Why Don't Feminists and the MSM Go After Porn?

Easy_C

Crow
Damn PJW is still obnoxious AF. I feel dumber after even trying to watch his videos.

Just show the damn content and stop interrupting it with random copypasta content like we've got the ADHD of a goldfish on crack.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
How on earth did we get to the point that people deciding to not masturbate has become a partisan political issue? Totally and utterly bizarre. Can anyone explain this phenomena conclusively?
 

Buck Wild

Kingfisher
Abstaining from porn makes you alt-right: Rolling Stone

"Yet it would be naive to ignore that there’s significant overlap between the general ideology behind NoFap — and, to a degree, No Nut November — and that of the far right, which has increasingly coopted the principles of masturbation abstinence."

The whole article is really quite amazing. The fairly baldfaced upshot is that men wanting to assert self-control is a threat to feminism and the institutional power it wields.

They're right.
 

Matsufubu

Pelican
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Both feminism and porn exist to subvert and destroy traditional, Christian patriarchy. So by and large they leave it alone.
 
Buck Wild said:
"Yet it would be naive to ignore that there’s significant overlap between the general ideology behind NoFap — and, to a degree, No Nut November — and that of the far right, which has increasingly coopted the principles of masturbation abstinence."

"Correlation doesn't equal causation, except when it suits my interests".
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
Sword and Board said:
The last few years I hear women that support feminism say porn, Instagram thots and sex work is empowering for women. Wasn't the case over a decade ago.

Easy_C said:
The first place I heard that was when Belle Knox was claiming it on a news interview.

Women have extremely poor capacity for knowing Logos, combined with huge vulnerability to easy deception.
The serpent first took hold of women and he has not lost his grip.

Our problem is allowing it by inaction, if not supporting it by participation.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
@Buck Wild

Jesus. Douglas Murray's new book - The Madness of Crowds - is very prescient. It posits that we're living in a new age of secular puritanical hysteria. One that will be looked at in decades ahead with some bemusement.

One hypothesis is that the internet, and in particular social media, is still relatively new in human history and some unintended consequences have occurred due to it.

That Rolling Stone article is quite literally insane. Or clever clickbait. The comments will probably get closed by the looks of it.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
Teedub said:
One hypothesis is that the internet, and in particular social media, is still relatively new in human history and some unintended consequences have occurred due to it.

The world runs on unintended consequences. It's not a technology problem. It's a human problem. The technology just allows the human problem to prosper.

But the human problem is well know by the invisible audience that has dominion over this world.

When Zucc started Facebook he just wanted two things:

  1. Satisfy the restlessness that males have to create something new.
  2. Scope cuties in his proximity so he could bang.

Then it turned into what it is now.
 
Dr. Howard said:
If a person said "I think I'm going to quit drinking" no would come out publicly and say "Look at all of these losers not drinking! Get down to the liquor store now incels! "

I dissent from that opinion. I've had many people taunt and mock me when I refused to drink alcohol - refusing to understand that I didn't refuse to drink "with them", only abstain based on my principles. People don't know or don't care what principles mean anymore.
 

Hermetic Seal

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I've always thought it was weird that feminists (and women in general) aren't more opposed to porn.

For one thing, it would seem to lower their SMV. It's hard for me to understand, at least from a secular point of view, why men would make the effort to bed a mediocre or ugly woman when they can jerk off to a limitless supply of hot chicks on the internet, no strings attached, for zero effort. Porn would seem to put the average chick at a huge disadvantage.

It's less of an issue in Christian communities where the men are trying to abstain from porn and marry/have a family, but in the secular world, how is this not the biggest threat to female control of the sexual marketplace?

On the other hand it's easy to see why the media hegemony loves porn, and why Rolling Stone feels threatened enough to write idiotic, deluded articles on the subject: they use it to drug men. This all has been well documented.

It's easy to see why the media and Globohomo benefit from porn, but it seems of little benefit to women. Are so many western women so dumb that they haven't figured it out yet?

PS: You have to love how every MSM article talking about "Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories" exclaims how ridiculous the idea of, say, outrageously disproportionate Jewish control and influence in the porn industry is, as if it's self-evidently absurd and doesn't require any sort of hard data to refute (citing a funny-named CEO of the parent company of *one* website is a hilariously flimsy excuse at a rebuttal.)
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
d said:
I've had many people taunt and mock me when I refused to drink alcohol - refusing to understand that I didn't refuse to drink "with them", only abstain based on my principles. People don't know or don't care what principles mean anymore.

I have also experienced a bit of this. And they like to try and lure you back in. But on the other hand it can have an effect if you can snowball the trend in your social circle. People rapidly start reacting to what people are doing in their social circle. It's likely most people have had thoughts about stopping drinking, but heard little about it. I never drank regularly or much, but I had those thought for years. And a big part of what prompted me to give up was from exposure to ideas from online. It isn't something I would have been likely to do in a vacuum.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
d said:
Dr. Howard said:
If a person said "I think I'm going to quit drinking" no would come out publicly and say "Look at all of these losers not drinking! Get down to the liquor store now incels! "

I dissent from that opinion. I've had many people taunt and mock me when I refused to drink alcohol - refusing to understand that I didn't refuse to drink "with them", only abstain based on my principles. People don't know or don't care what principles mean anymore.

I understand what you are saying, and agree that peer or local social pressure exists when you try to quit drinking (I've done it myself). What I'm saying is that your friends didn't write the local news paper, rolling stone, go on twitter and the news and say things like "D'aversa reveals Nazi allegiance in bid to quit drinking"
 
Dr. Howard said:
I understand what you are saying, and agree that peer or local social pressure exists when you try to quit drinking (I've done it myself). What I'm saying is that your friends didn't write the local news paper, rolling stone, go on twitter and the news and say things like "D'aversa reveals Nazi allegiance in bid to quit drinking"

Sure, that's why we have to differentiate our peer groups and political activists in the internet. Do you think that your associates would brand you with one of the usual "lefty" buzzwords if you mentioned abstinence from masturbation, fornication or alcohol? Not likely - they might bust your balls that you don't like them anymore or laugh that you're not into women anymore, but it'd be extreme for someone to call you a "nazi" in person. Unless you're unlucky to be in contact with mentally retarded people. But, that's not all there is.

Internet political activists, connected to mass media outlets or other popular influence groups, though, are going to use EVERYTHING they can against their opponents as a fodder for their propaganda, even something that's a virtue for any sane mind. Having normal sexual life (without fetishism, infidelity, various "experiments" they want you to try to "spice things up") is bad, because you're an INCEL and your girlfriend will ditch your boring ass because you're probably not satisfying her. Working out is bad, because by lifting weights you become right-wing (actual headline I've posted on the forum), and you'll ruin your social life doing this. Playing video games is bad, because you're probably some VIRGIN EXTREMIST THAT WANTS TO KILL PEOPLE (unless you play games like Depression Quest made by some brave, beautiful and brilliant people like Zoe Quinn, then you're all right). Hell, I've seen these idiots write that "staying hydrated is alt-right".

This is exactly why I believe that "Cultural Marxism" exists and the pollution of mind is very real; although some of the more religious men attribute it to demonic possession as a result of veering away from Christian values - and I dissent from that opinion too. Ancient, pre-Christian civilizations maybe didn't have free wifi cafes, pumpkin-spiced latte and microwave ovens, but they had principles, followed them, sometimes risking their lives. How many of us risk lives today, how many of us want to? Remember what Antonio Gramsci wrote when he was in prison? Communism will win not by military or economic power, but by minds, by propaganda.

The problem begins when propaganda of political activists seeps into your social peer group. Then by not drinking you're not only a boring ass guy (because of lack of principles inherent within our upbringing and general life), you're also evil (because the void has been filled with ideology standing on its head).
 

Basil II

Sparrow
Gold Member
HermeticAlly said:
I've always thought it was weird that feminists (and women in general) aren't more opposed to porn.

For one thing, it would seem to lower their SMV. It's hard for me to understand, at least from a secular point of view, why men would make the effort to bed a mediocre or ugly woman when they can jerk off to a limitless supply of hot chicks on the internet, no strings attached, for zero effort. Porn would seem to put the average chick at a huge disadvantage.

It's less of an issue in Christian communities where the men are trying to abstain from porn and marry/have a family, but in the secular world, how is this not the biggest threat to female control of the sexual marketplace?

On the other hand it's easy to see why the media hegemony loves porn, and why Rolling Stone feels threatened enough to write idiotic, deluded articles on the subject: they use it to drug men. This all has been well documented.

It's easy to see why the media and Globohomo benefit from porn, but it seems of little benefit to women. Are so many western women so dumb that they haven't figured it out yet?

PS: You have to love how every MSM article talking about "Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories" exclaims how ridiculous the idea of, say, outrageously disproportionate Jewish control and influence in the porn industry is, as if it's self-evidently absurd and doesn't require any sort of hard data to refute (citing a funny-named CEO of the parent company of *one* website is a hilariously flimsy excuse at a rebuttal.)

I would say it benefits women by keeping those who they perceive to be low value men inside their basements and not on the streets trying to date them. Natural Alphas can use porn and still date without issue whereas male sub 7's may just check out as you describe and women are okay with that.
 
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