Will you take the vaccine?

TexasJenn

Sparrow
Woman
I feel more thankful to be in Texas than ever. I've been doing a lot of outdoor things lately, and it's rare to see a person outdoors wearing a mask around here. The ones that do generally look anxious, scared. I feel kinda sorry for them, but so glad the majority of us are relaxed and enjoying life in spite of the broader situation.
 

Lamkins

Woodpecker
Woman
I’m in Missouri. We’ve never had a statewide mandate, but the nearest big city just extended the city mandate to July, however, I’m seeing more and more people waltzing around maskless and not being challenged in stores. Several stores. We moved to the Nowheresville last August. No mandate here. The local Dollar General has a strongly worded sign to mask up, so I take my money elsewhere.

My dad was told to pull his mask up in Menards recently by the fat, tatted up, skrilled cashier. He should’ve put down the $150 compressor and walked out. I would have. I may have said a nasty word or two to her too then been convicted by the Holy Spirit later.
 

catholicmom

Sparrow
Woman

COVID vaccines: time to confront anti-vax aggression

d41586-021-01084-x_19104558.jpg

"Efforts must expand into the realm of cyber security, law enforcement, public education and international relations. A high-level inter-agency task force reporting to the UN secretary-general could assess the full impact of anti-vaccine aggression, and propose tough, balanced measures. The task force should include experts who have tackled complex global threats such as terrorism, cyber attacks and nuclear armament, because anti-science is now approaching similar levels of peril. It is becoming increasingly clear that advancing immunization requires a counteroffensive."
The author's name is Peter Hotez.
Screen Shot 2021-04-29 at 9.50.05 AM.png
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
Here's a story I made up. Totally fiction.

There are some evolutionary biologists out there that want certain populations to have more kids. They're not mainstream scientists, they get laughed at or thrown out of conferences, but they have similiar ideas and network together. They like humanity but not individual people. IQ is the only measure of a person.

So say they cook up a plan to have a population limiter on a vaccine, which will most likely turn the next generation of men gay (if they are born at all). Pathogen + certain gene, creating an overenthusiastic immune response in about 25% of women. Narcolepsy works like this (which is probably why a bunch of people got it from a flu shot, and may be part of their inspiration). The beauty of this being it will take another generation to realize what's going on, and it's a laughable idea.

Of course, this plan only works if accelerated in a short period of time. If normal protocols are used, underlings will figure it out. So they need the perfect storm, and the scientists just call anyone asking questions an idiot.

They get a third-party oligarch to fund it. Some are excited about an Atlas Shrugged-style shutdown. Some are excited about living through a pandemic. Biotech people are excited because they get to bypass normal research protocols, and they will get a lot done. Countries in debt are eager to take the hush money-- rationalizing that they can do a lot of good once all this is over.

The only ending I see is that the scientists in question are incredibly arrogant. They're much smarter than the average, but stand short of real polymaths. They're also kind of fat and ugly and mad about it. In the end, they want to talk about their accomplishments. And they want the credit for it.
 

Shedlight11

Pigeon
Woman
Before I go on I’ll state my belief that we will be coerced into it. Doctors, grocery stores, airlines, etc., will have a no-vaccine no-entry policy. Sure, it won’t be mandated, but if you want to eat and get treated for a broken leg you’ll have to have it.

I‘m very resistant. I admit I have a lot of anxiety about it. I know someone who developed Guillain-Barre from (possibly) a flu shot. It was horrible to see a strong man go from upright to paralyzed and on disability in the space of an afternoon. It’s been years, and he will never be the same. But I’m resistant anyway because I don’t trust any of this to be what they say it is. Even if masses of people die from the vaccine Big Media will cover it up. I so look forward to judgment day.

After struggling with this pretty much all year it finally occurred to me to talk with my hubby about it and leave the decision up to him. I’m a slow learner. He’s wise and will do the right thing for us.
Under no circumstance will I get the vaccine!

I feel so strongly about it. I am willing to leave my job and live a simple/off-grid lifestyle. I don't care if I could never fly again. I am grateful for the trips I was able to take. If I can't eat in a restaurant, I am more than happy to cook. These things never really bothered me to begin with. Anything that has the potential to remove my faith in Christ is not for me. For some reason, I always think back to this scripture-

"Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world you do not have the love of the father in you"
-John 2:15


This world is so temporary that I refuse to conform and do what everyone else is doing for comforts here. Yes, comfort is nice, but it wont buy me salvation in the kingdom of heaven. Christians have always been persecuted for going against the grain or the narrative.

Personally, I am trying to plan a simple life and have a farm. This way food isn't an issue.

My grandfather was coerced by his doctor and basically told him he needed it if he was going to fly.

I pray that you and your husband are able to make the best choice necessary .

Trust in God. He has a plan.

His will be done.

God bless!
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
I was talking to my dad the other day and he said that my great-grandfather never took a shot (unless it was slivovica haha) and lived to 103 anyway. I guess it runs in the family. I miss him.

It's always astounding to me how everyone wants to live to 100 (or never die) but doesn't want to do any of the things to get there. Be frugal, work hard (but productively), have family, be happy. God put certain things in place that are eternally true.

I think I need a break from all this stuff. Before I was thinking about how much easier things would be if I just said, no big deal. There is a pandemic and here is a vaccine. More people getting it means we cam go back to normal. The people believing this aren't evil. Most of them are smart. This thinking makes sense within the parameters.

Yet everyone knows that "something" is wrong. So it probably depends on what that "something" is.
 

Lamkins

Woodpecker
Woman
I was talking to my dad the other day and he said that my great-grandfather never took a shot (unless it was slivovica haha) and lived to 103 anyway. I guess it runs in the family. I miss him.

It's always astounding to me how everyone wants to live to 100 (or never die) but doesn't want to do any of the things to get there. Be frugal, work hard (but productively), have family, be happy. God put certain things in place that are eternally true.

I think I need a break from all this stuff. Before I was thinking about how much easier things would be if I just said, no big deal. There is a pandemic and here is a vaccine. More people getting it means we cam go back to normal. The people believing this aren't evil. Most of them are smart. This thinking makes sense within the parameters.

Yet everyone knows that "something" is wrong. So it probably depends on what that "something" is.

I understand just how you feel. I’ve had these same thoughts. It’s so tiring. I won’t give in, but I occasionally wish I was just a sheep, happy to be diapered up and spoon fed in every way possible by Big Gov and Big Media.
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
I understand just how you feel. I’ve had these same thoughts. It’s so tiring. I won’t give in, but I occasionally wish I was just a sheep, happy to be diapered up and spoon fed in every way possible by Big Gov and Big Media.

My mom always liked the icon/story of the Forty Martyrs of Sebaste for some reason, where they were all thrown out onto a frozen lake and had fires going on around them so they would renounce Christianity. One jumped out, but died anyway, and another soldier jumped in.

I've been thinking about that last soldier a lot recently. I've taken vaccines and flu shots, yet this feels different. It feels specifically like catering to a falsehood, or negotiating with terrorists. And then I have thoughts like-- what if the genetic modifier is for COVID-21, so all the unjabbed get sick or die or get sterilized because the thought probably is that they are lower conscientiousness so eff them etc.

So I'm trying to think about that last solider who went in when he didn't have to.
 

Elipe

Kingfisher
And then I have thoughts like-- what if the genetic modifier is for COVID-21, so all the unjabbed get sick or die or get sterilized because the thought probably is that they are lower conscientiousness so eff them etc.
That's fascinating, I've read someone saying the opposite, that the elites don't want mindless sheep like the kind that just blindly take the shot in their NWO. That they want to rule over the cream of the crop, not well... the dung heap. That's also more in line with the 90% figure I've heard thrown around in regard to world depopulation. It's more likely that 90% would take the shot than not.
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
That's fascinating, I've read someone saying the opposite, that the elites don't want mindless sheep like the kind that just blindly take the shot in their NWO. That they want to rule over the cream of the crop, not well... the dung heap. That's also more in line with the 90% figure I've heard thrown around in regard to world depopulation. It's more likely that 90% would take the shot than not.

Possibly. The comments in question I was reading had to do with repackaging the sterility research as feral dog/cat control.

Also there's a fungus that infects cicadas that turns the males gay (for lack of a better term) and the females hypersexual but unable to finish intercourse. It makes their butts fall off and releases the fungus into the air, ready to infect the next batch. So I was thinking about those two things re: Bill Gates releasing genetically modified mosquitos that die off in generation (obviously they're trying to use the research for something else, or maybe the mosquitos cause infection?), plus all the comments around here about "protein shedding."

I don't know. I could be wrong. I would like to be wrong.
 

Starlight

Woodpecker
Woman
Possibly. The comments in question I was reading had to do with repackaging the sterility research as feral dog/cat control.

Also there's a fungus that infects cicadas that turns the males gay (for lack of a better term) and the females hypersexual but unable to finish intercourse. It makes their butts fall off and releases the fungus into the air, ready to infect the next batch. So I was thinking about those two things re: Bill Gates releasing genetically modified mosquitos that die off in generation (obviously they're trying to use the research for something else, or maybe the mosquitos cause infection?), plus all the comments around here about "protein shedding."

I don't know. I could be wrong. I would like to be wrong.
I’ve definitely thought the same thing. Like what if the jab actually gave protection for the sheep when they unleash the *real* pandemic thereby killing off all the independent freethinkers (I.e. us).

As to the insect models, they are very limited. Humans have a very wide range of genetic diversity as opposed to gnats or mosquitos. But CRISPR is also very real and has been around for over a decade now. CRISPR tech terrifies me down to the bone and I absolutely believe that CRISPR technology is being used in the mRNA jabs.

No one is talking about CRISPR anymore. Anyone else in the sciences notice the same?
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
I’ve definitely thought the same thing. Like what if the jab actually gave protection for the sheep when they unleash the *real* pandemic thereby killing off all the independent freethinkers (I.e. us).

As to the insect models, they are very limited. Humans have a very wide range of genetic diversity as opposed to gnats or mosquitos. But CRISPR is also very real and has been around for over a decade now. CRISPR tech terrifies me down to the bone and I absolutely believe that CRISPR technology is being used in the mRNA jabs.

No one is talking about CRISPR anymore. Anyone else in the sciences notice the same?

Yes. I agree 100%

Plus, large population = large sample size. "Convoluted" roll-out is to keep tabs on which group gets what. So any number of things could be going on.

CRISPR is definitely one of them though.
 

messaggera

Woodpecker
Woman
No one is talking about CRISPR anymore. Anyone else in the sciences notice the same?

I did a lot of research reading on CRISPR chimera years ago.
NPR has quite few older articles - I see the topic is making its way back to NPR again.

This is a two year old article from another source:

Creation of the first human–monkey chimera​

[Biotechniques link]

professor in the Gene Expression Laboratories at the Salk Institute for Biological studies (CA, USA), has been successful in creating a monkey–human chimera that is said “…to shed important light on early development and could one day lead to new methods for growing transplantable human tissues,” according to Salk President Elizabeth Blackburn. Previously, his team grew “a rat pancreas, heart and eyes in a developing mouse… human cells and tissues in early-stage pig and cattle embryos,” Blackburn reported.


CRISPR technology becomes scary when combined with the controversial IVF procedure.

Crispr Babies, IVF, and the Ethics of Genetic Class Warfare​

[Wire Article]

SUSPEND YOUR BELIEF in moral absolutism for just a moment. There is a universe in which the eugenics He practiced are actually a good idea.

...electing to do something called preimplantation genetic diagnosis, a process that allows in vitro specialists to identify which embryos have BRCA and which don’t, and then only implant the ones that don’t.

Daar told me that lack of access to IVF has revived early-20th-century eugenics ideas that some are better fit to reproduce than others. Current law and policy surrounding IVF—where some are given access to expensive treatments while, for others, they remain out of reach—are tantamount to a new eugenics, she says, because they enable demographic features likes socioeconomic status, race, ethnicity, marital status, sexual orientation, and disability to suppress access to reproductive technology.
 

An0dyne

Robin
It's not even a question of parents having a say-so in the daughter's life or not.
It's a question of falsely believing one can make verbal justifications that will change someone's mind about the faux flu.

I was on a zoom call today where someone expressed outrage that more businesses were not banning unvaxed people, and someone else piped in "I don't know why they can't just force every single person to take the jab, for the greater good."

(sure it briefly made my blood boil BUT) Do you think there is any rational argument I could have made that would make such a person change their entire outlook and say "Gosh Max you're right. You should be exempt from the shot because of that thoughtful and insightful point you just made. " If you do, please post it below. I'm waiting.

No. There is nothing good that can come from that discussion.

Hence why I made a post here questioning whether it is OK to deceive others about the status of your vaccination (mixed bag of answers). The best thing to do is DO NOT DISCUSS YOUR PRIVATE MEDICAL DECISIONS. The next best thing is to either be vague or mislead them if you are comfortable doing so, with a final option to say "No I did not receive the vaccine yet" and do not elaborate further. Saying anything else will do NOTHING POSITIVE FOR ANYONE and will likely lead to more family problems, not less.
This was good advice, thank you. My natural inclination is to try to argue my way out of things, so it was helpful to have this pushback. We talked it over and have come up with a few different strategies. She’s going to try, “Thinking about the COVID situation causes great anxiety and I’d rather not discuss it.” We also have the medical privacy line as back up. Here’s hoping this works at the family reunion next month!
 

Ah_Tibor

Woodpecker
Woman
The other thread mentioned about Michigan and West Virginia's re-opening is tied to vaccine rates.

Michigan has a lot of ghetto blacks and West Virginia has a lot of welfare whites. I want to say they have the most amount of people on welfare but I could have made up that statistic.

Florida has been "open" for awhile. They also have a lot of ((wealthy whites)) so no Desantis isn't your friend. He wants his state to be a haven for certain people.

Texas is the new go-to state for Californians. Tennessee is along those lines, too.

I'm including anyone whose job will be automated in the future in this category, too. That includes a lot of middle class jobs too, in case anyone is WELL WHY ARE THEY GIVING IT TO ENTIRE SCHOOL STAFFS

Someone smarter than me could probably make a chart about demographics. Pretty sure it would line up.
 

TexasJenn

Sparrow
Woman
So now with reports coming out about vaccine viral shedding, I'm going to try to avoid vaccinated people and their mRNA cooties.

And today the Google Doodle is promoting the vaccine.
 

Mrs.DanielH

Robin
Woman
I’ve definitely thought the same thing. Like what if the jab actually gave protection for the sheep when they unleash the *real* pandemic thereby killing off all the independent freethinkers (I.e. us).

As to the insect models, they are very limited. Humans have a very wide range of genetic diversity as opposed to gnats or mosquitos. But CRISPR is also very real and has been around for over a decade now. CRISPR tech terrifies me down to the bone and I absolutely believe that CRISPR technology is being used in the mRNA jabs.

No one is talking about CRISPR anymore. Anyone else in the sciences notice the same?
You're right, it seems that CRISPR is under lock and key. Being trained in the sciences, i remember learning about it, but since those introductions it seems like no one talks about what it's ACTUALLY used for. Just theoretical uses.
 
Top