Winter forum update (2021)

[Roosh]

I'd like to share some changes to the forum along with new guidance on religious discussions.

1. The Breaking News and Politics subforums have been closed. Since there is no longer a discernable line between news, current events, and politics, I've decided it's best to organize threads concerning these subjects according to location. All United States news and politics threads now go in the United States subforum. All international news and politics now go in the International subforum. Culture happenings, whether in the USA or abroad, can go in the Culture subforum.

2. Everyone's religious affiliation will be displayed underneath their username. Previously, only Orthodox had tags but now everyone gets one. Update your religion in Account Details.

3. "Orthodox glowies" will be banned. There has been a rash of users who claim they are Orthodox but post anti-Orthodox or false flag content. Since there is no way to verify a user's religious identification, don't put too much stock in the identification of new members who have yet to build a positive reputation. Report trolls as always.

4. Non-Orthodox answers are not permitted in the Inquirers subforum. The Inquirers subforum is for those interested in Orthodox Christianity, not other denominations of Christianity. If you are not Orthodox, or do not possess the Orthodox answer, you cannot answer questions that lead people to your non-Orthodox faith. While you are free to share your faith and opinions in appropriate contexts, you cannot evangelize non-Orthodox faiths on this forum. Also if you're a new member, "inquiring" means you are inquiring to the faith, not looking for a prideful debate. Those looking to argue will be banned.

Edit: One more new rule

5. Do not use the forum to personally insult anyone. The forum has a longstanding rule against personally insulting other members, but I'm now extending that rule to even people who are not members of this forum. You are no longer allowed to insult or mock other people, even people who are unlikable. We cannot gossip about them or pass off speculation as truth. Any information you share about others must be factual and rational. Your critiques must be high-minded and intelligent without emotion, passion, or the desire to inflict pain. The forum can no longer serve as a tabloid or a means to attack one's enemies, no matter how sinful their behavior. We must strive for the Christian ideal where we discuss the truth and the reality of evil behavior without condemning our fellow neighbor.

 

[Papist]

I have updated my profile. With respect to religious affiliation, whilst I'd define my beliefs as traditional Catholic, I noticed that Sedevacantist wasn't an option. I know more and more Catholics are subscribing to the notion that the chair is empty.

 

[JoeChill]

"Orthodox glowies"

I'm glad that others have noticed this too........

 

[Thomas More]

I updated my profile to list Protestant.

Under relationship status, there was no category for widower, so I selected single.

 

[Pointy Elbows]

I updated my profile to list Protestant.

Under relationship status, there was no category for widower, so I selected single.

Thomas More, I'm sorry for your loss. This appears to be very recent, as you mentioned she was still alive not long ago. I hope she did not suffer. May you heal fully, in time. God bless you, brother.

 

[presidentcarter]

Is there a 'Protestant but Ortho Curious' option?

 

[Parmesan]

Is there a 'Protestant but Ortho Curious' option?

A POC?

 

[The Beast1]

I hope my avatar and delightful greeting in my signature hasn't confused anyone.

 

[rouchno1fan]

Hi Roosh, It might be helpful to also show country under the username. This is useful to quickly get an idea of the perspective of the writer of each post.

 

[Bird]

I'm a RCC and not sure which one to choose

• Catholic
• Trad Catholic

 

[Papist]

I'm a RCC and not sure which one to choose

• Catholic
• Trad Catholic

Do you accept the Novus Ordo mass? Trads basically reject Vatican II.

 

[2 Right Hands]

Do you accept the Novus Ordo mass? Trads basically reject Vatican II.

That's your definition. Most traditional Catholics simply attend TLM which doesn't automatically mean rejecting Vatican II.

 

[Grow Bag]

Updated mine from Catholic to Orthodox Enquirer, which is more accurate a description of my religious status.

 

[Jacques Bel]

While I understand that the aim of each new rule is to make this forum as Orthodox and godly as possible, I don't fully grasp rule number 4 and consider that it is written in such a way that leads to confusion.:

Does it mean that anyone can answer in that subforum as long as the answer doesn't contradict Orthodox faith? For example, there's a question on why do people pray to Mary. The answer is essentially the same from a Catholic and an Orthodox point of view. Could a Catholic answer there or is it forbidden, since the answer doesn't come from an Orthodox Christian?

I also think that on any Christian forum there should be a subforum where people posted their prayer intentions so that other users could pray about them, and I haven't seen it here (maybe I haven't looked deep enough yet, so excuse me if that's the case).

That being said, I'm glad that a forum that once was a latrine has become a good place. Laus Deo.

 

[Palestrina]

That's your definition. Most traditional Catholics simply attend TLM which doesn't automatically mean rejecting Vatican II.

All traditional Catholics basically reject Vatican II and especially the New Mass of Paul VI. @Papist is correct. It was those who could not accept the New Mass that constituted the original “traditional Catholics.” The rejection of the New Mass is the foundation of the traditionalist movement.

 

[2 Right Hands]

No, all Sedevacantists reject Vatican II. But, of course, you as a Sede, would think of yourself as the only "true" traditional Catholic.

I made two mistakes: I've derailed the thread and started a discussion with a Sede.

 

[Lawrence87]

I agree about the 'Inquirers and Catechumens' forum. Seems like a lot of people are going there to debate rather than actually learn lately. I probably am guilty of encouraging these debates by engaging in them, but given the nature of that part of the forum, I feel like certain things need to be answered. I welcome the changes

 

[Palestrina]

No, all Sedevacantists reject Vatican II.

Correct. All Sedevacantists, like all Traditional Catholics in general, reject Vatican II. The theological underpinning and the moral justification of the traditional movement is this: that Vatican II and its reforms are false and evil; that they are a substantial distortion of Catholicism. Why do we establish an apostolate against that of Bergoglio and the local Novus Ordo bishop, except because the doctrines, rites, and disciplines of Vatican II and its reforms are contrary to faith and morals? If they are not contrary to faith and morals, then why do we have a traditional movement? Why are we doing this? What justification would we have to do it in the eyes of God? This is Trad Catholicism 101.

But, of course, you as a Sede, would think of yourself as the only "true" traditional Catholic.

Hardly.

I made two mistakes: I've derailed the thread and started a discussion with a Sede.

Agreed. Vaya con Dios!

 

[Kadikoy]

No, all Sedevacantists reject Vatican II. But, of course, you as a Sede, would think of yourself as the only "true" traditional Catholic.

I made two mistakes: I've derailed the thread and started a discussion with a Sede.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Roosh]

Does it mean that anyone can answer in that subforum as long as the answer doesn't contradict Orthodox faith? For example, there's a question on why do people pray to Mary. The answer is essentially the same from a Catholic and an Orthodox point of view. Could a Catholic answer there or is it forbidden, since the answer doesn't come from an Orthodox Christian?

If your answer does not contradict Orthodoxy, you will not be punished, but what are the odds you can accomplish that if you're not Orthodox? This is a new rule so I'll see how best to implement it in time. Then I can offer further guidance.