Why Do Black Teens Hit on Middle-Aged White Women?

[speakeasy]

Neither of us cares about guys who go for fat women, regardless of color. So that's settled. The second topic on white women is curious to me because the brothas you talk about on this forum seem to focus on exactly that–white women. As long as the woman has lighter skin than the brotha, he wants her. Are you getting defensive because you're black and you chase white or light-skinned women?

If I'm getting "defensive" it's because your tone is coming off as trollish. Or IOW, like someone who is trying to whip up controversy for it's own sake as opposed to having a conversation.

I think you're dead wrong about the black men on this forum focusing entirely or even mostly on white women. I've been on this forum for a few years and pretty much know who all the black posters are and what they post about. Most of them just don't give a fuck about race, esp if we're just looking for casual sex anyway. I can't think of one poster that I know to be black that states he only goes for white women. Some such as myself and Athlone McGinness have stated certain problems with African-American women in particular when it comes to being overweight, being extremely hypergamous and having a lot of attitude. But we are talking specifically about black American women, not black women in Trinidad or Brazil. If there are any specific black posters in this forum you have in mind that only go for white women, feel free to ask your questions specifically to them, because I'm not aware of any.

As for the second part of your question on whether black men prefer lighter skinned women. Yes they do on average. But this isn't a black male thing, it's just a male thing period. Men universally prefer women with fairer skin. It's true in India, the middle east, all of Latin America, all of Asia and you could even argue it's even true amongst whites as white males tend to prefer blonde Nordic looking women with fairer features over say a dark white women like Kim Kardashian. Some say there is a biological reason for this as lighter skin in women is associated with youthfulness as skin tends to darken with age. So why you are singling black men out for a lighter skin preference when in reality this preference is universal? Makes me wonder what your real motivation is here.

And lastly, yeah some guys prefer women out of their race. So what? Everyday you have jumbo jets full of white men landing in Thailand, Cambodia, The Phillipines and Japan looking for Asian pussy(not to even mention the Europeans flying into places in Latin America like Brazil, Cuba and the Dominican Republic looking to P4P for some exotic ass). Anyone that's been to Bangkok knows the streets are full of middle-aged balding white guys walking around with 20-something Thai women they are fucking. Do you have a problem with that too or do you only care when it's black men and white women?

 

[Hoover]

Those who thought I was a troll were irritated by the nature of the topic, I suppose. There is a way to talk about anything without throwing around accusations.

I'm white, so it's just a natural state of mind for me to like white women. What I mean is that I don't even think about race when I look at white women. By that logic, I thought black men would feel the same about black women. My guess was that some black men in America chase white women out of insecurity. Status (this one explains whale chasers), a sense of inferiority about physical appearance, who knows. I wanted to see if some were honest enough to admit if they did have a specific reason, however shameful, for chasing white women. I at least have respect for a black man who says that he only goes for white women. He's being honest.

For white men that go to southeast Asia for pussy, I consider them losers. Many of them go there because they have no other choice. They failed gaming at home, so they go abroad for ease. I consider Thailand to be a shithole because of the whores. Nothing wrong with the sights. That place is arguably the whore capital of the world.

I apply what I said to all minorities. It's just that this thread was about black men.

 

[Theogreat]

This cracked me up for some reason lol.

Are black guys so desperate for white skin that they go and fuck middle-aged white women?

Last I checked most of there undesirable white women are getting fucked by white men. Let's keep a little perspective here.

That's expected. White men wanting white women.
What is it about white women that black men love so much? How they can run their fingers through the hair? Light skin? I'm not sure if status applies because fucking fat white women brings none to the table.
It's bizarre because you don't hear black guys going to Nigeria and Ghana and banging the women there. It's white most of the time, with the blonde with blue eyes at the top of the prize.

Why are you asking us? Next time you see a black guy with a fat white woman on the street why don't you ask him why he's with her? I don't know why they would date a fatty anymore than you do. I don't date fat women of any race, period. And I doubt most the brothas here on this forum would date a beached whale either. As for African women you must not be paying attention. There have been numerous threads on Africa in the travel forum. There are a number of data sheets and trip reports here from all over Africa. Use the search function. I also personally know know brothas here in the forum that banged in Africa. I believe Angola was the last place we were hyping.

Neither of us cares about guys who go for fat women, regardless of color. So that's settled. The second topic on white women is curious to me because the brothas you talk about on this forum seem to focus on exactly that–white women. As long as the woman has lighter skin than the brotha, he wants her. Are you getting defensive because you're black and you chase white or light-skinned women?

Hoover I agree with you 100%. I think it's pathetic that people are calling you a troll when its obvious that you are simply telling the truth. To all of you sensitive men in this forum please grow some balls and man the f-up. As a Black man i can admit truthfully and honestly that Black men in general get unattractive non black women for obvious reasons. Do I hate the fact that Black men are at the bottom in the SMP? Of course I hate it, but denying it or becoming defensive about it won't change that fact.

@Speakeasy- I agree with you regards to the universal preference for lighter skin women.My problem with this with regards to a lot of Black men is that they deny it. They blame Black women's "attitude" and weight issues as the reason why they go after non black women instead of coming out and saying "I like women with lighter skin, keen facial features and the like and I don't care how skinny and attractive a Black women is because I am just not into them". When I read posts from Athalone claiming that Black women are the worst option for men, I just shake my head and laugh because the same can be said about all American women in general.And besides, judging by the women he has posted under women that he considers a 10 its clear that he prefers white or latina women, so I smell denial. In short, if you prefer non Black women so be it,but just stop lying and tearing down your own race of women its not a good a look.

 

[Kish]

Please don't agree with Hoover. He's a race baiter. A classic forum troll.

Race Baiter Troll

 

[speakeasy]

Those who thought I was a troll were irritated by the nature of the topic, I suppose. There is a way to talk about anything without throwing around accusations.

Well there's a lot of race-baiting on the forum. At one point Roosh banned topics of race, but I guess he loosened up a bit if it's regarding race and travel matters. You are new here so I assume you didn't realize that. Many forums ban the topics of race, politics and religion because they always end up in a shitstorm almost without exception.

I'm white, so it's just a natural state of mind for me to like white women. What I mean is that I don't even think about race when I look at white women. By that logic, I thought black men would feel the same about black women.

Black men in Nigeria don't think about race when they look at a Nigerian woman because blacks are the "default" people there so to speak. When you are a racial minority, you think about race ALL the time. Just like if I dropped you off in the ghetto in Detroit, all of a sudden all you'd be able to think about is being white surrounded by blacks. You wouldn't be able to get race off your mind. If someone was rude to you or looked at your funny walking down the street, you'd just assume they didn't like you because you're white. Well that's what it's like being black in America every day of your life. A white buddy of mine went to Kenya for a month and when he came home, it was actually a re-adjustment for him getting used to seeing white people and thinking of himself once again as part of the majority. He had to get used to the idea of constantly being aware of his race in a black majority country to now fitting in and being "invisible" in America.

My guess was that some black men in America chase white women out of insecurity. Status (this one explains whale chasers), a sense of inferiority about physical appearance, who knows. I wanted to see if some were honest enough to admit if they did have a specific reason, however shameful, for chasing white women. I at least have respect for a black man who says that he only goes for white women. He's being honest.

If you're interested in knowing what most black men like, then pick up lifestyle magazines marketed to black men like King for example. Or look at the women used in rap videos. I think that's the best indicator of what black guys like. Black men in general tend to have a preference for lighter skinned black women with large asses. For example, Esther Baxter or Shaneka Adams. I know personally I'd fuck them over almost any white woman. I mean Meagan Fox may be beautiful but she doesn't have that kind of ass you can only find on a black(or some Latin) woman.

For white men that go to southeast Asia for pussy, I consider them losers. Many of them go there because they have no other choice.

So what about white guys that go to S. America or E. Europe? Are they losers too?

@Speakeasy- I agree with you regards to the universal preference for lighter skin women.My problem with this with regards to a lot of Black men is that they deny it. They blame Black women's "attitude" and weight issues as the reason why they go after non black women instead of coming out and saying "I like women with lighter skin, keen facial features and the like and I don't care how skinny and attractive a Black women is because I am just not into them".

There's no getting around the fact that 4 out of 5 African-American women are either overweight or obese: http://www.womenshealth.gov/minority-health/african-americans/obesity.cfm

Now not all men mind that obviously and black men are quite easily the most tolerant men toward large sized women, but if you want a woman that's in good shape that's going to take a lot of black American women off the table from consideration. No getting around that fact. And personality-wise you aren't going to find a lot of black American women with a more sweet, soft, compliant demeanor like you would with say a traditional Asian women for example. It's just not in the culture for them to act that way. They are more into the "I'm a strooooong sista and ain't no man tellin' me what to do...I make my own money, I don't need me no man..." type of attitude. Not all of course, but a significant amount do act like this and if that's not your thing, between the weight factor and the attitude, your pickings are going to be pretty slim.

 

[Hoover]

I would take the two women you mentioned over Megan Fox. The problem with these hot celebrities is that Hollywood hypes them up and makes men think that they have to find these actresses attractive. They are too thin.

I didn't say anything negative about South America or Eastern Europe because the women do possess many qualities that trump American women. Every place has its whores, but it's just that Thailand is so saturated with them. Going to Japan is a big jump from Thailand.

It's ridiculous how rare the combination of good looks like the two you mentioned with the right personality is then for black women.

Black America, like the rest of America, is dead then. No one wants to raise families anymore.

 

[speakeasy]

I was just reading an article about the former Obama green energy czar Van Jones. I noticed he has a white wife. No homo shit or nothing but he's a fairly good looking dude.

Did he marry up or down? I'm talking only looks-wise of course, she may be awesome person and a great fit for him. But based on the physical, I think he could've gotten a much better looking black woman.

 

[jariel]

She'd be spending her Saturdays with Lifetime and a bag of Tostitos if it weren't for him.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Why do middle aged white women travel in packs to the Caribbean/West Africa to sleep with young black boys?

Because their own men wont fuck them anymore?

There is nothing admirable in eating someone elses scraps lads.

LMAOOOOOOOO! Hooligan Harry, you are killing me with the phrases, bruv ahahahahaha!

But real talk, the young black boys are looking for a comeup, they are trying to and getting money for services rendered. There is a gap between the haves and the have nots and the sex helps bridge those gaps.

I was schooling a young male in DR on how to get the come up from lizards who vacation in DR. It is what it is. When your stomach is growling, scraps will be steak. As they say, one man's food is another man's poison.

The lizards that some of you mans are wanking over, there are guys out there that want nothing to do with them.

Hahahahahaha

Ok I can see how that would have been misinterpreted.

What I meant was

1) If the brothers in Jamaica or Port of Spain can play toy boy for a few weeks fucking desperate chicks, then all the more power to them. I say high 5's to them, although in all honesty most of those women are going to be bottom feeders. Maybe one or two have their fetish, but I think most are going to be fat, middle aged divorcees looking for any ol young dick.

2) The brothers at home are the ones happy to fight over another mans scraps if they are younger men chasing older, worn out tail. Just like you wont see many white guys chasing obese black women, so to you should not be seeing black guys chasing middle aged white fatties. When they do, that is nothing to respect I am afraid. Anyone can fuck those women and the reason anyone can fuck those women are because they are 2's and 3's.

Thats not game, its like buying the love of a retarded child with ice cream.

 

[Theogreat]

Why do middle aged white women travel in packs to the Caribbean/West Africa to sleep with young black boys?

Because their own men wont fuck them anymore?

There is nothing admirable in eating someone elses scraps lads.

LMAOOOOOOOO! Hooligan Harry, you are killing me with the phrases, bruv ahahahahaha!

But real talk, the young black boys are looking for a comeup, they are trying to and getting money for services rendered. There is a gap between the haves and the have nots and the sex helps bridge those gaps.

I was schooling a young male in DR on how to get the come up from lizards who vacation in DR. It is what it is. When your stomach is growling, scraps will be steak. As they say, one man's food is another man's poison.

The lizards that some of you mans are wanking over, there are guys out there that want nothing to do with them.

Hahahahahaha

Ok I can see how that would have been misinterpreted.

What I meant was

1) If the brothers in Jamaica or Port of Spain can play toy boy for a few weeks fucking desperate chicks, then all the more power to them. I say high 5's to them, although in all honesty most of those women are going to be bottom feeders. Maybe one or two have their fetish, but I think most are going to be fat, middle aged divorcees looking for any ol young dick.

2) The brothers at home are the ones happy to fight over another mans scraps if they are younger men chasing older, worn out tail. Just like you wont see many white guys chasing obese black women, so to you should not be seeing black guys chasing middle aged white fatties. When they do, that is nothing to respect I am afraid. Anyone can fuck those women and the reason anyone can fuck those women are because they are 2's and 3's.

Thats not game, its like buying the love of a retarded child with ice cream.

++++++++1

 

[Hoover]

speakeasy,

He did marry down. I'm getting a Midwest vibe from her though. She must make up for her appearance with a pleasant personality. I think it was a trade-off for the long term.

 

[Theogreat]

I was just reading an article about the former Obama green energy czar Van Jones. I noticed he has a white wife. No homo shit or nothing but he's a fairly good looking dude.

Did he marry up or down? I'm talking only looks-wise of course, she may be awesome person and a great fit for him. But based on the physical, I think he could've gotten a much better looking black woman.

Of course he married down. I wish some people would be honest with themselves and others about why they exclusively date IR. I've found that it is hard to find black people who will admit that they exclusively date 'others' because that is who they are most physically attracted to. This seems to be an issue that is exclusive to African-Americans, and hence we seem to be the only group who fight so much over IR dating/relationships.

I think it is very hard for black men who feel this way to accept their attraction to women who look completely different from themselves and their family so they try to justify their attraction by turning it into something else and playing the blame game.It is much more acceptable to make generalizations regarding the personality and character of black women than to stand up and saying "I prefer white women because I just find them more attractive than black women" they turn it into "I prefer white women because there are no suitable black women out there and x,y,z..." For them to admit to themselves that they find white women more attractive would justify the same Eurocentric beauty standards that work in favor of white men. It's an ongoing internal struggle. Who wants to risk the backlash from such a statement when you could simply justify your preferences by playing the victim?

This same internal struggle is less likely to exist with other groups, especially whites, because they do not feel guilty about finding another race more attractive than their own. Ask a white man/woman who exclusively dates IR to explain why and I guarantee the first thing they will say is "I find men/women of color more attractive." Ask this same question to a black person and they'll start talking about how black men/woman ain't sh1t, have attitudes, are lazy, suck at life, etc...

 

[Moma]

Marriage is more than good looks. Looks will not carry a marriage through for 10-20 + years so saying someone married down based on looks is rather silly unless the lizard is absolutely atrocious.
From my observation based on the picture, she has a nice face. Her clothes aren't so classy but a simple switch in garms can take a lizard up at least two points.
I deem her 5.5 right there, she has a nice smile and a pink complexion. Pull her hair back, throw on a better dress and she could hit the higher 6's, maybe even get into 7's (depending on how her body is).

Now, as long as she passes his boner test, we have to look at the qualities she brings for a long term.

In this day and era, a man cannot have a lizard as a partner who brings NOTHING to the table but looks.
I wouldn't do it because if my situation was to go down and I needed moral support or someone with some ideas to get my situ right again, that very lizard with her 8/9 looks would put my ass in the gutter.

For marriage, I think looks shouldn't play too much of a strong part..as long as she is reasonably attractive, I think the bonding of personality and looks should be the key..otherwise, why get married?

 

[Kish]

For some reason in America it's ok for a black man to date a Fat/ugly, Gabourey Sidibe looking black chick but if he marries/dates an average looking white chic with a good job he's "dating down".

It's pretty sad. If i walk into a black club with a girl looking like Gabourey Sidibe nobody would think i'm dating down(even tho I'm tall and in shape). But if I walk into the same club with a plain jane white girl..somehow that equates to me hating my mom and loving European features.

 

[Moma]

For some reason in America it's ok for a black man to date a Fat/ugly, Gabourey Sidibe looking black chick but if he marries/dates an average looking white chic with a good job he's "dating down".

It's pretty sad. If i walk into a black club with a girl looking like Gabourey Sidibe nobody would think i'm dating down(even tho I'm tall and in shape). But if I walk into the same club with a plain jane white girl..somehow that equates to me hating my mom and loving European features.

I guess one of the whole idea is that if you are going to date outside of your race, you will deal with a lot of issues (especially if it is black in white) so you need to make it worthwhile by getting yourself a bomshell. You need a stunner that will make you not regret your movement when you go somewhere where the regular patrons or bar owners refuse to serve you or deliberately overlook you when you are trying to get service like everyone else etc..

 

[Theogreat]

For some reason in America it's ok for a black man to date a Fat/ugly, Gabourey Sidibe looking black chick but if he marries/dates an average looking white chic with a good job he's "dating down".

It's pretty sad. If i walk into a black club with a girl looking like Gabourey Sidibe nobody would think i'm dating down(even tho I'm tall and in shape). But if I walk into the same club with a plain jane white girl..somehow that equates to me hating my mom and loving European features.

I guess one of the whole idea is that if you are going to date outside of your race, you will deal with a lot of issues (especially if it is black in white) so you need to make it worthwhile by getting yourself a bomshell. You need a stunner that will make you not regret your movement when you go somewhere where the regular patrons or bar owners refuse to serve you or deliberately overlook you when you are trying to get service like everyone else etc..

Exactly Moma. The idea is this if you are going to be dating trash make sure its trash within your own race.

 

[afronoob]

I was just reading an article about the former Obama green energy czar Van Jones. I noticed he has a white wife. No homo shit or nothing but he's a fairly good looking dude.

Did he marry up or down? I'm talking only looks-wise of course, she may be awesome person and a great fit for him. But based on the physical, I think he could've gotten a much better looking black woman.

I definitely agree. Fyi, OP spend a weekend at any Mombasa hotel. SHIT IS CRAAZZZYY! Married honeymooners from Italy/Holland/Germany/UK/US getting dicked occasionally with the full knowledge of the husband. Those bitches just want the blacksnake-you can comment on our post racial world/new morality or modern situational ethics but those are the facts. So I do believe those black teens could be onto something,though I admit am too far away to have any definite knowledge.

 

[speakeasy]

Of course he married down. I wish some people would be honest with themselves and others about why they exclusively date IR. I've found that it is hard to find black people who will admit that they exclusively date 'others' because that is who they are most physically attracted to. This seems to be an issue that is exclusive to African-Americans, and hence we seem to be the only group who fight so much over IR dating/relationships.

I think it is very hard for black men who feel this way to accept their attraction to women who look completely different from themselves and their family so they try to justify their attraction by turning it into something else and playing the blame game.It is much more acceptable to make generalizations regarding the personality and character of black women than to stand up and saying "I prefer white women because I just find them more attractive than black women" they turn it into "I prefer white women because there are no suitable black women out there and x,y,z..." For them to admit to themselves that they find white women more attractive would justify the same Eurocentric beauty standards that work in favor of white men. It's an ongoing internal struggle. Who wants to risk the backlash from such a statement when you could simply justify your preferences by playing the victim?

This same internal struggle is less likely to exist with other groups, especially whites, because they do not feel guilty about finding another race more attractive than their own. Ask a white man/woman who exclusively dates IR to explain why and I guarantee the first thing they will say is "I find men/women of color more attractive." Ask this same question to a black person and they'll start talking about how black men/woman ain't sh1t, have attitudes, are lazy, suck at life, etc...

I really have no major disagreement with anything you said here. I think for blacks there is a strong sense of "peoplehood" and to prefer something outside of your group is tantamount to being a defector. Especially with the group that is your historic oppressor/enslaver. So yeah, it's obvious why there is shame involved and a lot of hangups and hurt in the black community about this topic.

That said, many black women aren't exactly doing their best to make themselves competitive in the dating market. While you can't change your skin color, you CAN easily change your weight. Getting in shape is not that hard. Can someone explain to me why 4 out of 5 black American women are either overweight or obese? Forget the attraction issue, think of what this is doing to the rates of diabetes, heart disease and cancer. There needs to be more awareness on this matter.

 

[Theogreat]

Of course he married down. I wish some people would be honest with themselves and others about why they exclusively date IR. I've found that it is hard to find black people who will admit that they exclusively date 'others' because that is who they are most physically attracted to. This seems to be an issue that is exclusive to African-Americans, and hence we seem to be the only group who fight so much over IR dating/relationships.

I think it is very hard for black men who feel this way to accept their attraction to women who look completely different from themselves and their family so they try to justify their attraction by turning it into something else and playing the blame game.It is much more acceptable to make generalizations regarding the personality and character of black women than to stand up and saying "I prefer white women because I just find them more attractive than black women" they turn it into "I prefer white women because there are no suitable black women out there and x,y,z..." For them to admit to themselves that they find white women more attractive would justify the same Eurocentric beauty standards that work in favor of white men. It's an ongoing internal struggle. Who wants to risk the backlash from such a statement when you could simply justify your preferences by playing the victim?

This same internal struggle is less likely to exist with other groups, especially whites, because they do not feel guilty about finding another race more attractive than their own. Ask a white man/woman who exclusively dates IR to explain why and I guarantee the first thing they will say is "I find men/women of color more attractive." Ask this same question to a black person and they'll start talking about how black men/woman ain't sh1t, have attitudes, are lazy, suck at life, etc...

I really have no major disagreement with anything you said here. I think for blacks there is a strong sense of "peoplehood" and to prefer something outside of your group is tantamount to being a defector. Especially with the group that is your historic oppressor/enslaver. So yeah, it's obvious why there is shame involved and a lot of hangups and hurt in the black community about this topic.

That said, many black women aren't exactly doing their best to make themselves competitive in the dating market. While you can't change your skin color, you CAN easily change your weight. Getting in shape is not that hard. Can someone explain to me why 4 out of 5 black American women are either overweight or obese? Forget the attraction issue, think of what this is doing to the rates of diabetes, heart disease and cancer. There needs to be more awareness on this matter.

Speakeasy,
Please take a look at the statistics for obesity among white and hispanic women, they are very similar to Black women. Even if every Black woman in America today decided to lose weight and lose the attitude they would still be low in the SMP. Getting in shape does not change facial features, skin color, or hair texture.

 

[Moma]

Speakeasy,
Please take a look at the statistics for obesity among white and hispanic women, they are very similar to Black women. Even if every Black woman in America today decided to lose weight and lose the attitude they would still be low in the SMP. Getting in shape does not change facial features, skin color, or hair texture.

I disagree strongly. This may be controversial but I think the standard of beauty is based off of the black lizard. Look at lipstick. It accentuates the lips and makes them bigger and redder. Many black lizards have naturally big lips so all they need is some lip gloss and done.
I know some lizards that whinge and complain because their lips are thin.
Look at the new rage about ass. Lots of implants going into the ass. Tanning salons. I know many lizards that say oh I am going to get a tan..I don't like looking like this..blah blah.

I know a lot of brothas who are strictly into white women and most of the them do it because of less drama (attitude) and the fact that they don't want to have to be able to bench 300lbs just to throw their bitchez around in the bedroom.

I was at Caribana this weekend and then Jambana the day after and the sistas there looked damn good (in the face) but so many of them looked like trucks on two legs..but they know that dudes are still jumping over each other to ease their sticks into this mammoths so they have no incentive to lose weight. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

Sexual incentive is usually the driving force for a lot of people to change (improve) their looks. Why do dudes get haircuts? Shaves? Wear nice cologne? Buy new shirts and trousers?
Shiit back in the day, I only got a haircut when I secured a date and the same goes for a shave.
One lizard I had newly opened (a Harlesden chick) told me she'd break me off something if I got a haircut.

Why do women walk in painful high heels and stuff thong strings up their arses? Do their hair, painful braids etc?
To attract males.
Why would a woman (who is not an athlete) go to the gym to lose weight?

To quote Mixx, a woman loves attention even more than dyck. If a fat chick is getting lots of attention - "gurrll, you got a ghetto booty" why would she be bothered to exert any discipline?

Why do guys go to the gym? Two reasons.

1) To improve their sports performance
2) To attract more lizards.

As we all know, not many dudes older than 21 are really tumping iron for that improved American football performance.

In South London, the gyms were often packed because in London, you could literally lay a black lizard off of a tight body type.
Weigh the cost of a gym membership or even pushups in your council flat over buying Moschino jeans, Christian Dior shirts.

I was never a cat into putting down major cheese for the garms and when I got my body right, I could write a living testimony on how many lizards I was able to get my bellend into.