mensch said:
Suits said:
mensch said:
Mercenary said:
mensch said:
I'd not refer to a specific instance. In my reckoning women have very specific capabilities, and can indeed thrive in certain industries and environments.
Unless you start backing up your statements with examples, you won't last long here with these sort of claims.
Eh? I'm sorry to state the plainly obvious, but I'd never wish for men for carry the running of my children's kindergarten. Some jobs require the softness and shrewdness of women.
You'd be surprised. Here in China, due to a shortage of women willing to live and work in a sexual desert with a minimum of alpha males willing to let them date up, the majority of the foreign kindergarten staff members are male and many are absolutely excellent with children and great at their jobs.
I'm sure it's possible. But women are hardwired to care about children.
I've literally seen no evidence of this.
While it may have appeared to be the case in previous generations with more defined gender roles that both encouraged women to develop skills related to nurturing children and discouraged men from doing the same, at the present time, particularly in more liberalized western countries where gender roles are no longer strictly defined and men are encouraged to take a great share in parenting activities, I see far more evidence that men are superior to women in this regard.
From what I've observed, women are hardwired to stand around holding infant children (preferably children who lack the desire to explore their surroundings and are satisfied serving the role of a prop for a woman) and talking in great detail about their past pregnancy experiences.
Trips to the park for women and children usually involve the women standing in a semi-circle, trying to impress each other with their child-labour* stories and knowledge of pregnancy. They keep an eye on their kids, but there is very little nurturing going on.
When modern dads, who in part a product of a feminist upbringing take their kids to the park, they take a much more active role. You'll see them pushing their kids on the swings, encouraging them to engage in activities within a safe range of risk (such as sliding down the slide or for older youngsters, climbing trees) and will often physically partake in said activities where appropriate and where their asses fit into said slides.
When I was a kid, my dad did more of the breadwinning, but when he was home, he taught me to play baseball and took all his kids on long Sunday afternoon walks or swimming Saturday afternoon. He clearly enjoyed doing these activities.
What was my mom doing when all this was going on? Isolating herself with a book and a cup of tea.
Not that my mom didn't share the burden of parenting. As a homeschooling family, she did plenty. But she clearly wasn't hardwired to try to teach skills or engage in activities with her children. She preferred to be present as necessary and supervise activities, but rarely participated or taught skills. For example, my mom is an excellent cook and baker, but never made any efforts to pass those skills on. My father, on the other hand, couldn't have been more happier to teach carpentry to his sons and French to his daughter when she was struggling to pass ninth grade. After that experience, he started taking one day off a week to teach French to his younger children so that they would face the same struggles when they finished homeschooling and re-entered the regular school system in the ninth grade. My mom, by comparison, had been satisfied to have us learn French by simply listening to language tapes and not much more.
The definition of nurturing isn't clear, but regardless, I'd absolutely argue that men are better nurturers when they choose to be. Of course, if your definition of nurturing means standing around uselessly with a child in your arms, then I guess you're right. Women are more nurturing.
*Note that child-labour in this case refers to that act of pushing infant children out of the female vagina and not to unethical activities involving the use of children as labour.
