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<blockquote data-quote="Max Roscoe" data-source="post: 1424088" data-attributes="member: 17845">The question is self referential.What you are asking is &quot;Why are women not behaving the way which I expect or want them to&quot;?In other words, why are they behaving against the natural order?The answer to the question is in the question itself.&nbsp; It is precisely because the natural order is subverted that the results are subverted.Throughout the history of not just marriage, not just western civilization, but the sociology of all significant cultures, women were not given the authority to freely choose who to marry.&nbsp; This is not because men hate them, or because they are inferior, but because they judge poorly in these decisions, (not in small part because they are still emotionally and mentally mature at the time they become sexually mature and are making these decisions--in other words it is not a pure gender question, but also a chronological one but there are certainly gender components as well).In a society where we have gone against all historical norms, and told women they can choose everything from what flavor latte she will drink to what fun job experience she will have to what man she will marry, (and when she will divorce him), it is totally expected that the mates selected would be poorer choices than under a traditional scenario where her family, or her community, or her religious group, selects and ratifies this union.Why are women choosing soyboys?is as valid a question as &quot;Why do women wear crocs?&quot; or &quot;Why do religious women get biblical tattoos?&quot; or&quot;Why do women cut their hair short?&quot; or&quot;Why do women use so much profanity today?&quot;There will be no logical, rational answer to these question.&nbsp; The reason they make what we perceive as &quot;bad&quot; decisions is simply because they now have the autonomy to do so.&nbsp; It logically follows from this freedom that they will, which is why they were never given said freedoms throughout any culture, ever, until about 100 years ago.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Max Roscoe, post: 1424088, member: 17845"] The question is self referential. What you are asking is "Why are women not behaving the way which I expect or want them to"? In other words, why are they behaving against the natural order? The answer to the question is in the question itself. It is precisely because the natural order is subverted that the results are subverted. Throughout the history of not just marriage, not just western civilization, but the sociology of all significant cultures, women were not given the authority to freely choose who to marry. This is not because men hate them, or because they are inferior, but because they judge poorly in these decisions, (not in small part because they are still emotionally and mentally mature at the time they become sexually mature and are making these decisions--in other words it is not a pure gender question, but also a chronological one but there are certainly gender components as well). In a society where we have gone against all historical norms, and told women they can choose everything from what flavor latte she will drink to what fun job experience she will have to what man she will marry, (and when she will divorce him), it is totally expected that the mates selected would be poorer choices than under a traditional scenario where her family, or her community, or her religious group, selects and ratifies this union. Why are women choosing soyboys? is as valid a question as "Why do women wear crocs?" or "Why do religious women get biblical tattoos?" or "Why do women cut their hair short?" or "Why do women use so much profanity today?" There will be no logical, rational answer to these question. The reason they make what we perceive as "bad" decisions is simply because they now have the autonomy to do so. It logically follows from this freedom that they will, which is why they were never given said freedoms throughout any culture, ever, until about 100 years ago. [/QUOTE]

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