Why do so many men expect women to be perfect?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Let me tell you what Vladimir is getting at here. I used to have this friend who was a classic definition of an AFC/Incel, a virgin who had never even kissed at 30. Without ever making any attempts at getting out of his predicament, he used to spend his time railing about how women suck, women don't appreciate his "discipline, honor and morals", no woman is good enough for him, why are women this and that, every woman (even a nice and feminine virgin me and my gf tried to set him up with) is a cock-gobbling slut that loves jerks, etc etc etc.

In over a decade, he never made a single cold approach or asked out a single girl from his social circle. Yet according to him, women were the problem!

Eventually we stopped hanging out after he went on a rant accusing me of plotting to "dishonorably steal $30 from him".

That said, it's just a bunch of isolated losers/subcultures. Definitely not "the society" or "we" as whole, and absolutely not heard anywhere in the media.

 

[Pride male]

Which men expect women to be perfect? Most men just want regular sex, good food and a clean house. It is women who expect perfect men.

 

[lonewolf1968]

Man, I just want a thin girl with a cute face to not be crazy, care for me and be somewhat smart. I don't care if she doesn't have much tits or ass. That's all I ask for. Yet women are the ones who ask for a perfect 10.

 

[Vladimir Poontang]

Some of you have misunderstood what I said. I'm not going to explain. It should be obvious what I meant.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

Why do so many Vladamirs expect rvfers to understand them?

 

[Donfitz007]

Some of you have misunderstood what I said. I'm not going to explain. It should be obvious what I meant.

You're one of my favorite posters on here but come o that sounds like a cop out.

Ok here are all the ways I think you meant this

1. Men can't expect women to not be hypergamous, I mean it makes sense if a low level girl gets seduced by a high-level man that she should go to the high level man. Hypergamy is the logical and best evolutionary factor. However, this is when men have problems. You can judge by all female made movies and movies marketed to females that loyalty is a small concern, whereas movies made for men often have loyalty being a trope. Men hate hypergamy because its disloyal. It takes a LONG time to start believing in hypergamy, so many men blame women for it.

2. Women are stupid, but it's not their fault. The way their brains are wired, the way society caters to them, the way men put them on a pedestal it's easy to expect women to thin the way they think. I do notice alot of men getting angry and calling women dumb but usually it's the red pill rage.

3.This forum has been taken over by newbs (I'm one of them) so ofcourse you're going to see hundreds of post and threads from hurt guys about women. You're going to see more blue pilled men rambling about how girls are mean and stuff. Incels join the forum in hopes they find a way to cope with being incels only to use this forum as a soap box to preach hatred towards women.

I apologize for my grammar today.

 

[Huxley Badkin]

I don't expect perfect. Is not fat too much to ask for?

 

[Cr33pin]

I don't expect perfect. Is not fat too much to ask for?

You just a boy thats afraid of a REAL WOMAN with curves

The sad thing is that the meme above is true... I've seen it time and time again on dating apps and sites in Murica. A fat ugly "queen" and dog mom with a snarky list of demands you better have as a man before you swipe right. Before the internet these fatties would have to hide in the corner of the bar and then pop out at last call with cookies and promises of toe curling blowjobs in order to have a chance at even sniffing a real live cock.... now they think they are queens who deserve nothing less than the equivalent of a male 11

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Some of you have misunderstood what I said. I'm not going to explain. It should be obvious what I meant.

It's not obvious to all of us. Here's what I can bring to this discussion. When I was young, my standards were too high -- and misguided. I paid the price in the end.

I've written about this extensively on here. Unfortunately, my posts are now all gone because they were in the "family forum," which has been deleted.

The perfect is the enemy of the good, as the saying goes. If you're young and find a woman who is 70-80 percent what you want, that's probably your best option in the long run.

It's worth keeping in mind that the 30 percent you're not getting might come later. I passed up a whole bunch of small-town "nice girls" because in college they seemed un-sexy and provincial. It didn't occur to me they'd blossom later.

When I saw them on Facebook, they all had become extremely sexy older women. The skinny girl who looks 13 when she's 19 turns into the 40-year-old who looks like she's still in her twenties. Time also makes the "provincial" seem quaint and cute and not a drawback.

The girls who were "hot" and developed at 18-23 are now fat lards and never had good personalities to begin with. They might have seemed physically perfect at 18, but by 28 they were definitely imperfect, and by 40 were the kind of women you run from.

(As an aside, I'll mention all those small-town girls got married and stayed married, while all the "hotties" have had lives of chaos and divorce. But you all probably guessed that.)

I wish my old posts were still here because I wrote this better and in more detail previously.

 

[Geomann180]

Some of you have misunderstood what I said. I'm not going to explain. It should be obvious what I meant.

Expecting people to read your mind will get you nowhere.

You should already know that not everyone thinks the same way you do, if not because of travels, then because of your time on here.

G

 

[Sancho]

Can someone please post that clip from a movie where a young girl is talking with an older woman about what kind of guy she wants?

She goes through a laundry list of requirements:

"Outdoorsy, but has a high paying job.
Works out, but doesn't spend hours a the gym.
Has a one syllable name like Brett, Mark, Chad, etc."

Compared to women, I bet everyone here could narrow down your wants in a woman down to 3-5 qualities.
And even that is too much for them!

 

[MrLemon]

Modern women are simply terrible human beings. Cruel, selfish, hateful, mean to others, contemptuous of society and of morality. Assholes on a massive scale.

Men just want a normal, good woman, and people call that "wanting somebody perfect".

 

[Vladimir Poontang]

Some of you have misunderstood what I said. I'm not going to explain. It should be obvious what I meant.

You're one of my favorite posters on here but come o that sounds like a cop out.

Ok here are all the ways I think you meant this

1. Men can't expect women to not be hypergamous, I mean it makes sense if a low level girl gets seduced by a high-level man that she should go to the high level man. Hypergamy is the logical and best evolutionary factor. However, this is when men have problems. You can judge by all female made movies and movies marketed to females that loyalty is a small concern, whereas movies made for men often have loyalty being a trope. Men hate hypergamy because its disloyal. It takes a LONG time to start believing in hypergamy, so many men blame women for it.

2. Women are stupid, but it's not their fault. The way their brains are wired, the way society caters to them, the way men put them on a pedestal it's easy to expect women to thin the way they think. I do notice alot of men getting angry and calling women dumb but usually it's the red pill rage.

3.This forum has been taken over by newbs (I'm one of them) so ofcourse you're going to see hundreds of post and threads from hurt guys about women. You're going to see more blue pilled men rambling about how girls are mean and stuff. Incels join the forum in hopes they find a way to cope with being incels only to use this forum as a soap box to preach hatred towards women.

I apologize for my grammar today.

I'm flattered that you think I'm a good poster.

Ok, here's what I mean. Men in the west look around and think wow, these females have gone downhill. Then they look at foreign women and at first they think wow, these ones are better. But then they get into the whole AWALT mentality, and they go too far with it. When they spot any little flaw they give up and say that there are no good ones to be found and that they all have some flaw or another. But so what? It's not like men are perfect. It's like pointy elbows 2/10 WNB. A lot of the MGTOWs are like that. Some flaws are big red flags, but not all of them are.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Some of you have misunderstood what I said. I'm not going to explain. It should be obvious what I meant.

You're one of my favorite posters on here but come o that sounds like a cop out.

Ok here are all the ways I think you meant this

1. Men can't expect women to not be hypergamous, I mean it makes sense if a low level girl gets seduced by a high-level man that she should go to the high level man. Hypergamy is the logical and best evolutionary factor. However, this is when men have problems. You can judge by all female made movies and movies marketed to females that loyalty is a small concern, whereas movies made for men often have loyalty being a trope. Men hate hypergamy because its disloyal. It takes a LONG time to start believing in hypergamy, so many men blame women for it.

2. Women are stupid, but it's not their fault. The way their brains are wired, the way society caters to them, the way men put them on a pedestal it's easy to expect women to thin the way they think. I do notice alot of men getting angry and calling women dumb but usually it's the red pill rage.

3.This forum has been taken over by newbs (I'm one of them) so ofcourse you're going to see hundreds of post and threads from hurt guys about women. You're going to see more blue pilled men rambling about how girls are mean and stuff. Incels join the forum in hopes they find a way to cope with being incels only to use this forum as a soap box to preach hatred towards women.

I apologize for my grammar today.

Regarding hypergamy: It's true in the larger, biological sense. But that doesn't mean every woman acts on it.

A went to a semi-rural high school, where most kids came from modest backgrounds but still went to college. I know scads of couples who met in high school and married just after college. Close to 100 percent of them remain married.

A lot of the women aged better than the men. But "hypergamy" didn't kick in and push them to leave their husbands. They stayed and from what I see (and hear), most are happy.

When considering hypergamy, we have to take into account family backgrounds, etc. Most of these people came from stable, two-parent families. They might not have been super-sophisticated, but they were all decent people.

The problem comes when a man wades into a family filled with divorce hell-holes (as I did) and thinks he knows better. Which I clearly didn't.