Woke Military

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
Let's all be honest - of all the branches, the Army is the one you need numerically fewer in UNLESS you are an empire with intent on seizing and permanently holding large swaths of land far away from your own territorial borders.

I think people are realizing that now in one form or another.

Navy is for power projection and trade security.
Marines are for coastal and port security to accompany Navy (Think Tripoli and the Barbary Coast Wars)

Doctrinally....The army is the occupying force....why do you need 2 million soldiers is not for territorial defense in the US... It's for ensuring as security abroad.

Post WWII we agreed to let the European powers more or less have independence, with the caveat that they allow the US to set their foreign policy and security posture.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
Keep in mind we're not even supposed to have a standing army. From the Constitution:
Article I, Section 8, Clause 12:

[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; . . .
The money can't be used for terms longer than two years, yet various leases and contracts extend longer than that, enlistments are for much longer terms than that, it's just completely ignored. A Navy can't really be used to persecute one's own people, but an Army sure can.
 

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
Keep in mind we're not even supposed to have a standing army. From the Constitution:

The money can't be used for terms longer than two years, yet various leases and contracts extend longer than that, enlistments are for much longer terms than that, it's just completely ignored. A Navy can't really be used to persecute one's own people, but an Army sure can.
There was that whole Civil War thing, and the blockading of Southern Ports by the Yankees.... but except that non-standard circumstance.... you're spot on.

If you look at all empires in time, the synthesis of military war machine and the ability to use their forces for imposition of economic policy both foreign and domestic entities is critical for continuity.

Here in lies the problem with the current Regime. The White Rage Milley stooges are faced with a serious dilema on how to recruit forces whilst bowing to DEI agendas. This is coupled with the reality that people who reach that level of leadership are almost always Yes Men by their nature.

Something I noticed in both the Military AND Corporate world is that it is rare for someone is an innovator to reach positiosn of power.

A great Example is General Victor Krulak or "Brute" as he was called. He was one of the toughest, most intelligent and fearless leaders in the Marine Corps in the WWII time and witnessed the Japanese use of flat boats in invasions of China as a 3rd party observer as a young Lt. He then revolutionized the military's efforts by pushing for what became the Higgins Boat... and allowed amphibious assaults in WWII.

He was incredibly controversial because of his blunt and unforgiving attitude about incompetence and often lacked poltical correctness/tact required to reach the role of Commandant.... which he wanted. He was snubbed for his lack of cow-towing to other's YET the man mad contributions to the WWII War strategy and execution on par with Eisenhower and Patton.... though less well known.

This is the example of institutional inertia that one has to deal with when looking at the leadership of the military. They often serve to appease the institution's existance. The worse example of this in recent times was General Amos, who was a prolific waster of the Tax Payer budget.
 

dicknixon72

Pelican
This is the example of institutional inertia that one has to deal with when looking at the leadership of the military. They often serve to appease the institution's existance. The worse example of this in recent times was General Amos, who was a prolific waster of the Tax Payer budget.

There was a time even in our nation's comparatively short history where members of the federal standing army were looked upon as lazy, shiftless leeches, being paid, fed, and housed to do nothing. This was juxtaposed to local and state militiamen, who were gallant citizen-soldiers who took up arms in defense of their homeland when necessary, then laid down those weapons of treacherous war after hostilities ceased.
 

homersheineken

Pelican
Protestant
"We have reached the multi-level marketing phase of the military recruiting crisis"


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get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox

SHort version: they want to take away your disability benefits if you make too much money.

I saw this "proposal" from the CBO. Totally Crazy.

I don't see this happening at all... but it really made me angry as a disabled vet. Especially considering that we are are throwing out all sorts of free money for other entitlements.

There's some legit fraud in the VA Disability healthcare system.... but what do they expect when we've been at war for 20 years. Its retardedly obvious.

I see this getting a lots of attention from VA groups and doubt this will make it into a bill.
 

dicknixon72

Pelican
There's some legit fraud in the VA Disability healthcare system.... but what do they expect when we've been at war for 20 years. Its retardedly obvious.

There is fraud with any entitlement program in a nation this large. I remember reading a story locally a year ago about a lady who was convicted of fraud for cashing her mom's SSI checks the SSA kept sending her a year after she died. She had to do some jail time, probation, restitution, etc. I thought, "its her mom's money. I'm sure she would've wanted her daughter to have it. Who cares?"

End of the day, as a taxpayer, I'd rather some Vet illegitimately get some gibs than Israel or Ukraine.
 
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