Will you take the vaccine?

Ah_Tibor

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
Would be more accurate if it mentioned all the vaccines for coronaviruses that turned out deadly in animal trials or lead to antibody enhanced disease and were never approved or even brought to the stage of human trials because of it.

I thought about it. Usually the answers for these things are, "well, this time is different/that's why we have to use a new technology."
 

Lamkins

Woodpecker
Woman
I just spent a few days at a big tourist place. In other words, lots of people from lots of different places, all of us packed together like sardines. I’d say 95% weren’t wearing a face diaper. What was interesting were the majority of those wearing it were teens and preteens. Shaking my head. There were a group running around OUTSIDE masked up.

I asked the Lord to protect us from the vaccinated shedding all over everyone.
 

Ah_Tibor

Kingfisher
Woman
Orthodox
I just spent a few days at a big tourist place. In other words, lots of people from lots of different places, all of us packed together like sardines. I’d say 95% weren’t wearing a face diaper. What was interesting were the majority of those wearing it were teens and preteens. Shaking my head. There were a group running around OUTSIDE masked up.

They wear them in school, so they're kind of wired to do it at this point.

I was talking to two of my in-laws who are teachers and they literally force them all day to wear a mask, even when they're having trouble breathing. "We're all wearing masks. You don't have any trouble, you just don't want to listen."

I wonder how many of them are pro-masking because they're not allowed to discipline the students, but they can humiliate them in this manner (the same way cities fear disorder, but can't say that, so they implement a curfew based on "health").

Edit: old article from 2013 about Guantanamo Bay detainees

 
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PerAsperaAdAstra

Chicken
Woman
This is all very interesting to me, to see this line of thinking actually (finally) being brought into the public consciousness, because I've NEVER trusted vaccines. My dad made the decision that none of his kids would be vaccinated as children based solely on the fact that manufacturers are so completely shielded from liability. He certainly looked into and was aware of the various risks and the potential for using vaccination as a covert delivery system for undisclosed substances, but that was all extraneous to the core fact that without liability, the entire system must be held as suspect - at the very least.

Bottom line: liability and compensation for vaccine injury is strictly limited BY LAW because without these limitations, the industry would not even be viable, let alone massively profitable. Most people don't even know about this, and if I say something that comes across as being "anti-vax," they jump right into accusing me of suggesting that vaccines directly cause autism (which I have literally never suggested). My little bro didn't even believe me the other day when I started telling him about the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. He wanted me to basically "cite my sources" because "it should basically be legally impossible to get that kind of immunity from liability." - rofl, uhhh, exactly.

No vaccines for me, no vaccines for my kiddos. E V E R.

I've built my whole life around being able to give people the finger, (usually) metaphorically speaking, if they try to coerce me into doing anything. You think I NEED whatever it is you can hold over my head? LOL, nice try. The only things I need are the things I have every right to use force to defend.

Granted, it's entirely possible that I could be forcibly vaccinated, but never willingly. I'm not that big or strong and my most lethal weapon-at-hand is probably a rolling pin or a cast iron pan. But if it ever comes to that, you better believe I can make them work for it. They can chase me down and wrestle me into submission and jab me somewhere in full view of the public (or if it's in my home, I'LL have the video footage). We'll just say this sort of scenario would constitute the juncture at which Lady Justice begins singing a different tune. :blush:

At the beginning of the pandemic, my husband said something about being first in line for the vaccine when it came out. I've slowly brought him around by way of breadcrumbs (money trails and financial interests, "deals" cut between manufacturers and lawmakers, entire populations "accidentally" sterilized, vaccine-strain epidemics, etc.).

My lil bro also poked his head into the garage yesterday while I was working and was basically like "Whoa, yeah, there are some seriously legitimate concerns about this coronavirus vaccine from a safety standpoint based on XYZ."

It's very, VERY interesting now that so many of the people who used to attempt to discredit me with great prejudice for being suspicious of vaccines have now started picking up on the critically important and easily observable realities of this situation on paper - which they previously ignored in favor of deboooonking the purpose-built conspiracy theories they're given as "fodder for ridicule" by the big media.

I think their hamsters have begun to sense the presence of the snake.
This is an amazing report. You can be so proud of yourself! What a great job!
 
Is anyone else uncomfortable using the phrase “my body my choice” as a comeback to not being jabbed?? I am against abortion and while I know that phrase doesn’t actually work to support abortion many believe that it does. I just fear that I may be promoting something evil accidentally if I ever use that phrase to defend my choice.
I've had exactly the same concern. One can also say, "What about 'my body my choice'?" thereby forcing them to explain why it's different, then you can say - yes it is different, in this case it's about doing something to my body that I don't want done, in the other case it's about preventing you from destroying a new body, that of an unborn child.

Man how some vegans get upset when you ask them about abortion. Squishing a beetle is murder most foul, but crushing the life out of an unborn child is just disposing of a "clump of cells."
 

PerAsperaAdAstra

Chicken
Woman
I have a friend who says she's against abortion "but who's going to take care of those kids?" She was in the foster system, so my guess is that colors her perception a bit.

You are probably right.

I grew up with a mom that told me repeatedly in arguments that "she got me despite my father wanting her to have an abortion" and that "she got my sister because my dad begged her not to get the abortion".

So I am not sure what to think about it myself I am convinced that parents that don't respect their kids in as so much as granting them life shouldn't be parents. At least I never felt wanted. Many times I hoped to die in a car accident while we were screaming at each other. My sister had suicidal thoughts since early childhood as well.

I am glad that I never had to make that decision myself. However, I always wanted to have kids with the right guy. I just didn't find him.
 

messaggera

Kingfisher
Woman
mom that told me repeatedly in arguments that "she got me despite my father wanting her to have an abortion"

Really sorry to hear a mother say such an awful comment to her own child - she sounds as if she herself has been in a sorrowful place.
You are not the only child to hear this from a parent, and most often part of the purpose is for parental alienation - to ruin the relationship with the other parent (and or sibling in this case too) - while boosting the other parent's position.

It is cruel, selfish, and a form of emotional abuse.

Have heard these types of comments, and makes you wonder how hurt one is with themselves that they could ever say a comment that would set the precedent for future relationships/interactions with their child. Also this is damaging for development - relationships.

My father verbal abused me when I was in high school. He took out his anger for my mom and external frustrations out on me.
The reconciliation period for us was rough, but worth it. My father has a lot of regrets, and I have a better understanding on what he went through as a parent.

At least I never felt wanted.

You are here now. We are not our parents, and we can learn how not to behave as a parent (and an individual) by identifying our parent's flaws and faults not to be emulate. And has cliche as it sounds the greatest love we will ever experience is when we put our trust in Jesus Christ.

May peace be in your heart, and God bless you.
 

Atlas Shrugged

Robin
Woman
Still working in healthcare with no injection. I’m with 3 agencies now to maximize future endeavors and a recruiter for one agency said now some healthcare facilities are more accepting of religious exemptions and he can write one up for me and have a pastor sign off on it. Crazy how you need clergy to sign off. They just won’t go with your word. Oh well but at least that’s better than nothing. I’m glad there are still many facilities that are not forcing it......yet. But many hospitals have staffing shortages and are struggling so it would be dumb on their part to lose more employees. Another side note some facilities are so hard up that on top of regular travel pay which is great they are offering bonuses from 5-10k when you finish your 3 month assignment. That is a desperate hospital, lab, etc.
 

BLMeToo

Sparrow
You are probably right.

I grew up with a mom that told me repeatedly in arguments that "she got me despite my father wanting her to have an abortion" and that "she got my sister because my dad begged her not to get the abortion".

So I am not sure what to think about it myself I am convinced that parents that don't respect their kids in as so much as granting them life shouldn't be parents. At least I never felt wanted. Many times I hoped to die in a car accident while we were screaming at each other. My sister had suicidal thoughts since early childhood as well.

I am glad that I never had to make that decision myself. However, I always wanted to have kids with the right guy. I just didn't find him.

I know how you feel. My mom tried to abort me too, and my dad used that to manipulate me against her. I was suicidal for most of my life because of it. It's truly disgusting how our parents can do this to us, and for society to be completely indifferent. But God loves us more than we can ever know, and His love and mercy are enough.
 

messaggera

Kingfisher
Woman
The vaccines are being tested as a live (vector) virus in nasal spray, a patch, and high pressure fluid jet.

Here is the first "high pressure fluid jet" technology article that starts off with "One of the few legitimate reasons to be hesitant about getting vaccinated is a fear of needles."

I can think of a few legitimate reasons for not getting this vaccine and it is not about needles.

Here is the nasal spray option being trialed now. Again opening line, "This vaccine is administered through a single dose of one spray in each nostril. There are no needles involved like the vaccines available now....For people who are afraid of needles, having any type of vaccine, something you could put in the nose, would be much more acceptable to them."

WEre the COVID test nose swaps a prep for this method of inoculating?
Oh and a live Kennel Cough virus (a dog virus) is being used as the vector.


The new vaccine uses a live virus like other nasal vaccines for influenza.

This one has a vector not used in humans before, but scientists believe it is safe because people have had contact with it through their pets.

“The Pi5 virus itself, parainfluenza virus type 5, is part of the kennel cough vaccine that’s given to dogs, and people get exposed to that. We know they do because that’s been evaluated and as far as we know, they’ve never had symptoms,” Spearman said.
And last the patch.

Here is the last option, a patch.

Muller and his colleagues have spent years developing a skin patch that can deliver influenza, polio, dengue and other vaccines without requiring needles or cold storage. They wondered if the same technology could be used for covid-19 vaccines....
Vaccines delivered this way tend to elicit stronger immune responses because the skin is full of immune cells, says Muller. For example, when the flu vaccine is administered via this skin patch, a sixth of the normal dose can be used because it produces a stronger response.
 
The vaccines are being tested as a live (vector) virus in nasal spray, a patch, and high pressure fluid jet.

Here is the first "high pressure fluid jet" technology article that starts off with "One of the few legitimate reasons to be hesitant about getting vaccinated is a fear of needles."

I can think of a few legitimate reasons for not getting this vaccine and it is not about needles.

Here is the nasal spray option being trialed now. Again opening line, "This vaccine is administered through a single dose of one spray in each nostril. There are no needles involved like the vaccines available now....For people who are afraid of needles, having any type of vaccine, something you could put in the nose, would be much more acceptable to them."

Oh and a live Kennel Cough virus (a dog virus) is being used as the vector.




Here is the last option, a patch.


I wonder, if they bring in the nose spray, if they'll allow us to spray ourselves at home.

Or do we need to be sprayed by a "professional," who is authorized to certify our vaccinated status, so the vaxx pass system "needs" to be kept in place.
 

Atlas Shrugged

Robin
Woman
I have heard about some tricks with nasal flu spray but you gotta be careful and you gotta throw away the bottle. Vaseline will catch anything so if you can safely shove cotton and Vaseline up your nose and pull it out right after that might work. Also line the inside of your nose with Vaseline. But it’s gotta go up there! You practically need tweezers to pull it out. Never tried that I just always said no and risked being fired but a few people said they did that. I’m sure some microscopic particles still get in if you are not perfectly careful so who knows. To me it seems like a lot of work but I guess to avoid losing your job it’s not that crazy.
 
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