must be aware of that.

With regard to fixing the issue kicking the Jews out would be a good first step, then cancelling the internet and then bringing back Orthodox Christianity in globally. Without these 3 things there's no chance to invert the situation.

White women are targeted as nr 1 demographic to destroy by the regime. It's all calculated, also things like the relentless black man white woman advertising in commercials series etc. Whitey must be obliterated, annihilated, decimated and neutralized. Then they'll come for the others too. Moreover, whitey is the most secular demographic now so especially white women tend to fall for every lie in the book now. The line of defense between women and the devil - which consisted of men and religion - has been taken away so she's thrown to the wolves essentially.
You cannot judge a man by his looks only. A lot of times these "soyboys" are actually masculine in their thinking and behavior. They might not be facially attractive, but still have decent girlfriends because what they lack in physical attractiveness they seem to make up in which desirable psychological qualities. Believe it or not, a significant percentage of these guys know how to set up rules, boundaries, and expectations with their girlfriends and are not afraid to lose the girl if she crosses a line with them.
 

Lawrence87

Kingfisher
Orthodox
My guess would be that it occurs inevitably when you mix boys who build their entire personality on being mainstream enough to get laid with women are just not very discerning by default
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
You cannot judge a man by his looks only. A lot of times these "soyboys" are actually masculine in their thinking and behavior. They might not be facially attractive, but still have decent girlfriends because what they lack in physical attractiveness they seem to make up in which desirable psychological qualities. Believe it or not, a significant percentage of these guys know how to set up rules, boundaries, and expectations with their girlfriends and are not afraid to lose the girl if she crosses a line with them.
The term soyboy is deeper than the looks, it certainly applies to the characteristics as well. A soyboy is not only a physically weak man, but mentally/psychologically feminine, emotional, easy to stump when problems arise, overall blue pill in their thinking, full into the MSM etc. Merely physically weak doesn't mean psychologically weak, just like physically strong doesn't mean psychologically strong. In fact, bodybuilders are notorious for being insecure little boys.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
The line of defense between women and the devil - which consisted of men and religion - has been taken away so she's thrown to the wolves essentially.
Sad, but true. Is your take that the targeting of white women is to continuously knock the family formation of the strongest check to globalism? That is, other groups are either already subverted or not worried about? Not that anyone is "worried about", anymore by the powers that be ...
 

wewuzkangzz

 
Banned
Orthodox
I notice men are terrible at judging the genetic quality of other men.

The 6'2 skinny feminine acting guy with sharp facial features has higher genetic quality than a 5'10 classic 1950's "masculine man" who is ripped but norwood 3 at age 40.

Women are like genetic X-ray machines. Their lizard brains are simply ruthless.

Western men love to shit on "feminine kpop idols." Women see their good height (6'1+) and strong facial features such as jawline or good canthal tilt and get wet. Their X-ray sees straight through makeup or gay looking outfits.

No amount of money or status gets a girl wet like raw genetic quality.

So before you label someone as a soyboy, what is their height? canthal tilt? mid-face ratio? these are key genetic indicators
 
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Stoyan

 
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Orthodox
No amount of money or status gets a girl wet like raw genetic quality.
And how would you define "raw genetic quality"? It's an arbitrary term, it seems. Like what kind of man do you want, a blond haired, blue eyed, Viking? I mean that it is easy to determine who has bad genes, such as a genetic disease, hemophilia, or dwarfism. But it is arbitrary to determine who has "superior" genes. It becomes arbitrary at some point. For a man who has, no visible disabilities, how do you determine who has "good genes". Do you think that women go around with DNA test kits and check for "raw genetic quality"?

iu


what is their height? canthal tilt? mid-face ratio? these are key genetic indicators
Ok, elaborate.
 
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wewuzkangzz

 
Banned
Orthodox
And how would you define "raw genetic quality"? It's an arbitrary term, it seems. Like what kind of man do you want, a blond haired, blue eyed, Viking? I mean that it is easy to determine who has bad genes, such as a genetic disease, hemophilia, or dwarfism. But it is arbitrary to determine who has "superior" genes. It becomes arbitrary at some point. For a man who has, no visible disabilities, how do you determine who has "good genes". Do you think that women go around with DNA test kits and check for "raw genetic quality"?

iu
Height and facial structure and scent (pheramones). Talk to women you will know these qualities can make them wet and aroused instantly. Their hindbrains disable logical thinking when they detect high quality genetics. Something like "physical strength" is something only men care about.

For European men, 6'2 is absolute minimum height to be average in 2022. Most middle school kids in Europe are around this height already, so being below signals subpar genetics.
 

Stoyan

 
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Orthodox
Height and facial structure and scent (pheramones). Talk to women you will know these qualities can make them wet and aroused instantly. Something like "physical strength" is something only men care about.
What kind of facial structure? Because it depends largely on nationality and ancestry. And women from different nationalities/ancestry/races obviously have different preferences. I would say that they prefer a man who looks similar to them.

And scent? You mean bathing frequently?

Hmm ... my impression that unlike men, women actually prefer a partner for non-physical characteristics, such as personality, intelligence, ability to make money, etc.

Something like "physical strength" is something only men care about.

It seems that "physical strength" is a sign of "genetic quality", such as the ability to plow a field, do heavy construction work, correlated with the ability of making money?
 
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wewuzkangzz

 
Banned
Orthodox
What kind of facial structure? Because it depends largely on nationality and ancestry. And women from different nationalities/ancestry/races obviously have different preferences. I would say that they prefer a man who looks similar to them.

And scent? You mean bathing frequently?

Hmm ... my impression that unlike men, women actually prefer a partner for non-physical characteristics, such as personality, intelligence, ability to make money, etc.
Pheramones. There have been numerous studies on this. Pheramones (aka scent your DNA produces) signal genetic quality and partner compatibility. This is even accepted by mainstream "science" for a long time now.


Actually, top tier male models of all ethnic backgrounds look similar. They have the same canthal tilt and facial ratios, and are 6'4 in height.

Long term partner =/= raw sexual attraction. Long term women are calculating. Personality matters only in romantic comedies and disney cartoons.

I see it over and over again. Men calling other men "soy boys" because they can't bench press as much or drink hard liquor.

But it is women who are the ultimate genetic x-ray machines. Most men are hopelessly clueless.
 
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Towgunner

Kingfisher
Why? Because its a fad. Then again, how true can this really be? If you're a Chad and excel at sports, plus, you have a decent career, females are going to be attracted to you.

It goes to show you how powerful fads are. Practically all of leftism has been popularized by fads. It's how they push their otherwise insane agenda. You see them doing this with things like cross-dressing and homosexuality. Neither of those two conditions are desirable. But people are gullible and fads get them to do things they never would have.

It's disturbing to watch. Worse still, when someone complains, they say that the natural way is itself a fad, so, why must we all be forced to follow that? And all of a sudden were literally arguing over how males are males? The good news is fads never last. They come and go.

All of the leftists fads would have long since been over but the left continues to promote them. This is bad, but, it also means these fads are exhausted and the second the left stops pushing this they'll dissolve. At some point, this will happen. This is where the connection between loose monetary policy and the leftist agenda can be seen.

Promoting these fads costs money. It starts with celebrity endorsement. Today, its become quite sophisticated they inject these things into various forms of media, such as movies, TV, and even commercials. But, that requires a lot of capital. Very soon the endless money scheme will end and when it does I think the funding for these fads goes away. When this is no longer pushed, nature comes wooshing back in like a vacuum. Soy boys will be one of several fads that go away. Think about what would happen if all of a sudden being gay wasn't cool? Think about what's going to happen when being "trans" is no longer cool?

As said, I think the monetary situation is going to settle this for us, but, we ought to understand the machinations of fads because there are ways to fight against this.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I notice men are terrible at judging the genetic quality of other men.

The 6'2 skinny feminine acting guy with sharp facial features has higher genetic quality than a 5'10 classic 1950's "masculine man" who is ripped but norwood 3 at age 40.

Women are like genetic X-ray machines. Their lizard brains are simply ruthless.

Western men love to shit on "feminine kpop idols." Women see their good height (6'1+) and strong facial features such as jawline or good canthal tilt and get wet. Their X-ray sees straight through makeup or gay looking outfits.

No amount of money or status gets a girl wet like raw genetic quality.

So before you label someone as a soyboy, what is their height? canthal tilt? mid-face ratio? these are key genetic indicators
You're on to something, but it's slightly displaced. Men are competitive and pretty dishonest about themselves and other men, in general, due to the competition bred into them, and the new world where they didn't get beat down by another man like used to (or could have) happen. Women are dishonest about a host of other things, but regarding what is attractive, I get your point.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Why? Because its a fad. Then again, how true can this really be? If you're a Chad and excel at sports, plus, you have a decent career, females are going to be attracted to you.

It goes to show you how powerful fads are. Practically all of leftism has been popularized by fads. It's how they push their otherwise insane agenda. You see them doing this with things like cross-dressing and homosexuality. Neither of those two conditions are desirable. But people are gullible and fads get them to do things they never would have.

It's disturbing to watch. Worse still, when someone complains, they say that the natural way is itself a fad, so, why must we all be forced to follow that? And all of a sudden were literally arguing over how males are males? The good news is fads never last. They come and go.

All of the leftists fads would have long since been over but the left continues to promote them. This is bad, but, it also means these fads are exhausted and the second the left stops pushing this they'll dissolve. At some point, this will happen. This is where the connection between loose monetary policy and the leftist agenda can be seen.

Promoting these fads costs money. It starts with celebrity endorsement. Today, its become quite sophisticated they inject these things into various forms of media, such as movies, TV, and even commercials. But, that requires a lot of capital. Very soon the endless money scheme will end and when it does I think the funding for these fads goes away. When this is no longer pushed, nature comes wooshing back in like a vacuum. Soy boys will be one of several fads that go away. Think about what would happen if all of a sudden being gay wasn't cool? Think about what's going to happen when being "trans" is no longer cool?

As said, I think the monetary situation is going to settle this for us, but, we ought to understand the machinations of fads because there are ways to fight against this.
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Adrian

 
Banned
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I notice men are terrible at judging the genetic quality of other men.

The 6'2 skinny feminine acting guy with sharp facial features has higher genetic quality than a 5'10 classic 1950's "masculine man" who is ripped but norwood 3 at age 40.

Women are like genetic X-ray machines. Their lizard brains are simply ruthless.

Western men love to shit on "feminine kpop idols." Women see their good height (6'1+) and strong facial features such as jawline or good canthal tilt and get wet. Their X-ray sees straight through makeup or gay looking outfits.

No amount of money or status gets a girl wet like raw genetic quality.

So before you label someone as a soyboy, what is their height? canthal tilt? mid-face ratio? these are key genetic indicators

I'm not absolutely certain, but I kinda suspect you know absolutely nothing about women and what they like in men

And:

"For European men, 6'2 is absolute minimum height to be average in 2022. Most middle school kids in Europe are around this height already, so being below signals subpar genetics."

Are you on drugs?
 

wewuzkangzz

 
Banned
Orthodox
Do you have any links about this?
google canthal tilt, midface ratio,
I'm not absolutely certain, but I kinda suspect you know absolutely nothing about women and what they like in men

And:

"For European men, 6'2 is absolute minimum height to be average in 2022. Most middle school kids in Europe are around this height already, so being below signals subpar genetics."

Are you on drugs?
Have you been to the Netherlands? Average height for native pureblood dutch teens is 186+

I am not talking about ethnics but pure europeans.

Height is a universal genetic quality indicator that women across all civilizations and cultures strongly desire.
 

Zagor

Kingfisher
'Europeans' are not a single entity. Dutch have different genetic makeup than Italians. Or Irish. Or Slovaks. Dutch people are on average the tallest people in the world. Other european nations rank differently.
 

fireshark

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I notice men are terrible at judging the genetic quality of other men.

The 6'2 skinny feminine acting guy with sharp facial features has higher genetic quality than a 5'10 classic 1950's "masculine man" who is ripped but norwood 3 at age 40.

Women are like genetic X-ray machines. Their lizard brains are simply ruthless.

Western men love to shit on "feminine kpop idols." Women see their good height (6'1+) and strong facial features such as jawline or good canthal tilt and get wet. Their X-ray sees straight through makeup or gay looking outfits.

No amount of money or status gets a girl wet like raw genetic quality.

So before you label someone as a soyboy, what is their height? canthal tilt? mid-face ratio? these are key genetic indicators

Soyboyism isn't purely physical, it's also mental and psychological.

I know a guy who fits all those genetics who is forever alone at age 35 and hasn't had a steady girlfriend in 7 years and hasn't even been on a date in 3 years. He's a total mental case, though he is starting to slowly, slowly become more red-pilled.

I have a cousin who was fully, and I mean fully bald by 28, but who is the very definition of the standard masculine man and has never had problems with women all the way back to middle school.

I know all about canthal tilt and mid-face ratio and the 100 other things that blackpilled "incels" obsess over as their excuse for why they can't get women. It's a sad place to be.

The top 10% of men who win the genetic lottery may as well be another species and their data is not relevant to the rest of us except only as an upper extreme that we will never reach or gain any benefit from obsessing over, but do gain plenty of detriment from it.
 

grenade001

Woodpecker
Catholic
google canthal tilt, midface ratio,

Have you been to the Netherlands? Average height for native pureblood dutch teens is 186+

I am not talking about ethnics but pure europeans.

Height is a universal genetic quality indicator that women across all civilizations and cultures strongly desire.

Ethnic Dutch are an outlier regarding height.

In Australia, at 185cm or 6'1, as a early 30s man, I am as tall or taller than about 90% of men I encounter here. Being 178cm here would put you around the average for a 20 something male. There are outliers among high schoolers I have noticed, there are some over 6'4, but not in such sufficient numbers to suggest that anyone under 185cm tall is going to become a manlet within a decade.

Even in the 1930s it was remarked that Australians of Anglo stock were 8-10cm taller than their counterparts in the UK - average male height of 172cm compared to 166cm in the UK. Nutrition and better living standards (lower population density, greater sunlight) were the main explanations.
 
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