Why Do Black Teens Hit on Middle-Aged White Women?

[speakeasy]

Jurnee Smolett, this is one smokin' hot mulatta!

 

[Moma]

Please bear in mind that even though a person can be from Africa, it doesn't mean that they are pure Negroid.

Somalians are mixed with Arab, many Angolians are mixed with Portuguese and I saw a guy a few years ago that was from Sudan but was blatantly Arab mix. His skin was as dark as Wesley Snipes but his features were pure Arab (straight nose, the eyes and his hair was as curly as anything).

One guy I know is married to a Senegalese woman who is as light as Lisa Raye. When I pushed for an explanation, he told me her great grandad was mixed etc.
You also have a lot of Ghanians who are mixed etc.
So you might see a Ms West Africa and think she is automatically 100 percent pure but down the line, her DNA may have been tampered with by some lustful European.

The only cats that look 110 percent pure (to me) are those Ugandians, some Kenyans and Southern Sudanese. There are probably more but those are the groups that I have come into contact with the most.

 

[jariel]

Please bear in mind that even though a person can be from Africa, it doesn't mean that they are pure Negroid.

Somalians are mixed with Arab

I'm not trying to diss anybody because it's unnecessary, especially when it comes to respected contributors to the forum such as yourself, but the reason for my previous response above should have been clear.

I won't profess to be an expert on anthropology, but when people make comments about "typical" African features -- what exactly is typical and who decided it is typical? --, 100% black (which would rule out almost all black people who have originated in the "New World"), and stating something like Somalians are mixed with Arab -- Arab is not a race -- it just is what it is.

 

[Jason Zee]

Actually, the girl smiling, even though darker skinned, still looks mixed to me. On rare occassions, even a half white person can take on the color of her darker parent, yet still retain the features of her caucasion parent. So, I would not call this girl 100% black.

I wasn't saying the second or third girl I posted was 100% black. Only the first one though looks West African to me. And also the woman I posted a few days back, the Miss Nigeria, she's 100%. She has a classic, refined beauty that's right up there with the likes of Sophia Loren in her heyday.

Indeed, very few Americans are 100% black, so even the darkest guy, with the most African of features most likely still has a white or indian great great grandparent. For the this topic, I'm using the 100% black term to describe people who's parents nor grandparents are white or of another race. Below are two celebrities that I find very attractive, and whom I consider to be for the most part 100% black. the first is a girl that I would put more in the 'something about her gets to me' catagory, and the other is without argument hot!



I too wonder where darker skinned black women like these are hiding. I have to say that I don't consider myself particualrly go go ga ga, over white women either, since like many of you, I've lived around them all my life. I honestly date Latinas and white girl because for the most part they are simply pretty more often. A cute Latina is simply easier to find than a cute black girl, at least here in Cali. I would not be opposed to dating a hot black girl, and in many instances, would consider a coupling with someone of the same race to be an easier relationship to maintain! However, my desire for attractiveness outweighs any desire I have for keeping the race pure! Lol.

I definitely agree with that last line. All things being equal, I'd probably prefer a black chic over white just too avoid the social drama, but in the end, it all comes down to attractiveness and chemistry and that wins out over all.

I also agree that here in Cali, hot Latinas are more numerous per capita than hot black girls. This gets into an interesting issue. If you were to do a tally of all white girls, Latinas, black girls and Asian girls, how many per capita of each race would be 7s or higher? While I'm sure most guys would agree that the 4 black girls I've posted in this thread are top tier, I get the feeling that everyone thinks that you can find women of equal beauty in greater numbers in other races. If this is the case, I also wonder how much does the obesity factor weigh into this. A lot of black women are simply off the table because of that. And then factor in poverty. Poor women for whatever reason tend to be uglier, I don't know why but it seems universally true across all races. Maybe more affluent women know how to fix themselves up better? So if there were as many middle class/wealthy black women as there are with whites and most black women weren't overweight, would these Gabrielle Union type chics still be considered so rare? Btw, I don't think they're quite as rare as some seem to believe.

To play devils advocate on several occasions in this forum people have stated that black men as a rule rarely get with attractive white/latina women. So how is your arguement valid? Are black men choosing between the lesser of two evils? Is a ugly, fat white woman better than a ugly fat black woman? My guess would be that its a wash a black woman’s attitude vs the social disapproval of dating a white woman. In the end it probably comes down to aesthetic preferences.

 

[Moma]

Please bear in mind that even though a person can be from Africa, it doesn't mean that they are pure Negroid.

Somalians are mixed with Arab

I'm not trying to diss anybody because it's unnecessary, especially when it comes to respected contributors to the forum such as yourself, but the reason for my previous response above should have been clear.

I won't profess to be an expert on anthropology, but when people make comments about "typical" African features -- what exactly is typical and who decided it is typical? --, 100% black (which would rule out almost all black people who have originated in the "New World"), and stating something like Somalians are mixed with Arab -- Arab is not a race -- it just is what it is.

Yea but I never made any claims about 100% black. You got me twisted with someone else, whodie

 

[Urban Renaissance Man]

To play devils advocate on several occasions in this forum people have stated that black men as a rule rarely get with attractive white/latina women. So how is your arguement valid? Are black men choosing between the lesser of two evils? Is a ugly, fat white woman better than a ugly fat black woman? My guess would be that its a wash a black woman’s attitude vs the social disapproval of dating a white woman. In the end it probably comes down to aesthetic preferences.

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To be honest, I've not been one of the guys who feel attractive white women are totally out of reach for attractive black men. More difficult? Yes, but not out of reach at all. Of course anytime you cross the racial lines and apprach someone whom society has considered higher on the totem, there's going to be a hurdle to jump.

While I have seen the phenomonen of decent looking black guys dating poor looking white women, I have simply chopped that up to the fact that the black guy got caught up in the euphoria of being accepted by a race of woman whom he felt he had little chance with, and settled with her, without realizing he could have done better. I have nothing spectacular about me physically at all, yet I can say that on average about 2 or 3 times a year, I'll have a white woman, 6-7 1/2 make it more than obvious that she's interested, without even trying. yes, I know that number is low, but I'm talking about here in the U.S., without my having to approach, regular business hours, in a non-drinking/partying environment. Those numbers climb considerably when I'm at a music festival, or heavy approaching.

If you look at least as attractive as Wesley Snipes or higher, conduct yourself like someone who has graduated from high school, have a job and actually approach, you can get 6-7 range white girls, to the tune of having several on your team at all times, period! This might seem hard to believe by some, but you'd be surprised just how many white women simply weren't raised racist! Now, are they going to have the same problems and issues associated with American women, yes, but that's a whole different issue and subject.

 

[speakeasy]

^^^ Good post. I agree 100%

 

[Jason Zee]

URM,

I was simply saying that Black men by your own admission tend to not get attractive white women. So why not chose an average black woman over a below average white woman?

 

[Urban Renaissance Man]

URM,

I was simply saying that Black men by your own admission tend to not get attractive white women. So why not chose an average black woman over a below average white woman?

Well, I can't speak for anyone who would do that. I would not choose a below average woman of any color, for any reason. I don't recall ever saying I have done so. As far as why some black guys might do such a thing, I'm guessing it's either because in his eyes, the white girl in question isn't below average, or he gets some kind of thrill of being with someone 'exotic', and gives the below average white girl a couple of bouns points because of that. There also might be lesser discussed factors that may have played a part in his decision as well. Maybe he's had some cute black girls in his past and they treated him like crap, and now he's found this pudgy white girl, who made him feel like Billy D. Williams. Maybe he was down on his luck and he found a white girl with a double wide, who allowed him to stay with her, feeds him, clothes him, bought him a Wii, and over the course of time he developed feelings for her. I think there's other factors besides just some black guy feeling blessed by Heaven that any old white girl showed him attention! Maybe in 1922, but not now. White girls are just too common and easy for that alone to be the reason.

 

[jariel]

Well, I can't speak for anyone who would do that. I would not choose a below average woman of any color, for any reason. I don't recall ever saying I have done so. As far as why some black guys might do such a thing, I'm guessing it's either because in his eyes, the white girl in question isn't below average, or he gets some kind of thrill of being with someone 'exotic', and gives the below average white girl a couple of bouns points because of that. There also might be lesser discussed factors that may have played a part in his decision as well. Maybe he's had some cute black girls in his past and they treated him like crap, and now he's found this pudgy white girl, who made him feel like Billy D. Williams. Maybe he was down on his luck and he found a white girl with a double wide, who allowed him to stay with her, feeds him, clothes him, bought him a Wii, and over the course of time he developed feelings for her. I think there's other factors besides just some black guy feeling blessed by Heaven that any old white girl showed him attention! Maybe in 1922, but not now. White girls are just too common and easy for that alone to be the reason.

Real talk, generally speaking, black dudes roll with white women like that because they are easy to dominate. You can get what you want from them, and you can play the field, and as long as you hit that shit good, you're straight.

The shit they pull and talk with white men, they don't do with black men, because they know they'll get put in their place.

Let's not act like these dudes are getting with these women and treating them better than they would anybody else just because they're white, it's just they have more resources and are easier to use, and real players don't get rid of women that have use to them.

 

[Urban Renaissance Man]

Well, I can't speak for anyone who would do that. I would not choose a below average woman of any color, for any reason. I don't recall ever saying I have done so. As far as why some black guys might do such a thing, I'm guessing it's either because in his eyes, the white girl in question isn't below average, or he gets some kind of thrill of being with someone 'exotic', and gives the below average white girl a couple of bouns points because of that. There also might be lesser discussed factors that may have played a part in his decision as well. Maybe he's had some cute black girls in his past and they treated him like crap, and now he's found this pudgy white girl, who made him feel like Billy D. Williams. Maybe he was down on his luck and he found a white girl with a double wide, who allowed him to stay with her, feeds him, clothes him, bought him a Wii, and over the course of time he developed feelings for her. I think there's other factors besides just some black guy feeling blessed by Heaven that any old white girl showed him attention! Maybe in 1922, but not now. White girls are just too common and easy for that alone to be the reason.

Real talk, generally speaking, black dudes roll with white women like that because they are easy to dominate. You can get what you want from them, and you can play the field, and as long as you hit that shit good, you're straight.

The shit they pull and talk with white men, they don't do with black men, because they know they'll get put in their place.

Let's not act like these dudes are getting with these women and treating them better than they would anybody else just because they're white, it's just they have more resources and are easier to use, and real players don't get rid of women that have use to them.

Exactly. 70% of the time he's using her or enjoying the kingly treatment more often than he is simply smitten by her. I'm not suggesting there aren't some Tupalupa, Mississippi Niggas who only see a white girl when she's conducting a section 8 housing inspection, who might be color struck. But on average, no.

I would dare so the higher the class level of the white girl, providing your class levels are relatively high, the easier for her to get!

 

[PrimeTime]

I generally don't post much but reading through this thread has motivated me to. I live in London and this thread really just illuminates quite a bit how messed up America is racially. This thread is pretty much the first time I've heard black dudes can't get attractive white women or somehow you have to do something special to attract them - I find the idea not only laughable but no correlation with anything I've come across. I'm still shaking my head at some of the shit I've read here. "as the norm black dudes don't get attractive white women"

 

[Excelsior]

I generally don't post much but reading through this thread has motivated me to. I live in London and this thread really just illuminates quite a bit how messed up America is racially. This thread is pretty much the first time I've heard black dudes can't get attractive white women or somehow you have to do something special to attract them - I find the idea not only laughable but no correlation with anything I've come across. I'm still shaking my head at some of the shit I've read here. "as the norm black dudes don't get attractive white women"

When it comes to race relations, there are huge benefits to being a black male outside of the US (most of the time, anyway). I don't think that America is, generally, an exceedingly great place to be a black dude. It has some unique and great upsides if you know how to take advantage of them (and do your homework very carefully), but socially there are some serious issues. This is a very divided society, and that has a lot of negative effects (some less visible and more insidious than others) on the quality of race relations here.

There is A TON of animosity between racial groups here that boils beneath the surface of it all. People would be shocked at just how many black people here carry a passionate hatred/distrust of whites. It isn't just the hoodrats either who feel this way. I go to an Ivy League school, and my black football teammates there were almost uniformly middle to upper-middle class. Some were quite wealthy, and all were obviously quite well educated and academically accomplished.

I can say pretty firmly that most of them harbored those same feelings of distrust and/or outright dislike. I could regularly overhear conversations in which one or the other would (within a wide-open, mostly-white occupied football lockerroom or in a dining hall) explain to the rest of the group the white man's central role in creating all of the world's ills, and how they may very well have been, in fact, "the devil incarnate"(quoted words from one of our linebackers).

Similarly, quite a few whites hold similarly low opinions of blacks and others in this country, though they are expressed more quietly. They too exist throughout the socio-economic spectrum-it isn't just a few rednecks in the KKK who distrust, dislike and/or fear black Americans for any multitude of stated reasons (affirmative action, crime statistics, etc).

I haven't even gotten to other racial groups here (Hispanics especially) and the animosities that exist there.

The bottomline is that the USA is incredibly fractured. There are multiple defined ethnic/class boundaries here filled with people who all individually hold a mutual dislike/distrust for the others over issues that run very, VERY deep and have no easy resolution.

I'm not very bullish on the prospect of these differences being overcome in the near future either. A society this fractured with this level of animosity between groups is doomed either to extinction or some very painful changes/shifts sooner or later. Shit will hit the fan one way or another.

Granted, Europe is not necessarily a racial/social garden of eden (London has recently proven this), but there are a lot of upsides to being a black male there. Dating appears to be just one of them. You can imagine that having to deal with some of these inherent social and class divides/perceptions here in the US can create some obstacles and/or unique dynamics in the dating world for any black guy. I would suspect that they are at the heart of the perception that many black American men have of it being more difficult to date non-blacks. Roosh has discussed this topic before, and I'm with him on it, positing further that these deep social divides are the root cause of the challenges he talks about.

Obviously, as URM and myself have indicated throughout this thread, overcoming these obstacles and expanding one's dating pool is possible, but I would contend that it takes a bit more work here than in other places for results that may not be quite as great. A black male here who gets 2-3 annual invitations from decent looking non-black women could quite conceivably multiply that (I would say by a factor of at least 2, probably 3) in places like this or this where divides are less rigid and there is a great openness to maintaining friendly relations across racial boundaries (read: the groups in question don't hold a strong suspicion and animosity towards one another).

I'm slowly becoming convinced that, when it comes to dating/women, black american men have more incentive to venture outside of the USA than any other group of american men, as they may actually have the poorest dating options while in the US (lower quality and, as Roosh stated, number of women readily available/willing to see them, more work required than others to access other women). They've got slightly more to gain via travel than others in the aggregate (not necessarily on an individual basis).

That's all just some soft conjecture for now and not a solid theory as I endeavor to read and learn more on the subject, but it is highly compelling to me.

 

[Dash Global]

I generally don't post much but reading through this thread has motivated me to. I live in London and this thread really just illuminates quite a bit how messed up America is racially. This thread is pretty much the first time I've heard black dudes can't get attractive white women or somehow you have to do something special to attract them - I find the idea not only laughable but no correlation with anything I've come across. I'm still shaking my head at some of the shit I've read here. "as the norm black dudes don't get attractive white women"

You have lived in America and seen / experienced black dudes pulling educated, high status, HB8+ females?

America is def not Europe in regards to interracial acceptability.

Im not saying this in any negative or racial way, but where I come from in America the only white girls you see with ur average urban black dudes is trashy lower class white chicks, and half of them are fat.

Ovcourse ive seen the opposite, but im talking about on average.

Saying black dudes *generally* dont get attractive white chicks in America is not a ridiculous statement and many would agree / argue that is is most def true.

 

[jariel]

This thread is pretty much the first time I've heard black dudes can't get attractive white women or somehow you have to do something special to attract them - I find the idea not only laughable but no correlation with anything I've come across. I'm still shaking my head at some of the shit I've read here. "as the norm black dudes don't get attractive white women"

PT, I've expressed the same sentiments throughout the thread.

I just can't buy the "woe is me, I'm black, can't get non-black bitches shit". I've received clothes, food, rent money, cars, etc. from attractive non-black women, and these were women who wanted to have my kids and would write their first name with my last name in their little diaries.

Race is a hustle, one I choose to hustle past.

 

[Timoteo]

Black dudes don't prescribe to BS "rules of the game".

A lot of white dudes are stuck on only fucking certain types of women, with certain types of bodies, looks, ages, etc.

I think you can see sexuality in any kind of woman, and if its arousing to you, and you can make that kind of connection with the chick: two minds, one dick, one pussy, then it's all good, the rest of the shit is just details.

Are you trying to say that black dudes will fuck anything that walks and 40 year old white women are easy targets?

I don't know about middle-aged white women being "easy" targets, but would agree that generally black men are less likely to allow race/ethnicity to prevent them from fucking, and they have broader criteria for what they consider attractive. Basically, if he finds her attractive and she's receptive to him, it's ON. White men tend not to find attractiveness in non-white women, and if they do find a non-white woman attractive she will have physical traits that are close to what he prefers.

 

[Timoteo]

Why do middle aged white women travel in packs to the Caribbean/West Africa to sleep with young black boys?

It ain't just the middle-aged ones either. Younger 20-somethings have been hitting the Caribbean forever to do the same thing - fuck a local. They're afraid of the stigma of fucking a black guy where they live (they fear their family and friends will think less of them and talk shit about them), so they do the "vacation sex" thing because it stays wherever they did it, and doesn't come back with them. They go down with some like-minded buddies and do their thing. For older women, it's basically the same principle as the middle-aged white guy that goes to Thailand, except he won't take a girl shopping like these white chicks do for dudes in Africa or the Caribbean. He's not looking for companionship, while these women tend to want the guy for company also.

 

[Timoteo]

Here's a question...

If you gave a poll to black guys and told them they have to choose one of these 3 women below and that would be only woman they'll have for the rest of their life. Which they do you think they would choose?

My guess is that the majority of black guys prefer light skinned(or mulatta) black women over a pure black or pure white woman so they'd choose the middle woman. Some like Denzel Washington and Obama are with dark skin woman even though their status would let them have pretty much anything they want. And then some dudes like Tiger Woods and Bryant Gumble can't get enough blondes. But I think most would stick to a light black woman. I'd choose the middle girl myself.

Of these three, I'd actually roll with the dark-skinned woman up top. I think she's prettier than the light-skinned one in the middle, though her body is RIDICULOUS. I would never choose a blond over an attractive woman of color.

 

[Timoteo]

This came with the pic:
black girls pestering and bickering about this subject. (scroll down for more...)


Black women...you really need to stop worrying about why black men want white woman, and focus on your self. Same thing applies to me of course.

The things we are saying is getting kind of old, the excuses, the hating, the obsessing and desire and need of explanations... its getting out of hand.
I think we should be flattered that other races want to date and prefer "our" men.
I think this because, that means their mothers raised them (black men) well, which means black mothers are awesome....
but then some people date black men because they (black men) are inhanced in the ahem...department
or because of the cliche; black men are strong, know how to groove and therefore good in bed.

Okay, maybe a black man dates out side his race cause he has self hatred. Yes, some black girls do think black men date out side their race because they are ashamed of their race for whatever reason.

Any one reading this who is black or not, dont say us black people as a community dont have self hatred, because it does exist. Just like, discrimination exists, facism, sexism, so on and so forth.
SELF HATE= low self esteem hellooooooo
Lets say hypothetically, this is the case, My question is:Why do you care if some one has low self asteem? Its their mind and body...let them be who they want to be with.

Now I use to be one of those girls who would be like..."the only reason they want a white girl/ other race,over us is for status."
White to some people equals success, so when a guy has a WHITE gf he wants to be successful/ look successful or is successful.
Then i realized thats irogant because if i thought that, i would be saying me as a black girl isnt valuable or successful and inadequate. Which would also be stereotyping my own people.
WAKE UP!!!!

black women we need to stop having resentment towards black men because you think they treat everyone else better than us. maybe there is some truth to that but who cares?
Most of the time they dont want to date us is because of our attitudes, or we are not easy to get in bed with, we are'nt submissive, or because they think we are gold diggers (<------I know, stupid) and....because of our attitudes.

and have you other thought of how the girl in the relationship feels? having to explain to her parents that she likes a negro lol (k im serious) and getting bullied, and all the hate she would be recieving?
The only thing that bothers me about black men though is that they dont consider this when getting into interracial relationships...
a) by having more mixed children the black race will be ...where? lol ummm ya extinct
b) our black/African heritage and tradition, which is a beautiful heritage, will be...where? Who's going to teach it?...not Martin Luther King! Not Malcolm X and surely not my nappy headed black ass!
So, to conclude all this bullshit,
I think people should just shut the fuck up, date who you want, because we are a human race. No one is more dominant, superior, smarter, more evil....etc etc etc...
BUT
as i said before, if no one is attracted to black women... no I should say, If black men arent attracted to black women...and say your a black guy reading this who is proud of your race...
buddy in 20 yrs...the black race will be abolished. How? Your setting an exampe to other black guys and to guys in general...like this k...* warning warning stay away from black girls somethings wrong with them*
AND EVERYONE KNOWS NOTHINGS WRONG WITH US!!! (crickets)
But anyway, i am not against interracial dating, because I am attracted to all races, and I see no colour. I DONT DISCRIMINATE!!!! AND U SHULDNT EITHER!!!
PEACE!!!

She's not special. She's middle-of-the-road cute. Most brothers I know would hit given the opportunity, and if she was particularly sweet she could be your girl. But I wouldn't say he couldn't do better...

 

[Timoteo]

Plus, I want my children to look like me

That's interesting. Well, both my parents are black and I don't feel I look much like either my mom or my dad. I share my dad's exact same height and physique, but facially, we don't look the same at all. And I look even less like my mom. I do share some features in common with my sister.

In most cases you mixed race children will share features of both parents just like non-mixed children. And often non-mixed children look nothing like their parents other than skin color. My last serious girl was half black and half white. She shares a lot of facial features with her white mother.

Maybe what you really meant to say is you want your children to have the same skin color as you. That would be more accurate.

I’m sure most guys here feel the exact same way.

Not an issue of importance to me personally, whether my kids are full black or mixed-race. I don't care at all how much they look like me. I only care that they are smart and behave well. Beyond that, I couldn't care less.

I think what Jason means here is that he wants his kids to look WHITE like him, not necessarily resemble him personally (though I'm sure that would be nice...at least for your son!). An acquaintence of mine were talking at a party recently, and she recently married and had a child. Her husband is white, and she's filipina I think. She often gets comments in the grocery store from strangers assuming she's her child's nanny, because it isn't clear that the child could have come from her. She gets sick of correcting folks and having to explain.