speakeasy said:Just gargle a little baking soda and you'll be fine.
Ziltoid said:work on your fear of death and/or don't have unprotected sex of any kind with slag.
scorpion said:The actual alpha way to approach sex is to simply maximize your personal pleasure and not even care about hers at all. Of course, this requires actually maintaining an alpha frame 24/7 and not just jackhammering a girl in bed and assuming that gives you "alpha" status. So it's the difference of living as an alpha versus trying to be alpha in the bedroom with porn star behavior.
velkrum said:A man who does not care about pleasing a woman...
is a man having sex with a woman he is not attracted to.
Kieran said:velkrum said:A man who does not care about pleasing a woman...
is a man having sex with a woman he is not attracted to.
Or maybe he just knows that she gets more pleasure from feeling that she has pleased him, than from him trying to please her.
Going down, using toys, tying her up, etc., all seem like supplicant behaviour to me.
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scorpion said:If you're remotely defensive because of what I said you're just proving my point. It's because you're fundamentally insecure about sex (scarcity mentality, pedestalization), which is why you're placing so much effort onto your performance. Either that or you're just sex-crazed. Neither really meets the definition of alpha, which was the point I was disputing in my post.
If you're really fucking girls that way because that's what you like, then why do you care what I think? Doing what you want only because YOU want to - that is alpha behavior. I was simply pointing out that most guys who obsess about their sexual performance are doing so for the wrong reasons, and using the male hamster to justify it as being something they like.
This idea that giving chicks amazing orgasms and porn star sex is 1) alpha and/or 2) the best way to make them stick around is just completely erroneous. Way too many guys today, even supposedly red pill guys like to spout this myth, and it's very harmful. I think it is one source of performance anxiety and ED (along with porn), and generally makes guys not really understand the dynamics of sex and attraction. Sex is not a mechanical process by which you seek to achieve an ideal amount of friction between penis and vagina. It's much more of a psychological thing. The emphasis on porn star sex gives guys the idea that they just have to master a few moves in bed and they can become alpha and have women wrapped around their fingers. It's bogus.
The amount satisfaction a woman receives from having sex with you has much more to do with how you behave outside of bed than how you behave in it. If any man rejects this fact or doesn't understand it, he still has much to learn about women. A fixation on porn star sex is a strong indicator that this idea hasn't been internalized and isn't being acted on. For a man who understand this fact, engaging in regular porn star sex makes about as much sense as driving across town and taking your girl to a fancy restaurant every week. It's needless overkill and a hassle. The male hamster will tell you that you're only doing it because you can afford it or because you enjoy fine dining. For a small percentage of guys, maybe that would be true. But most would be deluding themselves. It's the same way with porn star sex - it's something guys do because they think it makes them more desirable to women. But porn star sex is subject to the exact same paradox that underlies all interaction with women - the more you do for them, the less they appreciate you. In this manner your self-perceived alpha porn star sex can actually end up working against you as the woman begins to feel entitled to an orgasm every time she's with you, and begins to regard you as a sexual plaything rather than as her man. You become a performer trying to live up to her expectations rather than a man simply taking from your woman what you're entitled to.
scorpion said:If you're remotely defensive because of what I said you're just proving my point. It's because you're fundamentally insecure about sex (scarcity mentality, pedestalization), which is why you're placing so much effort onto your performance. Either that or you're just sex-crazed. Neither really meets the definition of alpha, which was the point I was disputing in my post.
If you're really fucking girls that way because that's what you like, then why do you care what I think? Doing what you want only because YOU want to - that is alpha behavior. I was simply pointing out that most guys who obsess about their sexual performance are doing so for the wrong reasons, and using the male hamster to justify it as being something they like.
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