Why do people become furries?

911

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PapayaTapper said:
Its easy an easy answer once you recognize where we are in the cycle of civilizations


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Compare a young man's life today to the other extreme...ancient Sparta




. Spartans had to prove their fitness even as infants.
Infanticide was a disturbingly common act in the ancient world, but in Sparta this practice was organized and managed by the state. All Spartan infants were brought before a council of inspectors and examined for physical defects, and those who weren’t up to standards were left to die. The ancient historian Plutarch claimed these “ill-born” Spartan babies were tossed into a chasm at the foot of Mount Taygetus, but most historians now dismiss this as a myth. If a Spartan baby was judged to be unfit for its future duty as a soldier, it was most likely abandoned on a nearby hillside. Left alone, the child would either die of exposure or be rescued and adopted by strangers.

Babies who passed inspection still didn’t have it easy. To test their constitutions, Spartan infants were often bathed in wine instead of water. They were also frequently ignored when they cried and commanded never to fear darkness or solitude. According to Plutarch, these “tough love” parenting techniques were so admired by foreigners that Spartan women were widely sought after for their skill as nurses and nannies.

2. Spartan children were placed in a military-style education program.
At the age of 7, Spartan boys were removed from their parents’ homes and began the “agoge,” a state-sponsored training regimen designed to mold them into skilled warriors and moral citizens. Separated from their families and housed in communal barracks, the young soldiers-in-waiting were instructed in scholastics, warfare, stealth, hunting and athletics. At age 12, initiates were deprived of all clothing save for a red cloak and forced to sleep outside and make their own beds from reeds. To ready them for a life in the field, the boy soldiers were also encouraged to scavenge and even steal their food, though if detected they were punished with floggings.

Just as all Spartan men were expected to be fighters, all women were expected to bear children. Spartan girls were allowed to remain with their parents, but they were also subjected to a rigorous education and training program. While boys were readied for a life on campaign, girls practiced dance, gymnastics and javelin and discus throwing, which were thought to make them physically strong for motherhood.

3. Hazing and fighting were encouraged among Spartan children.
Much of the Spartan agoge involved typical school subjects like reading, writing, rhetoric and poetry, but the training regimen also had a vicious side. To toughen the young warriors and encourage their development as soldiers, instructors and older men would often instigate fights and arguments between trainees. The agoge was partially designed to help make the youths resistant to hardships like cold, hunger and pain, and boys who showed signs of cowardice or timidity were subject to teasing and violence by peers and superiors alike.

Even Spartan girls were known to participate in this ritualized hazing. During certain religious and state ceremonies, girls would stand before Spartan dignitaries and sing choral songs about the young men of the agoge, often singling out specific trainees for ridicule in order to shame them into stepping up their performance.

4. All Spartan men were expected to be lifelong soldiers.
As grueling as Sparta’s martial education system could be, the soldier’s life was the only option for young men who wished to become equal citizens, or “Homoioi.” According to the edicts of the Spartan lawmaker and reformer Lycurgus, male citizens were legally prevented from choosing any occupation other than the military. This commitment could last for decades, as warriors were required to remain on reserve duty until the age of 60.

Because of their preoccupation with the study of warfare, Sparta’s manufacturing and agriculture were left entirely to the lower classes. Skilled laborers, traders and craftsmen were part of the “Perioeci,” a class of free non-citizens who lived in the surrounding region of Laconia. Meanwhile, agriculture and food production fell to the enslaved Helots, a servile class that made up the majority of Sparta’s population. Ironically, constant fear of Helot revolts and uprisings was a major reason why the Spartan elite became so devoted to building a strong military in the first place.

5. Spartan youths were ritualistically beaten and flogged.
One of Sparta’s most brutal practices involved a so-called “contest of endurance” in which adolescents were flogged—sometimes to the death—in front of an altar at the sanctuary of Artemis Orthia. Known as the “diamastigosis,” this annual practice was originally used as both a religious ritual and a test of the boys’ bravery and resistance to pain. It later devolved into an outright blood sport after Sparta went into decline and fell under control of the Roman Empire. By the third century A.D. there was even an amphitheater constructed so that scores of tourists could cheer on the grisly ordeal.

6. Food was intentionally kept scarce, and poor fitness was cause for ridicule.
When a Spartan man completed the main phase of the agoge at around age 21, he was elected to a “syssitia”—a military-style mess where citizens gathered for public meals. To prepare soldiers for the strain of war and discourage poor fitness, the rations doled out at these communal dining halls were always bland and slightly insufficient. Spartans were renowned for their devotion to physical fitness and proper diet, and they reserved a special loathing for overweight citizens, who were publicly ridiculed and risked being banished from the city-state.

Wine was a staple of the Spartan diet, but they rarely drank to excess and often cautioned their children against drunkenness. In some cases, they would even force Helot slaves to get wildly inebriated as a way of showing young Spartans the negative effects of alcohol.

7. Spartan men were not allowed to live with their wives until age 30.
Spartan society didn’t discourage romantic love, but marriage and childrearing were both subject to some peculiar cultural and governmental constraints. The state counseled that men should marry at age 30 and women at 20. Since all men were required to live in a military barracks until 30, couples who married earlier were forced to live separately until the husband completed his active duty military service.

The Spartans saw marriage primarily as a means for conceiving new soldiers, and citizens were encouraged to consider the health and fitness of their mate before tying the knot. In fact, husbands who were unable to have children were expected to seek out virile substitutes to impregnate their wives. Likewise, bachelors were seen as neglecting their duty and were often publically mocked and humiliated at religious festivals.

8. Surrender in battle was the ultimate disgrace.
Spartan soldiers were expected to fight without fear and to the last man. Surrender was viewed as the epitome of cowardice, and warriors who voluntarily laid down their arms were so shamed that they often resorted to suicide. According to the ancient historian Herodotus, two Spartan soldiers who missed out on the famous Battle of Thermopylae returned to their homeland disgraced. One later hanged himself, and the other was only redeemed after he died fighting in a later engagement.

Even Spartan mothers were known for their do-or-die approach to military campaigns. Spartan women are said to have sent their sons off to war with a chilling reminder: “Return with your shield or on it.” If a Spartan trooper died in battle, he was viewed as having completed his duty as a citizen. In fact, the law mandated that only two classes of people could have their names inscribed on their tombstones: women who died in childbirth and men who fell in combat.

We all currently live in the most "successful" time in human history in terms of safety, health , opportunity, access to information, life expectancy etc, . Its taken thousands of years of incredible effort and achievement in order for young men to be afforded the opportunity to be (insert your choice of the following): furries, pot smoking video gamers, participation trophy winners, whiners, moms basement dwellers, polygamous cucks, etc etc

Furry is just one form of many of the same thing: Surrender

A couple of counterpoints here:

-We don't live in a period of abundance, there has been a marked economic decline in the West, and increased anxiety over the future, with each generation getting poorer, and more difficult prospects of building families, career and buying a house.

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So it's not a case of good times creating weak men. Young men have fewer viable career paths and problems launching their lives, which makes them more susceptible to escapism in the form of drugs, sex, infantilism and nihilism.

-This degeneracy is actively promoted by the oligarchs; opiates are the actual opiates of the masses, along with porn and escapist culture of videogames and geekdom, to build alternative identities that distracts them from their economic decline. This is a weaponized, taylored version of pornography that blends porn with geek culture, fostering early adoption, dysfunction and social isolation.


-Spartan culture was crap, the worst in Greek civilization, a culture where pederasty and homosexuality were standard. It was the gayest culture in the history of civilization, bar none, San Francisco Castro on steroids, with olive oil, feta cheese and bronze helmets thrown in. Athens prevailed as a less insane, more harmonious mix of civilization and martial culture.

The satanist homo "manosphere" degenerate Jack Donovan claims to be of that spartan lineage:

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There is also a similar sub-culture within the military, in the Marines they are known as the "Cherry Marines", officers who have infiltrated the high ranks, as described in Kay Griggs' 8-hour testimony. Some of it was an outgrowth of imported SS/nazi subculture, where there were also homo circles. This is a good read on the subject, though we're getting into pretty tangential territory here:

https://infrakshun.wordpress.com/20...elpers-viii-weimar-magick-and-cherry-marines/
 

911

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Donfitz007 said:
I remember being a horny 13 year old watching some movie where the furries were fornicating in the desert. I remember thinking man that’s easy sex I would love to do that!

Now and for a while the idea disgusts me. I think the reason many people turn furry is because many of them hate their humanity. They like the simplicity of animals and the anonymous nature of the suits.

You've hit the spot there, Don. This is an effort to dehumanize people, equating them to animal, cattle or goyim. Animal rights, veganism are part of this picture, as is extreme pet culture. Those divert mothering instincts away from family and child rearing on one hand, and offer a harmless, meaningless outlet for political activism. You get soy boys and misguided girls into animal rights, veganism and climate change, they won't do anything about the real social and economic problems in the world.

The first oligarchs which promoted an actual furry-like culture were the Hungarian bolsheviks 100 years ago under Bela Kohen (Kun), under the tutelage of Culture and Education Minister György Lukács, trotskyite son of a wealthy investmenr banker turned Bolshevik/cultural subversion Kommandant:

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Lukács had Hungarian boys and girls into camps and parks where they were shown cartoons and puppet shows with strong sexual themes featuring family-less animals that the kids would embrace and identify with (guess they had Disney beat by a few decades...) Lukacs' Commisariat officially established a "Fable Department" that produced kiddie/animal sex ed material.

A Cultural Revolution

The group actually had its genesis in Moscow before officially being founded in 1923. By the early 1920s, the Bolsheviks—like Antonio Gramsci would later conclude from his Italian prison cell—realized a change in tactics was needed. The much-anticipated violent revolution of the proletariat predicted by Karl Marx to bring about communism, it turned out, would be much more difficult in Western Europe and the United States than previously anticipated. In fact, it would not be possible at all without first breaking down the cultural barriers to collectivism, they reasoned.

As such, the Communist Internationale and mass-murdering Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin’s minion Karl Radek arranged a meeting at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. Among the participants, according to historical records, were Soviet secret police boss Felix Djerzhinski, Hungarian Bolshevik “cultural commissar” Gyorgy Lukacs, and Communist Internationale (Comintern) bigwig Willi Muenzenberg.

At the Moscow meeting, the conspirators decided that what was needed was a more gradual “cultural revolution,” or what eventually came to be known as “cultural Marxism,” in the West and beyond. To advance that program, the subversives agreed on a sinister but brilliant plan. This would involve the destruction of traditional religion and the Christian culture it produced, the collapse of sexual morality and the deliberate undermining of the family, and a wrecking ball to infiltrate and demolish the existing institutions.

Some of these men had experience. For instance, Lukacs, who served as “minister of education and culture” in the Bolshevik Hungarian regime of Bela Kun, had introduced all manner of perversion and grotesque “sex education” in public schools, starting in elementary school. It was part of a campaign to destroy “bourgeois” Christian morality and sexual ethics among the youth. The objective was to eventually de-Christianize Hungary, thereby facilitating a total communist restructuring of the human mind and all of society.


So there you have it folks, here is the program. They were already up and at it 100 years ago. The irony is that in Hungary, which was communist for half a century, they are on to them, with Orban's government removing statues of Lukacz, while we fall further into engineered cultural disrepair...


Further reading on the subjec, excellent article heret:

György Lukács: Practitioner of Red Vanguardism and Cultural Nihilism

György Lukács (1885-1971) was one of the founders of western Marxism (aka cultural Marxism). He was born in Budapest, the son of wealthy Jewish investment banker Baron József Löwinger.

He was also the philosopher of Leninism. He ideologically developed and organized Lenin’s pragmatic revolutionary practices into the formal philosophy of vanguardism for the Red Terror revolution. Vanguardism is shorthand for trouble-making with the goal of divide and conquer and instilling fear in the population.

A prime example is the thought-commissar activities in the increasingly regressed country of Sweden, which we addressed in our post “In Soviet Sweden, a Social Media Snitch is a National Hero.”

Vanguardism is a strategy whereby the most “class conscious and politically advanced” sections of the proletariat, or working class, form organizations in order to draw larger sections of the working class toward revolutionary politics that develop political power against “class enemies.” The notion was “to educate” the proletariat in Marxism in order to cleanse them of their “false individual consciousness.”

Effectively, Lukács believed that to install communism, there needed to be a cultural revolution before an economic revolution. After all, the latter would involve encroaching on the turf of his beloved bankster kakistractic sponsors, wouldn’t it? Can’t have that.

The centerpiece of culture-critique Marxism and vanguardism are pushing scam concepts like “tolerance.” This is further enhanced by the use of the salami strategy (szalámitaktika) of attack, incorporating the double-bind method.

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A double bind is an emotionally distressing dilemma in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, and one message negates the other. This creates a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), so that the person will automatically be wrong regardless of response. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma and, therefore, can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation. I also like to think of this as a dead end.

Double bind quickly morphs into double think, which is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance — thus, the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

According to George Orwell’s book “1984,” double-think is:

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions, which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it.
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The salami attack is used, for instance, in preaching rigid “tolerance.” Those who object to some depravity or outrage are labelled or portrayed as fascists and Nazis; or, at the very least, fascist sympathizers. In contemporary politics, if somebody ventures into the sticky wicket of criticizing Israel or the lobbying of that foreign state, then the abused term “anti-Semite” can be rolled out. By extension, under the salami attack method, if that label sticks you are the moral equivalent of a camp guard throwing gas canisters into the alleged showers. Some how by osmosis this “slippery slope” all begins with disapproval (aka “intolerance”) of some questionable behavior or practice.

Or for those who notice the glitches in the kakistocracy matrix, there’s the “conspiracy theorist” arrow. Thus, on a number of wash-rinse-repeat fronts, the manipulator is able to get the opposition to in-fight and slice off its right wing, followed by its centrists, and then the more courageous left wingers, until only fellow travelers willing to collaborate remain in power.

During the brief Red Terror reign of the Hungarian Soviet Republic, Lukács in an article in the Népszava dated April 15, 1919, wrote that “the possession of the power of the state is also a moment for the destruction of the oppressing classes. A moment, we have to use.”

Lukács then was able to try his nihilist hand at governing as a Commissar for Education and Culture.

He knew that in order to get people to accept communism, the people would need to be culturally aligned with atheism, the irrelevance of the family, the acceptance of diversity, and the tolerance of multiculturalism. In order to achieve this, he would need to undermine the Christian family structure by promoting teenage promiscuity, teenage rebellion and arrested development.
György Lukács in 1919

Basically, all Lukács was interested in was leveling to the lowest-common Satanic denominator. In practice during 1919, he immediately set plans in motion to de-Christianize Hungary with a program of “non-judgmental tolerance.” He reasoned that if Christian sexual ethics could be undermined among children, then both the hated patriarchal family and the church would be dealt a crippling blow.

To achieve his objective, Lukács launched a radical sex education program in the schools. Sex lectures were organized and literature handed out that graphically instructed youth in free love (promiscuity) and sexual intercourse, while simultaneously encouraging them to deride and reject Christian moral ethics, monogamy and parental and church authority. All of this was accompanied by a reign of cultural terror perpetrated against parents, priests and dissenters.

After the Hungarian Red Terror was crushed, Lukács returned to intellectual eggheadism with the book “History and Class Consciousness: Studies in Marxist Dialectics.” He was one of the founders of the cultural Marxist Frankfurt school.

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Incredibly, after a lifetime of skullduggery, in the end Lukács sort of fessed up to his double-bind creation. The last sentence of this utterance is the only truism he expressed in his entire twisted life. Yes, the next time they just need to try a different version of double-think and tolerance.

“The bureaucracy generated by Stalinism is a tremendous evil. Society is suffocated by it. Everything becomes unreal, nominalistic. People see no design, no strategic aim and do not move,” Lukács wrote, and concluded that we “must learn to connect the great decisions of popular political power with personal needs, those of individuals.”

But György Lukács lives on and in a virulent form. MassResistance.org reports that during a Massachusetts Department of Education conference for 2,000 people, with Kevin Jennings as a keynote speaker, this was said:

“Fisting [forcing one’s entire hand into another person’s rectum or vagina] often gets a bad rap. … [It’s] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with … [and] to put you into an exploratory mode.”


Other things that were taught were homosexual oral sex techniques, sado-masochism techniques, girls using “dildos” and rubbing their sex organs together for pleasure, and much more.

https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/03/gyorgy-lukacs-practitioner-of-vanguardism-and-cultural-nihilism/


And there you have it folks...
 

d'Aversa

 
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911 said:
-Spartan culture was crap, the worst in Greek civilization, a culture where pederasty and homosexuality were standard. It was the gayest culture in the history of civilization, bar none, San Francisco Castro on steroids, with olive oil, feta cheese and bronze helmets thrown in. Athens prevailed as a less insane, more harmonious mix of civilization and martial culture.

Could you provide any source for this? Again, no retardopedia articles, please. I challenge your views because you seem to be putting a lot of effort into your posts, and I'd like to know where it comes from. The myth of Greek faggotry is one of the greatest modern subversions of history, and it works twofold - on the one hand, it tries to validate modern homosexual lifestyle, and on the other hand it corrupts and distorts the truth about one of greatest, if not the greatest civilizations of our history.

Paradoxically, Ancient Hellenes despised homosexuality. In Athens, practicing it (in any way) was a valid cause for stripping of citizenship, as we can see in "Against Timarchus". There's even a play where Athenian wives rebel against their husbands being absent and threaten to withhold sex from them - and instead of fucking each other, the men caved in to their demands. Erastei and eromenoi, "lovers" and "loved ones" had no sexual connotation whatsoever - older boys were tasked with mentoring their younger friends, and any sexual relations were prohibited. Opinions that a younger boy was supposed to be a de facto sex slave for the older one is completely preposterous and doesn't hold water even when using pure logic to dismiss it: how would one expect a man, who has been forcibly used by another in his most vulnerable and moldable part of adolescence, to grow up as a valuable member of society? How would the Spartans form a cohesive and effective fighting force, how would they form families and function in society if they would have been used like that? And don't even get me started on vases - the existence of pornographic art, extremely rare among the archaeologic findings (about 30 in a sample of 600 have been found; and none of them showed penetrative intercourse, only "femorum diductio") doesn't prove that these practices were widely accepted. They weren't. A modern low-IQ knucklehead, seeing a picture of two nude men fighting or wrestling, might giggle and think about it as "gay", because it's a reaction to modern, supra-sexual nudity that media are overflowing with. A more intelligent man, or even a (unbiased) researcher, should avoid using modern world views when describing civilizations preceding our own by thousands of years.

Here's a good book on the subject.
https://archive.org/details/AdonisGeorgiadesHomosexualityInAncientGreeceTheMythIsCollapsing
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

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Here is an easy way to debunk the "ancient homosexual civilizations" nonsense: rampant homosexuality is so destructive that it has laid waste to our entire society within just one generation - and this is the richest, most prosperous, technologically advanced society in the history of the world!

It's been only half a century at most and we already have numerous plagues such as AIDS, incurable STDs, permanent diarrhea and mass infertility, accompanied by more subtle but not any less dangerous phenomena such as emotional infantilization, pointless thrill-seeking, attention-whoring, family formation collapse, etc.

Are we supposed to believe that Ancient Greeks were wasting their health, time and priorities on homosexuality to such an extent that it dwarfed even the most modern era, yet despite that somehow maintained powerful empires for a thousand years? Please.

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Normal sexual perversion - should be banned in public and promotion even if you cannot limit everything.

Many of them are into zoophilia and even fucking animal-corpses:



I don't care why people are into pedophilia, zoophilia or necrophilia. All of it should be punished by law - at best you study the causes when you lock them up in asylums.
 

Er Miqué

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Men who don't grow up past the "ohhh Disney animal movies" and generally tend to mix adult sexuality with that. Since being rejected by everyone else, they get to focus their sexual interest into those animal drawings that they used to love since children instead of real people and then such thing happens; these people "get in love" with those fictitious characters and alienate themselves from humans choosing instead to masturbate with those images, since it's easier and they feel some kind of emotional attachment to it (like otakus and their "hentai" stuff saying that "waifus" are better than real women).

Not all furries have such sexual depravations and their sexuality is a somewhat normal one just replacing a human mate with a fictitious animal one. Yet with time they get deeper in the rabbit hole and then such things as zoophilia and stuff happens.

The best way to cure a furry is real human contact, privation from the internet and a good exorcism.
 

CynicalContrarian

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Bear in mind.
In some cases, it's not just the 'fun' or anonymity of wearing a costume.
Some deranged freaks even go so far as to ask accommodating hotels to provide litter trays & pet food bowls, to allow the deranged freaks to actually live as animals... :S

Joe Rogan talks furries

 

Handsome Creepy Eel

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How are any of these people still alive if they have sex while wearing those heavy fur costumes - and are usually fat and out of shape on top of that? It sounds like a great way to have a heart attack.
 

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Much like the transsexuals, drug use amongst the furries is rampant.

http://www.flayrah.com/7428/drug-addiction-takes-its-toll-furry-fandom

Are most of the trannies just women trapped in men's bodies? Nope, they just smoked enough meth to make the idea of removing your testicles seem like a good idea. Are the furries just oddballs looking to express themselves in a nonconformitive way? Nope. They are opioid addicts with fried brains that don't know what the hell is going on.

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Leonard D Neubache

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Whether Spartan civilization was homo or not is somewhat beside the point I think PPT was trying to make.

The Spartans were an utterly dominant culture that ruled over a slave population between 8 and 12 times their size at various points in history. They held a huge territory and were utterly feared or revered by the other Greeks depending on which direction Spartan spears were pointed at the time. Believing they were rampant homos AND the most orderly, dangerous society on the face of the planet makes for a bit of problem for the "gays = civilisational destruction" crowd.

And while we ourselves may be in decline we are FAR from a lack of prosperity in the broader historical sense. It's difficult to argue that we are supposedly closer to the cusp of death by starvation or exposure or attack than any of our ancestors were. We may be under a cultural and financial malaise but few are dying in the streets.

The Spartan system of course only works if you're ruling over a slave population who do all the grunt work while you send your kids to military school and then task them to militarily rule over slaves. But what PPT was perhaps getting to is that idle hands are the devil's playthings, and he's correct that we are prosperous enough to allow most people to waste their lives pursuing increasingly bizarre garbage lifestyles and fetishes. On the other hand if the Spartans got weak then their immense slave population would revolt and murder them all. They had little choice but to remain at peak martial prowess in order to survive.
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
Whether Spartan civilization was homo or not is somewhat beside the point I think PPT was trying to make.

The Spartans were an utterly dominant culture that ruled over a slave population between 8 and 12 times their size at various points in history. They held a huge territory and were utterly feared or revered by the other Greeks depending on which direction Spartan spears were pointed at the time. Believing they were rampant homos AND the most orderly, dangerous society on the face of the planet makes for a bit of problem for the "gays = civilisational destruction" crowd.

And while we ourselves may be in decline we are FAR from a lack of prosperity in the broader historical sense. It's difficult to argue that we are supposedly closer to the cusp of death by starvation or exposure or attack than any of our ancestors were. We may be under a cultural and financial malaise but few are dying in the streets.

The Spartan system of course only works if you're ruling over a slave population who do all the grunt work while you send your kids to military school and then task them to militarily rule over slaves. But what PPT was perhaps getting to is that idle hands are the devil's playthings, and he's correct that we are prosperous enough to allow most people to waste their lives pursuing increasingly bizarre garbage lifestyles and fetishes. On the other hand if the Spartans got weak then their immense slave population would revolt and murder them all. They had little choice but to remain at peak martial prowess in order to survive.

Only certain Greek tribes had more gay sex - others had close to nothing as they married very young.

One reason that gay sex was even a thing back then was the ever-present giant slave population. Since so many citizens and especially art-holding well-off citizens had slaves, then sex wasn't an issue. Every citizen could fuck a female slave from a young age. When you get such easy sex, then it warps their minds a bit and they go into banging young boys as well being already bored with normal sex itself. Once you ban slavery because it holds back society, then sex becomes more difficult to acquire from females - the stable marriage option becomes the most desirable model and the sex with women is highly valued again. Lots of Ottoman and Arab sultans also followed the same trajectory despite or because being given entire female harems - they banged male slaves as well. One is probably connected to the other.


Furries are more like pedophiles - usually low-value men who later fasten their sxual desires on targets that they can reach - either kids, or other weirdos in fur-suits or animals.
 

questor70

 
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The underlying reason is when you're a kid you usually develop a strong emotional bond with your pets. They love unconditionally and they're loyal. This leads one to idealize animals since they are a less threatening and more reliable source of affection than humans. Sexually, in the same way neotony is attractive in women because it confers youthful innocence, animal features push similar "cute" buttons. In summary, it's mostly an unwillingness to face the slings and arrows of the sexual marketplace head-on, instead carving out a safe-zone of suspended adolescence and role-playing.
 

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911 said:
Donfitz007 said:
I remember being a horny 13 year old watching some movie where the furries were fornicating in the desert. I remember thinking man that’s easy sex I would love to do that!

Now and for a while the idea disgusts me. I think the reason many people turn furry is because many of them hate their humanity. They like the simplicity of animals and the anonymous nature of the suits.

You've hit the spot there, Don. This is an effort to dehumanize people, equating them to animal, cattle or goyim. Animal rights, veganism are part of this picture, as is extreme pet culture. Those divert mothering instincts away from family and child rearing on one hand, and offer a harmless, meaningless outlet for political activism. You get soy boys and misguided girls into animal rights, veganism and climate change, they won't do anything about the real social and economic problems in the world.

The first oligarchs which promoted an actual furry-like culture were the Hungarian bolsheviks 100 years ago under Bela Kohen (Kun), under the tutelage of Culture and Education Minister György Lukács, trotskyite son of a wealthy investmenr banker turned Bolshevik/cultural subversion Kommandant:

Lukacs-antisemite.jpg


Lukács had Hungarian boys and girls into camps and parks where they were shown cartoons and puppet shows with strong sexual themes featuring family-less animals that the kids would embrace and identify with (guess they had Disney beat by a few decades...) Lukacs' Commisariat officially established a "Fable Department" that produced kiddie/animal sex ed material.

A Cultural Revolution

The group actually had its genesis in Moscow before officially being founded in 1923. By the early 1920s, the Bolsheviks—like Antonio Gramsci would later conclude from his Italian prison cell—realized a change in tactics was needed. The much-anticipated violent revolution of the proletariat predicted by Karl Marx to bring about communism, it turned out, would be much more difficult in Western Europe and the United States than previously anticipated. In fact, it would not be possible at all without first breaking down the cultural barriers to collectivism, they reasoned.

As such, the Communist Internationale and mass-murdering Soviet dictator Vladimir Lenin’s minion Karl Radek arranged a meeting at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. Among the participants, according to historical records, were Soviet secret police boss Felix Djerzhinski, Hungarian Bolshevik “cultural commissar” Gyorgy Lukacs, and Communist Internationale (Comintern) bigwig Willi Muenzenberg.

At the Moscow meeting, the conspirators decided that what was needed was a more gradual “cultural revolution,” or what eventually came to be known as “cultural Marxism,” in the West and beyond. To advance that program, the subversives agreed on a sinister but brilliant plan. This would involve the destruction of traditional religion and the Christian culture it produced, the collapse of sexual morality and the deliberate undermining of the family, and a wrecking ball to infiltrate and demolish the existing institutions.

Some of these men had experience. For instance, Lukacs, who served as “minister of education and culture” in the Bolshevik Hungarian regime of Bela Kun, had introduced all manner of perversion and grotesque “sex education” in public schools, starting in elementary school. It was part of a campaign to destroy “bourgeois” Christian morality and sexual ethics among the youth. The objective was to eventually de-Christianize Hungary, thereby facilitating a total communist restructuring of the human mind and all of society.


So there you have it folks, here is the program. They were already up and at it 100 years ago. The irony is that in Hungary, which was communist for half a century, they are on to them, with Orban's government removing statues of Lukacz, while we fall further into engineered cultural disrepair...


Further reading on the subjec, excellent article heret:

György Lukács: Practitioner of Red Vanguardism and Cultural Nihilism

György Lukács (1885-1971) was one of the founders of western Marxism (aka cultural Marxism). He was born in Budapest, the son of wealthy Jewish investment banker Baron József Löwinger.

He was also the philosopher of Leninism. He ideologically developed and organized Lenin’s pragmatic revolutionary practices into the formal philosophy of vanguardism for the Red Terror revolution. Vanguardism is shorthand for trouble-making with the goal of divide and conquer and instilling fear in the population.

A prime example is the thought-commissar activities in the increasingly regressed country of Sweden, which we addressed in our post “In Soviet Sweden, a Social Media Snitch is a National Hero.”

Vanguardism is a strategy whereby the most “class conscious and politically advanced” sections of the proletariat, or working class, form organizations in order to draw larger sections of the working class toward revolutionary politics that develop political power against “class enemies.” The notion was “to educate” the proletariat in Marxism in order to cleanse them of their “false individual consciousness.”

Effectively, Lukács believed that to install communism, there needed to be a cultural revolution before an economic revolution. After all, the latter would involve encroaching on the turf of his beloved bankster kakistractic sponsors, wouldn’t it? Can’t have that.

The centerpiece of culture-critique Marxism and vanguardism are pushing scam concepts like “tolerance.” This is further enhanced by the use of the salami strategy (szalámitaktika) of attack, incorporating the double-bind method.

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A double bind is an emotionally distressing dilemma in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, and one message negates the other. This creates a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), so that the person will automatically be wrong regardless of response. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma and, therefore, can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation. I also like to think of this as a dead end.

Double bind quickly morphs into double think, which is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance — thus, the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

According to George Orwell’s book “1984,” double-think is:

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions, which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it.
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The salami attack is used, for instance, in preaching rigid “tolerance.” Those who object to some depravity or outrage are labelled or portrayed as fascists and Nazis; or, at the very least, fascist sympathizers. In contemporary politics, if somebody ventures into the sticky wicket of criticizing Israel or the lobbying of that foreign state, then the abused term “anti-Semite” can be rolled out. By extension, under the salami attack method, if that label sticks you are the moral equivalent of a camp guard throwing gas canisters into the alleged showers. Some how by osmosis this “slippery slope” all begins with disapproval (aka “intolerance”) of some questionable behavior or practice.

Or for those who notice the glitches in the kakistocracy matrix, there’s the “conspiracy theorist” arrow. Thus, on a number of wash-rinse-repeat fronts, the manipulator is able to get the opposition to in-fight and slice off its right wing, followed by its centrists, and then the more courageous left wingers, until only fellow travelers willing to collaborate remain in power.

During the brief Red Terror reign of the Hungarian Soviet Republic, Lukács in an article in the Népszava dated April 15, 1919, wrote that “the possession of the power of the state is also a moment for the destruction of the oppressing classes. A moment, we have to use.”

Lukács then was able to try his nihilist hand at governing as a Commissar for Education and Culture.

He knew that in order to get people to accept communism, the people would need to be culturally aligned with atheism, the irrelevance of the family, the acceptance of diversity, and the tolerance of multiculturalism. In order to achieve this, he would need to undermine the Christian family structure by promoting teenage promiscuity, teenage rebellion and arrested development.
György Lukács in 1919

Basically, all Lukács was interested in was leveling to the lowest-common Satanic denominator. In practice during 1919, he immediately set plans in motion to de-Christianize Hungary with a program of “non-judgmental tolerance.” He reasoned that if Christian sexual ethics could be undermined among children, then both the hated patriarchal family and the church would be dealt a crippling blow.

To achieve his objective, Lukács launched a radical sex education program in the schools. Sex lectures were organized and literature handed out that graphically instructed youth in free love (promiscuity) and sexual intercourse, while simultaneously encouraging them to deride and reject Christian moral ethics, monogamy and parental and church authority. All of this was accompanied by a reign of cultural terror perpetrated against parents, priests and dissenters.

After the Hungarian Red Terror was crushed, Lukács returned to intellectual eggheadism with the book “History and Class Consciousness: Studies in Marxist Dialectics.” He was one of the founders of the cultural Marxist Frankfurt school.

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Incredibly, after a lifetime of skullduggery, in the end Lukács sort of fessed up to his double-bind creation. The last sentence of this utterance is the only truism he expressed in his entire twisted life. Yes, the next time they just need to try a different version of double-think and tolerance.

“The bureaucracy generated by Stalinism is a tremendous evil. Society is suffocated by it. Everything becomes unreal, nominalistic. People see no design, no strategic aim and do not move,” Lukács wrote, and concluded that we “must learn to connect the great decisions of popular political power with personal needs, those of individuals.”

But György Lukács lives on and in a virulent form. MassResistance.org reports that during a Massachusetts Department of Education conference for 2,000 people, with Kevin Jennings as a keynote speaker, this was said:

“Fisting [forcing one’s entire hand into another person’s rectum or vagina] often gets a bad rap. … [It’s] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with … [and] to put you into an exploratory mode.”


Other things that were taught were homosexual oral sex techniques, sado-masochism techniques, girls using “dildos” and rubbing their sex organs together for pleasure, and much more.

https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/03/gyorgy-lukacs-practitioner-of-vanguardism-and-cultural-nihilism/


And there you have it folks...

Fantastic post, 911. I'd heard Lukac's name before, but didn't know about his part in all this.
 

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Leonard D Neubache said:
Whether Spartan civilization was homo or not is somewhat beside the point I think PPT was trying to make.

The Spartans were an utterly dominant culture that ruled over a slave population between 8 and 12 times their size at various points in history. They held a huge territory and were utterly feared or revered by the other Greeks depending on which direction Spartan spears were pointed at the time. Believing they were rampant homos AND the most orderly, dangerous society on the face of the planet makes for a bit of problem for the "gays = civilisational destruction" crowd.

And while we ourselves may be in decline we are FAR from a lack of prosperity in the broader historical sense. It's difficult to argue that we are supposedly closer to the cusp of death by starvation or exposure or attack than any of our ancestors were. We may be under a cultural and financial malaise but few are dying in the streets.

The Spartan system of course only works if you're ruling over a slave population who do all the grunt work while you send your kids to military school and then task them to militarily rule over slaves. But what PPT was perhaps getting to is that idle hands are the devil's playthings, and he's correct that we are prosperous enough to allow most people to waste their lives pursuing increasingly bizarre garbage lifestyles and fetishes. On the other hand if the Spartans got weak then their immense slave population would revolt and murder them all. They had little choice but to remain at peak martial prowess in order to survive.

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