Why do left wing millennials shit on boomers when they are literally boomers 2.0.?
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We're a smaller cohort, a lot less influential culturally and politically, and not as "wild" and prone to excess as Boomers, more centrists than anything else, as a reaction to the excesses of Boomer parents, whereas Boomers are split into war-loving, free trade ideologue BoomerCons and anti-Christian cultural marxist ex-hippies.
We grew up in the 70s and 80s, mostly times of economic contraction and scarcity, as opposed to the opulent post-war boom where people had the lattitude to navel gaze and try out new shiny cultural ideas and indulge into their sex-drugs-rock&roll hedonistic utopia larping as revolution against "the man".
We grew up in the 70s and 80s, mostly times of economic contraction and scarcity, as opposed to the opulent post-war boom where people had the lattitude to navel gaze and try out new shiny cultural ideas and indulge into their sex-drugs-rock&roll hedonistic utopia larping as revolution against "the man".
for.petes.sake
Robin
In terms of progressive and economic polices boomers and left-wing millennials are very different. A lot of left wing millennials say that boomer's choices have screwed over millennials but millennials keep choosing to be screwed over.
Here is a vice video of a guy complaining about high rent prices and how to stop it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xKz5AcuXE
His solution, rent control. Basically severely regulate rent prices. He gives an example of a rent controlled house where the prices have not gone up since the 70s. Never mind the fact this will severely hurt landlords because inflation, demand, and upkeep (because services will increase with inflation). He then states:
"but naturally anything that helps out actual people and takes money out of some rich assholes pockets is going to face a lot of opposition. Critics of URC have said policies like these will disincentive landlords from or staying on top of building upkeep. They've also said it disincentives further real estate development which to me people not wanting to gentrify your neighborhood"
When he was met with valid arguments against UCR his retort was that those are invalid since they would be promoting "gentrification".
Rent is high because of supply and demand. On the supply side we have too many stupid regulation preventing development. Even when they are met if development hurts someones feelings then it can still get shut down (here is a video showing how development gets stopped in San Francisco because of gentrification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgxwKnH8y4)
On the demand side, stupid progressive polices like mass immigration has brought in thousands of people who are now competing for these housing units. Yet the millennial blames the economics and not his own stupid progressive ways.
Here is a vice video of a guy complaining about high rent prices and how to stop it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xKz5AcuXE
His solution, rent control. Basically severely regulate rent prices. He gives an example of a rent controlled house where the prices have not gone up since the 70s. Never mind the fact this will severely hurt landlords because inflation, demand, and upkeep (because services will increase with inflation). He then states:
"but naturally anything that helps out actual people and takes money out of some rich assholes pockets is going to face a lot of opposition. Critics of URC have said policies like these will disincentive landlords from or staying on top of building upkeep. They've also said it disincentives further real estate development which to me people not wanting to gentrify your neighborhood"
When he was met with valid arguments against UCR his retort was that those are invalid since they would be promoting "gentrification".
Rent is high because of supply and demand. On the supply side we have too many stupid regulation preventing development. Even when they are met if development hurts someones feelings then it can still get shut down (here is a video showing how development gets stopped in San Francisco because of gentrification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgxwKnH8y4)
On the demand side, stupid progressive polices like mass immigration has brought in thousands of people who are now competing for these housing units. Yet the millennial blames the economics and not his own stupid progressive ways.
for.petes.sake said:
What are some places in the United States where Millennials have successfully advocated for rent control?
My thoughts are that boomers sold out future generations for material goods.
Millennials are fucked up, but there’s a generation in between that you’re missing.
They’re the ones that brought up all these fragile kids that can’t cope with anything, never learned that losing sucks, etc. They’re the ones that gave everybody trophies for being mediocre, and that tried to “nerf” the world.
Millennials do get shit on a lot, but their parents made them what they are.
Millennials are fucked up, but there’s a generation in between that you’re missing.
They’re the ones that brought up all these fragile kids that can’t cope with anything, never learned that losing sucks, etc. They’re the ones that gave everybody trophies for being mediocre, and that tried to “nerf” the world.
Millennials do get shit on a lot, but their parents made them what they are.
for.petes.sake
Robin
SamuelBRoberts said:
I dont know any place where rent control policies have been successfully implemented but what I do know is that in major leftist areas such the bay area and new York have leftist groups that try to push for more rent control. Actually the video does give an example of a city that implemented rent control but I cant remember the city name and I do not want to watch the video again.
Excellent point.
Looks like the globalist plan has been in place since at least the mid 70’s.
My primary school had 1 Indian kid and one mullato kid that I can remember. My younger sibling is a school teacher and the majority of the class is middle eastern or African.
We have indeed been replaced.
Looks like the globalist plan has been in place since at least the mid 70’s.
My primary school had 1 Indian kid and one mullato kid that I can remember. My younger sibling is a school teacher and the majority of the class is middle eastern or African.
We have indeed been replaced.
for.petes.sake said:
Boomer: "Millennials are fucking themselves over by enacting rent control! It's their fault they can't afford even a 1 room apartment!"
Millennial: "What are some places where Millennials have enacted rent control?"
Boomer: "I don't know, and I'm not gonna take the time to check!"
Yeah this is why people hate Boomers.
BortimusPrime
Ostrich
Gee, if I had to keep rent down to artificially low levels due to a housing shortage, I sure wouldn't be willing to accept bribes from potential tenants to rent my super in-demand apartments. No way that would happen...
BortimusPrime
Ostrich
Lampwick said:
It's really more of a tragedy of the commons problem. Politicians pander to the largest voting bloc by protecting the entitlement programs that benefit them.
The obnoxious aspect of the boomers isn't really anything they individually did, it's more their tendency to take credit for the cushy time and place they were born into and then carp about younger generations being no good. Like with education: every time I've heard about a boomer's college experience it involved plenty of partying or dithering around, yet they ended up doing fine even with a froofy humanities degree. But this day in age when a Millennial does the same thing and gets a silly degree he'll be fucked up the ass and suddenly it's bad character and all his fault for poor decision-making.
Thersites
Kingfisher
BortimusPrime said:
Every couple of months I see the whole "Boomer suck" discussion popping up. If there is one thread that I picked up for all those discussion is the fact that Boomers as whole generation have failed to acknowledge the world is a screwed up place, partial, do to their choices. A generation of Dr. Pangloss from Candide, boasting that we live in the best of all possible world, as their children and grandchildren are subjected to the bad outcomes of their poorly thought out decisions.
Its the dishonest that they can not understand that they fucked up and should make amends for their actions. They can only see and feel for the short term actions and consequences of their current existence, while many of us in those pockets of sanity in this clown world are seeing the long term consequence of unaddressed issues. The only we can do now is find the lost fragments of Western World that the Boomer have destroy and mend into a better future, instead of complaining of avocado toast.
RE: Why do left wing millennials s
The thing many are missing when they try to understand the 1960s, is how little control most people actually have over their own minds. I still remember when the hippies came out, the construction workers hated the hippies and would beat them up. In merely one or two years later, the same construction workers were wearing long hair down to their waistes and smoking pot. The reality is that it was a very small group of manipulators supported by the media that changed the entire society. People are herd animals and easy to manipulate. It's like blaming a robot for its role in assembling a car. The manipulators don't get blamed because they remain invisible. It all looks spontaneous and supports the illusion of free will.
The thing many are missing when they try to understand the 1960s, is how little control most people actually have over their own minds. I still remember when the hippies came out, the construction workers hated the hippies and would beat them up. In merely one or two years later, the same construction workers were wearing long hair down to their waistes and smoking pot. The reality is that it was a very small group of manipulators supported by the media that changed the entire society. People are herd animals and easy to manipulate. It's like blaming a robot for its role in assembling a car. The manipulators don't get blamed because they remain invisible. It all looks spontaneous and supports the illusion of free will.
Again I'm a boomer (on the younger side, not a straight hippy but knew a lot of them). It's my group and I've watched them my whole life.
Boomers are 180 degrees opposite of the World War 2 generation. The WW2 people would do what it took, sacrifice their lives as needed, to give their children a better life.
Boomers would sacrifice their children's future to indulge themselves, then make up some BS reasons why it's the right thing. They are the most narcissistic group of humans ever to have lived. Ever.
Don't tell me: "oh, they're misunderstood". That's bullshit. They are easy to understand. They are selfish narcissistic assholes. Sure, brilliant and successful in their prime, and created a lot of amazing things, but now that they're getting old, their veneer of success is wearing down and all we see are selfish old fucks grinding their children and grandchildren into dirt poverty to feed their massive egos.
Of course they will win. Their kids don't have the numbers or the balls to resist them. After the last of the boomers die, the kids will be standing in a wasteland, looking at burned-out factories and ghettos, gated communities where the billionaire's have separated from the commoners. The middle class gone. Police and government owned by the rich and the corporations. The dreams of a healthy futuristic middle-class society, the dreams of the post-WW2 generation, destroyed - not - by any external foe, but by the greed and degradation of the boomers.
The kids of the boomers will have to fix it somehow. Or it collapses and we end up in a new Great Depression and war.
Boomers are 180 degrees opposite of the World War 2 generation. The WW2 people would do what it took, sacrifice their lives as needed, to give their children a better life.
Boomers would sacrifice their children's future to indulge themselves, then make up some BS reasons why it's the right thing. They are the most narcissistic group of humans ever to have lived. Ever.
Don't tell me: "oh, they're misunderstood". That's bullshit. They are easy to understand. They are selfish narcissistic assholes. Sure, brilliant and successful in their prime, and created a lot of amazing things, but now that they're getting old, their veneer of success is wearing down and all we see are selfish old fucks grinding their children and grandchildren into dirt poverty to feed their massive egos.
Of course they will win. Their kids don't have the numbers or the balls to resist them. After the last of the boomers die, the kids will be standing in a wasteland, looking at burned-out factories and ghettos, gated communities where the billionaire's have separated from the commoners. The middle class gone. Police and government owned by the rich and the corporations. The dreams of a healthy futuristic middle-class society, the dreams of the post-WW2 generation, destroyed - not - by any external foe, but by the greed and degradation of the boomers.
The kids of the boomers will have to fix it somehow. Or it collapses and we end up in a new Great Depression and war.
MrLemon said:
The problem with your thinking (and the main reason why we've clashed on this forum) is that you believe that this state of things is purely spontaneous: boomers are just selfish, narcissistic people, women are just plain evil etc.
Somehow women were great until the 1960s, when they suddenly became nasty man-hating feminists, and people were great in the 1950s, then they spontaneously became selfish douches?...
Fact is, there was an agenda. The leading feminist figure and biggest change agent was Gloria Steinem, a CIA agent who lived large and dated globalists like Kissinger and Mort Zuckerman between marches with brainwashed shiksas, where she tells them that "they need men like a fish needs a bicycle".
The Frankfurt School was shipped over postwar and posted all over American academia. Sex and drugs were relentlessly pushed on the leftie Boomers on one hand, while on the right, shills like William Buckley herded conservative BoomerCons into right-wing globalism (pro war, zionist free trade laisser-faire civic nationalism).