Why Thousands Of Men Like JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Are Getting Throat Cancer

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AntiTrace

Ostrich
I've gone raw too many times, with too many girls who didn't object to me going raw, to worry about less than a 1% chance of something that might be scientifically true (or more than likely, the newest media scare fad).

Id rather be smoking blunts and stretching cunts than looking at every pussy like it might one day, 30 years from now, kill me. Don't let fear run your life.

http://markmanson.net/std-guide <--- peep that shit and get the low down on STD's. I had an STD once, not really sure what it was, but two pills a day for 72 hours and Anti was a fucking stallion again. The common cold puts me out of the game for longer than that.
 

Ziltoid

Pelican
This is kind of alarmist and silly.

Apparently your odds of getting HPV-induced oral cancer as a man are about 50% lower than your odds of getting HPV-induced penis cancer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus#Cancer

If there is something to take away from all this, it's that A: any way you slice it your risk of getting HPV related cancer as a man is a minute fraction of the risk associated with say smoking cigarettes or eating a lot of charred meats, and B: if that risk really bothers you so much, work on your fear of death and/or don't have unprotected sex of any kind with slag.
 

velkrum

Kingfisher
A man who does not care about pleasing a woman...

is a man having sex with a woman he is not attracted to.
 

Nonpareil

Pelican
Agnostic
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scorpion said:
The actual alpha way to approach sex is to simply maximize your personal pleasure and not even care about hers at all. Of course, this requires actually maintaining an alpha frame 24/7 and not just jackhammering a girl in bed and assuming that gives you "alpha" status. So it's the difference of living as an alpha versus trying to be alpha in the bedroom with porn star behavior.

I eat pussy because it's what I want to do...I don't do it to every girl, but when I want to do it, I do it. Of course I want her to have a good time, but mine comes first.

Let throat cancer come at me (my pack a day habit for the last 10 years + drinking like a fish means I'm going to get it anyways), I could get hit by a bus tomorrow and end up not dying of throat cancer; I've done too much grimy, dangerous shit to worry about something now, at age 30, that might, if at all, not hit me until I'm 65.
 

Kieran

Pelican
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velkrum said:
A man who does not care about pleasing a woman...

is a man having sex with a woman he is not attracted to.

Or maybe he just knows that she gets more pleasure from feeling that she has pleased him, than from him trying to please her.

Going down, using toys, tying her up, etc., all seem like supplicant behaviour to me.
 

jariel

Hummingbird
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Wait a minute, so being good in bed is now beta...

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SheriffBart

 
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I have another theory why not pleasing or not caring about pleasing women might be a preference or 'alpha' . It's a way to avoid the onset of oneitis. It is widely known that investing effort into something makes you develop feelings stronger than being on the receiving end.

If you agree, it's a bit paradoxical to the concept of alpha because you're putting care into not caring.
 

weambulance

Hummingbird
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Kieran said:
velkrum said:
A man who does not care about pleasing a woman...

is a man having sex with a woman he is not attracted to.

Or maybe he just knows that she gets more pleasure from feeling that she has pleased him, than from him trying to please her.

Going down, using toys, tying her up, etc., all seem like supplicant behaviour to me.

So, to recap, not only is being good in bed a beta trait, but being dominant and leading a woman into total submission is supplication.

Who are you people, and what you have done with RVF?

This is very simple. If you're doing what you want to do for your pleasure, it's not supplication. If you're doing something you wouldn't otherwise do solely for her pleasure so she'll feel good about you and fuck you (or keep fucking you), whether what you're doing is in bed or out, it is supplication.

Frame is key, and never let a chick who isn't the faithful mother of your children feel entitled to your money/time/etc. There's a big difference between giving magnanimously at your discretion and being her bitch.

I like cooking, so I cook for girls sometimes. I like the feeling of a girl clinging to me on the back of my motorcycle while carving through twisties, so sometimes I bring girls on rides. I like eating a nice pussy, so sometimes I eat pussy. I like gagging a girl, tying her to my bed, and hearing her muffled squeaks and moans when I'm fucking her, so sometimes I break out my light bondage gear and go to it. Notice the common thread: those are sensations/feelings I enjoy, and I can't get them alone.

How "alpha" would it be for me to deprive myself of pleasure because I'm worried about "supplicating" or "being beta"?

Yes, part of game is calculated asshole behavior, which is learned and becomes largely automatic. But any kind of long term arrangement requires a mix of alpha and beta traits; you can't just go full bore alpha all the time. Some of you obviously think any and all beta behaviors are bad, that they should be avoided. I say: so fucking what if it's "beta" for me to cook for a girl or eat her pussy? I enjoy it, and it's not like I'm a white knight trying to con my way into her panties with nice-guyisms.
 

Glaucon

Ostrich
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I do not like to eat out either.

When I first did it, the girl enjoyed it for a few minutes, but she wanted the dick better, she made it clear.

Soon after I stopped eating out, never missed it.
 

Stun

Kingfisher
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scorpion said:
If you're remotely defensive because of what I said you're just proving my point. It's because you're fundamentally insecure about sex (scarcity mentality, pedestalization), which is why you're placing so much effort onto your performance. Either that or you're just sex-crazed. Neither really meets the definition of alpha, which was the point I was disputing in my post.

If you're really fucking girls that way because that's what you like, then why do you care what I think? Doing what you want only because YOU want to - that is alpha behavior. I was simply pointing out that most guys who obsess about their sexual performance are doing so for the wrong reasons, and using the male hamster to justify it as being something they like.

This idea that giving chicks amazing orgasms and porn star sex is 1) alpha and/or 2) the best way to make them stick around is just completely erroneous. Way too many guys today, even supposedly red pill guys like to spout this myth, and it's very harmful. I think it is one source of performance anxiety and ED (along with porn), and generally makes guys not really understand the dynamics of sex and attraction. Sex is not a mechanical process by which you seek to achieve an ideal amount of friction between penis and vagina. It's much more of a psychological thing. The emphasis on porn star sex gives guys the idea that they just have to master a few moves in bed and they can become alpha and have women wrapped around their fingers. It's bogus.

The amount satisfaction a woman receives from having sex with you has much more to do with how you behave outside of bed than how you behave in it. If any man rejects this fact or doesn't understand it, he still has much to learn about women. A fixation on porn star sex is a strong indicator that this idea hasn't been internalized and isn't being acted on. For a man who understand this fact, engaging in regular porn star sex makes about as much sense as driving across town and taking your girl to a fancy restaurant every week. It's needless overkill and a hassle. The male hamster will tell you that you're only doing it because you can afford it or because you enjoy fine dining. For a small percentage of guys, maybe that would be true. But most would be deluding themselves. It's the same way with porn star sex - it's something guys do because they think it makes them more desirable to women. But porn star sex is subject to the exact same paradox that underlies all interaction with women - the more you do for them, the less they appreciate you. In this manner your self-perceived alpha porn star sex can actually end up working against you as the woman begins to feel entitled to an orgasm every time she's with you, and begins to regard you as a sexual plaything rather than as her man. You become a performer trying to live up to her expectations rather than a man simply taking from your woman what you're entitled to.

No matter how confident you are, it's very hard not to get caught in that mindset once in a while. Being good-looking, or being awesome in bed, or getting chicks to notice your huge cock, or having swole pecs are all things that are constantly positively-reinforced by women. Your brain can't help but to make the connection: these things = women want to fuck me more.

How do you avoid getting trapped in that mindset, or quickly flip the script back to being the one doing the qualifying?
 
scorpion said:
If you're remotely defensive because of what I said you're just proving my point. It's because you're fundamentally insecure about sex (scarcity mentality, pedestalization), which is why you're placing so much effort onto your performance. Either that or you're just sex-crazed. Neither really meets the definition of alpha, which was the point I was disputing in my post.

If you're really fucking girls that way because that's what you like, then why do you care what I think? Doing what you want only because YOU want to - that is alpha behavior. I was simply pointing out that most guys who obsess about their sexual performance are doing so for the wrong reasons, and using the male hamster to justify it as being something they like.
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I sometimes ask girls what their best sex was with guys - with whom, what did they do etc.

Usually it is the following -

1. A very hot Alpha who was so exciting to her that even when he entered her it gave her enormous pleasure. He did not do anything special. Sometimes he did not even last long, but she cam anyway. The experience was memorable because of her extreme attraction of him.

2. An Alpha who really made her come again and again also using sometimes methods like Tantra and the like. He was exciting and he made her come many times.

3. In some cases she told me that it was terribly exciting, but she did not come at all. It was the most exciting situation of being taken by this brute of an Alpha, who was at total disregard for her.


Either way - you get the picture. I also asked them about other boyfriends and athletic "calm" guys (Betas). Usually she says that sometimes the sex was good and she came, she had plenty of fun and it was good with shome, but it was not that memorable. I really do believe that for women sex is a more mental/emotional experience. That is why their porn is in the form of books.
 
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