Why Donald Trump is Not 'Red Pill'

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Sherman said:
The thing I find most impressive about Trump is that he raised 5 children and they all turned out well and love him. That isn't an easy thing, especially when they grow up surrounded by great wealth. Many rich kids turn out to be crap. It shows that Trump's emotional intelligence is off the charts.

http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-donald-trumps-five-children-2015-7

Compared to perhaps the most pathetic ad of the race ( 556lEnWH-4I ) getting reporting from the Guardian:

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Published on Jan 5, 2016
Jeb Bush has referenced his daughter’s struggle with substance abuse before, but on Tuesday the Republican presidential candidate laid bare the challenges of being a parent desperately seeking solutions for his child. According to The Guardian, Bush spoke at a substance abuse forum in New Hampshire--a state that has been ravaged by an epidemic of opiate addiction. The GOP candidate spoke at length for the first time about his family’s personal experience. He said that as a father, he has felt the heartbreak of drug abuse, as his daughter Noelle suffered from addiction. He added that he never expected to see his precious daughter in jail, dwelling on her trouble with the law because of her addiction to prescription anti-anxiety medications and crack cocaine.

Trump = Alpha Prime

Jeb = Cuckold RINO Soros soft as a Grape Open Borders proponent "Illegal immigration is not a crime it is an act of love!"

It is the open borders that are allowing tons of deadly fentanyl cut heroin to flood into the USA from Mexico via murderers like El Chapo's Sinaloa Cartel...
 

poutsara

Woodpecker
ordinaryleastsquared said:
Its about making the world a better place for human beings to exist in, improving problems and creating efficiency and equity in the bureaucracy, and building alliances domestically and abroad to make these goals a reality.

Wrong. The president of the United States should put the interests of his nation and it's citizens above those of the rest of the world. If the US president is more concerned with the welfare of the rest of the world (in reality, more concerned with the welfare of the elite world), more than the welfare of US citizens and their future, then there is a huge problem. In fact, this is our current problem in case you haven't noticed.

I agree that the welfare of US citizens depends in part on building alliances globally, but the primary focus of the US president should always be to promote the interests of his people, not some other people, and certainly not some esoteric ideal.
 

blck

Pelican
Gold Member
poutsara said:
ordinaryleastsquared said:
Its about making the world a better place for human beings to exist in, improving problems and creating efficiency and equity in the bureaucracy, and building alliances domestically and abroad to make these goals a reality.

Wrong. The president of the United States should put the interests of his nation and it's citizens above those of the rest of the world. If the US president is more concerned with the welfare of the rest of the world (in reality, more concerned with the welfare of the elite world), more than the welfare of US citizens and their future, then there is a huge problem. In fact, this is our current problem in case you haven't noticed.

I agree that the welfare of US citizens depends in part on building alliances globally, but the primary focus of the US president should always be to promote the interests of his people, not some other people, and certainly not some esoteric ideal.

If you use the world "SHOULD" that mean that you already that is not the case.
 

Jean Valjean

 
Banned
dads said:
Self-sacrifice is inherently "blue pill". Only men living in a fantasy world think they will (or should) be appreciated for their sacrifices. I don't really have an opinion on US politics either way, but there's so many other places you could have gone to post this sentiment where you might've found people who agreed with you.

What about the soldier (or wingman) who jumps on a grenade? It seems like altruism but they're really just playing the long game. The wingman hopes his buddy will reciprocate the next time they go out; the soldier hopes to further his genetic heritage by keeping alive the republic that defends his family. If he happens to survive, he might get to wear a Medal of Honor.

Making sacrifices for the good of others is very red pill. Did GBFM receive any royalties in return for the labor he invested in creating and making available to us the "ONE COC- RULE" video? I think not. Trump donated millions of dollars to his own campaign, and now is refusing all but $1 of his Presidential salary. His sacrifices are appreciated by his fans. There is no contradiction between being "red pill" and offering (seemingly) selfless acts of devotion to one's family, community, and nation.

In the end, people have to take care of themselves in order to help others anyway, so the line between selfishness and altruism can get pretty blurry. Trump had to look out for his own interests first in order to build the fortune and brand that allowed him to run a campaign that wouldn't be dependent upon special interest donations. Also, even if he's criticized for being divisive now (rather than "building alliances"), he had to cooperate with (or at least buy off) mainstream politicians like Hillary Clinton until he became powerful enough to not need her help anymore. You can't build alliances with everyone; sometimes you have to say "no" (or "you're fired") to people who would otherwise get in the way.

By the way, in contrast to the OP's statement, "Because being a 'red pill' president isn't about banging hot girls, being arrogant, and expecting the whole world to sniff your piss stains," being red pill is very much about harnessing the power of narcissism to become the man whom other men want to be, and women want to fuck. Overconfidence leads to boldness, which leads to success.

As for "creating efficiency and equity in the bureaucracy," that's an impossible task, since bureaucracies are inefficient and hierarchical by their very nature. With regard to "solving complex issues that involve multiple stakeholders and interests and realizing the world and policy is not black and white," when the Code of Federal Regulations fills more than 200 volumes, I think it's fair to say that our leaders have overcomplicated things. The principles of nature, economics, and mathematics are simple and elegant, so why not morality, politics, and legislation too.
 

Built to Fade

Woodpecker
As someone who has read every page of 'The Donald Trump' thread (3265 pages at the time of writing),
I have made the conclusion that Trump is red pill.

Remember what Trump already knew before becoming President.
Imagine what Trump knows now after 18 months as President.
Imagine what he could know over the next 78 months.

I have a feeling that something big is brewing and will unveil rapidly in the next decade or two.

I stand by my (overly thorough?) analysis. Over-thinking can hurt your brain. :blank:


For those talking about sacrifice, righteous altrustic sacrifice with true convictions trumps clueless selfish sacrifice under someone else's convictions.
 
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