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Why the movie Fight Club is so popular within the Self help / PUAs / Red pill crowd ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Enigma" data-source="post: 1099421" data-attributes="member: 3766"><p><strong>RE:</strong></p><p></p><p>^ Yes, you're not supposed to identify specifically with characters like Lester, just like you're not supposed to identify with characters who live in abandoned buildings and make explosives out of human body fat. </p><p></p><p>Going back to what I said earlier, Nietzsche believed that modern man was too Apollonian and must become more Dionysian, balancing the two. </p><p></p><p>Dionysus was associated with sex, music, drunkenness, and, wait for it... roses. </p><p></p><p>What are the things that people remember about Lester's story arc (based on the last few posts in this thread)? Him listening to music, lifting weights, smoking weed, losing his temper, and imagining sex on top of roses. </p><p></p><p>There's a reason that Nietzche considered the tension between the Apollonian and Dionysian the source of all tragedy and that these archetypal stories go back thousands of years. </p><p></p><p>Does this sound familiar?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian</a></p><p></p><p>To be clear, I'm not saying American Beauty is my favorite movie -- or even a particularly good movie -- I'm just offering an alternative to the "roses are gay, bro, I want to see sweaty assholes" or "if you enjoy watching millennia-old stories you're a narcissist" interpretations of the film.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enigma, post: 1099421, member: 3766"] [b]RE:[/b] ^ Yes, you're not supposed to identify specifically with characters like Lester, just like you're not supposed to identify with characters who live in abandoned buildings and make explosives out of human body fat. Going back to what I said earlier, Nietzsche believed that modern man was too Apollonian and must become more Dionysian, balancing the two. Dionysus was associated with sex, music, drunkenness, and, wait for it... roses. What are the things that people remember about Lester's story arc (based on the last few posts in this thread)? Him listening to music, lifting weights, smoking weed, losing his temper, and imagining sex on top of roses. There's a reason that Nietzche considered the tension between the Apollonian and Dionysian the source of all tragedy and that these archetypal stories go back thousands of years. Does this sound familiar? [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_and_Dionysian[/URL] To be clear, I'm not saying American Beauty is my favorite movie -- or even a particularly good movie -- I'm just offering an alternative to the "roses are gay, bro, I want to see sweaty assholes" or "if you enjoy watching millennia-old stories you're a narcissist" interpretations of the film. [/QUOTE]
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