Will you take the vaccine?

Before I go on I’ll state my belief that we will be coerced into it. Doctors, grocery stores, airlines, etc., will have a no-vaccine no-entry policy. Sure, it won’t be mandated, but if you want to eat and get treated for a broken leg you’ll have to have it.

I‘m very resistant. I admit I have a lot of anxiety about it. I know someone who developed Guillain-Barre from (possibly) a flu shot. It was horrible to see a strong man go from upright to paralyzed and on disability in the space of an afternoon. It’s been years, and he will never be the same. But I’m resistant anyway because I don’t trust any of this to be what they say it is. Even if masses of people die from the vaccine Big Media will cover it up. I so look forward to judgment day.

After struggling with this pretty much all year it finally occurred to me to talk with my hubby about it and leave the decision up to him. I’m a slow learner. He’s wise and will do the right thing for us.



I am not willing to receive the vaccine under any circumstances and I am willing to accept being unable to renew a professional license and winding up supporting myself and any family via investment income, subsistence agriculture, and other labor, if it comes to that. I have done menial physical labor before, I didn't like it, but I did an adequate job, got things done, and I am willing to do such work again for the support and maintenance of my household if need be.

If a store won't let me in to buy tomatoes, well I'm just going to go grow my own tomatoes which I have often done anyway.
 

PUA_Rachacha

Woodpecker
Got the J&J vaccine last week. Wife got the same one at the same time.

I felt achy for a day or two, then fine. Wife had full on fever, bed sweats, and was on her butt for a day-and-a-half.

Booked travel to see family again that we haven't seen since the advent of the WuFlu. Looking forward to having some normalcy return to our lives.
 

Vigilant

Woodpecker
Woman
This is cool, I’m actually in the process of reading through Romans this week.
Regarding Romans, just like our current heresy, which was to usher in the noahide domination:
"The problem however with the Judaizers was that they felt that converts should become Jews first, and then received into the church; that there could be no direct conversion from paganism to Christianity, they had to go through the process first of becoming Jews. Then there was a party that called itself ‘The Strong’ and Paul deals with this in the latter part of the book or the epistle to the Romans.

The slogan of, The Strong which we find in 1 Corinthians 6:12 was: “All things are lawful for me.” These were antinomians.
Now, we should note by the way, that in writing to the Corinthians, Paul sarcastically tells them they are strong, but he says: “I am weak.” Because Paul was not an antinomian, and to believe in the law was regarded as a weakness."
 

Kitty Tantrum

Woodpecker
Woman
If I had to hazard a guess as to what these jabs actually ARE at this point, I suspect it's a mixed bag of:

- saline
- existing-variant flu shots
- experimental gene therapy
- straight-up injections of live coronavirus intended to cause illness
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
If I had to hazard a guess as to what these jabs actually ARE at this point, I suspect it's a mixed bag of:

- saline
- existing-variant flu shots
- experimental gene therapy
- straight-up injections of live coronavirus intended to cause illness

Sounds plausible. I wonder if the deaths are intentional or a shot in the dark, like "hey let's see who lives and who dies."

I just finished a book about the Tuskegee study ("Bad Blood") and the doctors never felt bad about what they did. What they did feel bad about was that the racial climate changed, and they feared the potential fallout.

They also felt that since they were just observing, and the data would "help", that the study was a good thing.

I could see some unethical doctors saying things like, these poor uneducated normies will help future cancer sufferers, etc
 

Mrs.DanielH

Robin
Woman
Got the J&J vaccine last week. Wife got the same one at the same time.

I felt achy for a day or two, then fine. Wife had full on fever, bed sweats, and was on her butt for a day-and-a-half.

Booked travel to see family again that we haven't seen since the advent of the WuFlu. Looking forward to having some normalcy return to our lives.
That's the one that was made using aborted fetal cells.
 

messaggera

Woodpecker
Woman
Abortion is a sacrament in the religion of the New World Order. If they can get people to participate in using fetal cells, especially in this manner, they can get people on board with abortion and ultimately infanticide and euthanasia.

deleted comment: too harsh of a moral judgement made on women who support abortion.
 
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Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
Abortion is a sacrament in the religion of the New World Order. If they can get people to participate in using fetal cells, especially in this manner, they can get people on board with abortion and ultimately infanticide and euthanasia.

I think Owen Benjamin compared it to somebody handing you a glass of water and saying "I peed in it but it's only a little"
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
I talked to my brother last night who said his friend who works in the biotech sector (I've met him, he was his best man and I drove him to the airport, he is a real person) is just appalled at the bad science of the whole thing and refuses to take it. He also brought up a good point: no pandemic in history has ever been ended with mass vaccinations, cases dwindle and the vaccinations are used to control new outbreaks or slow old ones. But the ending is a slow process, and life goes on in the meantime.

I think this is where boomer American exceptionalism comes in, this weird WE DID IT, WE WON THE WAR CAUSE WE'RE CREATIVE AND WE *ROCK* sort of thinking, as if natural laws don't apply to us. We put our minds to it and we did it, we made a new technology!

I read a comment: "everyone is worried about the hospital system being overwhelmed with a flu, but what happens when everyone needs specialized care at the same time?" and the response was, you're an idiot, this could have been 20x worse if we didn't do anything.

Well, 20 x 0 is still zero. I agree that the "big one" is probably everyone developing issues from the shot, where they'll really kick euthanasia (either active or passive) into high gear, and it will be blamed on a variant or even genes. So the weird scenerio the media to paint will actually happen, only people won't freak out because they'll feel like they've been through it before.
 

messaggera

Woodpecker
Woman

EXCLUSIVE - Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’ [Lifesite news article]

‘Look out the window, and think, “why is my government lying to me about something so fundamental?” Because, I think the answer is, they are going to kill you using this method. They’re going to kill you and your family.’

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April 7, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews.

He addressed the “demonstrably false” propaganda from governments in response to COVID-19, including the “lie” of dangerous variants, the totalitarian potential for “vaccine passports,” and the strong possibility we are dealing with a “conspiracy” which could lead to something far beyond the carnage experienced in the wars and massacres of the 20th century.

His main points included:

  1. There is “no possibility” current variants of COVID-19 will escape immunity. It is “just a lie.”
  2. Yet, governments around the world are repeating this lie, indicating that we are witnessing not just “convergent opportunism,” but a “conspiracy.” Meanwhile media outlets and Big Tech platforms are committed to the same propaganda and the censorship of the truth.
  3. Pharmaceutical companies have already begun to develop unneeded “top-up” (“booster”) vaccines for the “variants.” The companies are planning to manufacture billions of vials, in addition to the current experimental COVID-19 “vaccine” campaign.
  4. Regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the European Medicines Agency, have announced that since these “top-up” vaccines will be so similar to the prior injections which were approved for emergency use authorization, drug companies will not be required to “perform any clinical safety studies.”
  5. Thus, this virtually means that design and implementation of repeated and coerced mRNA vaccines “go from the computer screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of millions of people, [injecting] some superfluous genetic sequence for which there is absolutely no need or justification.”
  6. Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent, the use of vaccine passports along with a “banking reset” could issue in a totalitarianism unlike the world has ever seen. Recalling the evil of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, “mass depopulation” remains a logical outcome.
  7. The fact that this at least could be true means everyone must “fight like crazy to make sure that system never forms.”
Dr. Yeadon began identifying himself as merely a “boring guy” who went “to work for a big drug company … listening to the main national broadcast and reading the broad sheet newspapers.”

Continuing, he said: “But in the last year I have realized that my government and its advisers are lying in the faces of the British people about everything to do with this coronavirus. Absolutely everything. It’s a fallacy this idea of asymptomatic transmission and that you don’t have symptoms, but you are a source of a virus. That lockdowns work, that masks have a protective value obviously for you or someone else, and that variants are scary things and we even need to close international borders in case some of these nasty foreign variants get in.

“Or, by the way, on top of the current list of gene-based vaccines that we have miraculously made, there will be some ‘top-up’ vaccines to cope with the immune escape variants.

“Everything I have told you, every single one of those things is demonstrably false. But our entire national policy is based on these all being broadly right, but they are all wrong.”

‘Conspiracy’ and not just ‘convergent opportunism’​

“But what I would like to do is talk about immune escape because I think that’s probably going to be the end game for this whole event, which I think is probably a conspiracy. Last year I thought it was what I called ‘convergent opportunism,’ that is a bunch of different stakeholder groups have managed to pounce on a world in chaos to push us in a particular direction. So it looked like it was kind of linked, but I was prepared to say it was just convergence.”

“I [now] think that’s naïve. There is no question in my mind that very significant powerbrokers around the world have either planned to take advantage of the next pandemic or created the pandemic. One of those two things is true because the reason it must be true is that dozens and dozens of governments are all saying the same lies and doing the same inefficacious things that demonstrably cost lives.

“And they are talking the same sort of future script which is, ‘We don’t want you to move around because of these pesky varmints, these “variants”’— which I call ‘samiants’ by the way, because they are pretty much the same — but they’re all saying this and they are all saying ‘don’t worry, there will be “top-up” vaccines that will cope with the potential escapees.’ They’re all saying this when it is obviously nonsense.”

Possible end game: vaccine ‘passports’ tied to spending allowances, thorough control​

“I think the end game is going to be, ‘everyone receives a vaccine’… Everyone on the planet is going to find themselves persuaded, cajoled, not quite mandated, hemmed-in to take a jab.

“When they do that every single individual on the planet will have a name, or unique digital ID and a health status flag which will be ‘vaccinated,’ or not … and whoever possesses that, sort of single database, operable centrally, applicable everywhere to control, to provide as it were, a privilege, you can either cross this particular threshold or conduct this particular transaction or not depending on [what] the controllers of that one human population database decide. And I think that’s what this is all about because once you’ve got that, we become playthings and the world can be as the controllers of that database want it.

“For example, you might find that after a banking reset that you can only spend through using an app that actually feeds off this [database], your ID, your name, [and] your health status flag.”

“And, yes, certainly crossing an international border is the most obvious use for these vaccine passports, as they are called, but I’ve heard talk of them already that they could be necessary for you to get into public spaces, enclosed public spaces. I expect that if they wanted to, you would not be able to leave your house in the future without the appropriate privilege on your app.

“But even if that’s not [the] true [intent of the vaccine campaign], it doesn’t matter, the fact that it could be true means everyone [reading] this should fight like crazy to make sure that [vaccine passport] system never forms.”

“[With such a system], here is an example of what they could make you do, and I think this is what they’re going to make [people] do.

“You could invent a story that is about a virus and its variations, its mutations over time. You could invent the story and make sure you embed it through the captive media, make sure that no one can counter it by censoring alternative sources, then people are now familiar with this idea that this virus mutates, which it does, and that it produces variants, which is true [as well], which could escape your immune system, and that’s a lie.

“But, nevertheless, we’re going to tell you it’s true, and then when we tell you that it’s true and we say ‘but we’ve got the cure, here’s a top-up vaccine,’ you’ll get a message, based on this one global, this one ID system: ‘Bing!’ it will come up and say ‘Dr. Yeadon, time for your top-up vaccine. And, by the way,’ it will say ‘your existing immune privileges remain valid for four weeks. But if you don’t get your top-up vaccine in that time, you will unfortunately detrimentally be an “out person,” and you don’t want that, do you?’ So, that’s how it’ll work, and people will just walk up and they’ll get their top-up vaccine.”

Gov’t lies, Big Pharma moves forward, medicine regulators get out of the way, and possible ‘mass-depopulation’​

“But I will take you through this, Patrick, because I am qualified to comment. I don’t know what Vanden Bossche is about. There was no possibility at all, based on all of the variants that are in the public domain, 4000 or so of them, none of them are going to escape immunity [i.e. become more dangerous].

“Nevertheless, politicians and health advisers (to loads of governments) are saying that they are. They’re lying. Well, why would you do that?

“Here’s the other thing, in parallel, pharmaceutical companies have said, several of them, it will be quite easy for us to adjust our gene-based vaccines, and we can hasten them through development, and we can help you.

“And here’s the real scary part, global medicines regulators like [the U.S. Food and Drug Administration] FDA, the Japanese medicines agency, the European Medicines Agency, have gotten together and announced … since top-up vaccines will be considered so similar to the ones that we have already approved for emergency use authorization, we are not going to require the drug companies to perform any clinical safety studies.

“So, you’ve got on the one hand, governments and their advisers that are lying to you that variants are different enough from the current virus that, even if you’re immune from natural exposure or vaccination, you’re a risk and you need to come and get this top-up vaccine. So, I think neither of those are true. So why is the drug company making the top-up vaccines? And [with] the regulators having got out of the way — and if Yeadon is right, and I’m sure I am or I wouldn’t be telling you this — you go from the computer screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of millions of people, some superfluous genetic sequence for which there is absolutely no need or justification.

“And if you wanted to introduce a characteristic which could be harmful and could even be lethal, and you can even tune it to say ‘let’s put it in some gene that will cause liver injury over a nine-month period,’ or, cause your kidneys to fail but not until you encounter this kind of organism [that would be quite possible]. Biotechnology provides you with limitless ways, frankly, to injure or kill billions of people.

“And since I can’t think of a benign explanation for any of the steps: variants, top-up vaccines, no regulatory studies… it’s not only that I cannot think of a benign explanation, the steps described, and the scenario described, and the necessary sort of resolution to this false problem is going to allow what I just described: unknown, and unnecessary gene sequences injected into the arms of potentially billions of people for no reason.

“I’m very worried … that pathway will be used for mass depopulation, because I can’t think of any benign explanation



‘Absurdly impossible’ variants will escape immunity, ‘just a lie’​

“If I can show you that one major thing that governments around the world are telling the people is a lie, you should take my 32 years of experienced opinion that says, most of it, if not all of it, is a lie.”

“The most different variant is only 0.3% different from the original sequence as emailed out of Wuhan in … January 2020. 0.3% [is] the one [variant] that is the most different on the planet so far. And now another way of saying it is, ‘all of the variants are not less than 99.7% identical to each other.’

“Now, you might be thinking, ‘hmm, .3%, is that enough [to escape immunity and become more dangerous]?’ The answer is no. Get away, ya know, get out of here …

“The human immune system is a thing of wonder. What it does is when it faces a new pathogen like this, you’ve got professional cells, they’re called professional antigen-presenting cells —they’re kind of rough tough things that tend not to succumb to viruses. And their job is to grab foreign things in the near environment and tear them limb from limb [inside the cell]. They really cut them up into hundreds of pieces. And then they present these pieces on the surfaces of their cell to other bits of your immune system, and amazingly, because of the variability that God and nature gave you, huge variability to recognize foreign things, and your body ends up using 15 to 20 different specific motifs that it spots about this virus. They’re called epitopes, basically they’re just like little photographs of the details about this virus. That’s what they do. And that is what is called your repertoire, your immune repertoire is like 20 different accurate photographs, close-ups, of different bits of this virus./';
 

Don Quixote

Woodpecker
The vaccine is either a form of slowly culling the population, or a way to discriminate between the compliant masses and those of us who have any remainder of critical thinking abilities left, and then exclude the latter from society. So it's basically a mind game. Even if it is not a bio-weapon in a syringe, there is no way to know for sure, and all the political shenanigans surrounding it is geared up to make you skeptical. You'll never know.
 

DanielH

Pelican
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines now officially only last for 6 months. So they will expect you to get two a year for your whole life. The ingredients to those vaccines include polyethylene, formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury, hexane, and foreign genetic material. Good luck getting that shot into your bloodstream a hundred plus times and not getting cancer. I predict nobody born after 2000 following the recommended vaccine regimen will make it to their 80th birthday.
 

Don Quixote

Woodpecker
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines now officially only last for 6 months. So they will expect you to get two a year for your whole life. The ingredients to those vaccines include polyethylene, formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury, hexane, and foreign genetic material. Good luck getting that shot into your bloodstream a hundred plus times and not getting cancer. I predict nobody born after 2000 following the recommended vaccine regimen will make it to their 80th birthday.
Is there any label with those ingredients on it? What I found only says "MRNA," and "peptides" or something. Definitely I think this is a form of slowly culling the population. A part of the UN "sustainability" protocol.
 

DanielH

Pelican
Is there any label with those ingredients on it? What I found only says "MRNA," and "peptides" or something. Definitely I think this is a form of slowly culling the population. A part of the UN "sustainability" protocol.
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine includes the following ingredients:

Active ingredient

  • mRNA (Nucleoside-modified mRNA encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2
Can mutate randomly to tell your cells to do anything. Unknown how your body will react.
Lipids

  • Polyethylene glycol (PEG) 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol (DMG)
Literally plastic.
  • 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
  • Cholesterol
  • SM-102 (Proprietary to Moderna)
Full name of SM-102 is (heptadecan-9-yl 8-((2-hydroxyethyl) (6-oxo-6-(undecyloxy) hexyl) amino) octanoate). Good luck with that proprietary concoction.
Salts

  • Thromethamine
  • Thomethamine hydrocholoride
  • Acetic acid
  • Sodium Acetate
Other

  • Sucrose

The Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine includes the following ingredients:

Active Ingredient

  • nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike glycoprotein (S) of SARS-CoV-2
Can mutate randomly to tell your cells to do anything. Unknown how your body will react.
Lipids

  • (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis (ALC-3015)
Hexane is a petroleum product and a major component of gasoline. Carcinogenic and poisonous.
  • (2- hexyldecanoate),2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide (ALC-0159)
Plastic again.
  • 1,2-distearoyl-snglycero-3-phosphocholine (DPSC)
No idea.
  • cholesterol
Salts

  • potassium chloride
  • monobasic potassium phosphate
  • sodium chloride
  • basic sodium phosphate dihydrate
Other

  • sucrose
Sources: https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articl...ents-in-the-Pfizer-BioNTech-COVID-19-vaccine-
The flu vaccine also has aluminum and mercury.
 

Don Quixote

Woodpecker
Can mutate randomly to tell your cells to do anything. Unknown how your body will react.

Literally plastic.

Full name of SM-102 is (heptadecan-9-yl 8-((2-hydroxyethyl) (6-oxo-6-(undecyloxy) hexyl) amino) octanoate). Good luck with that proprietary concoction.



Can mutate randomly to tell your cells to do anything. Unknown how your body will react.

Hexane is a petroleum product and a major component of gasoline. Carcinogenic and poisonous.

Plastic again.

No idea.

Sources: https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articl...ents-in-the-Pfizer-BioNTech-COVID-19-vaccine-
The flu vaccine also has aluminum and mercury.
Very helpful post, thanks.
 
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