Woman stiffs waiter on $100 meal´s tip because shes single mom

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megatron

 
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What I find objectionable is not so much that she didn't tip, but that she used being a single mother as an excuse for it; like EVERYONE in society should automatically give her a pass because she squeezed some unfortunate bastard out of her fishhole.
 

Veloce

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Mage said:
I am more inclined to view tipping in a negative light rather than positive, but of course this woman didn't tip for all the wrong reasons.

I believe tipping is wrong for three main reasons:

1)The waiters are lucky people who get to work in contact with clients who are satisfied from eating and try to show off to their date, so they can receive tips. There are many people who do much more shittier jobs but receive no tips because they have less contact with satisfied show-off people. When was the last time you did tip your thrash remover, your ambulance driver, your hairdresser, your postman, construction workers, the guys who cleaned canalization, guys who repaired water pipes for your city block?

2)Since most waiters are women its just another way how society transfers money from men to women. I never tip women, but I do tip guys sometimes. The girls have many options and betas who will rush to their help, while the guys must struggle alone in this life, plus they are pressured to support women too!

3)Printing a tip on a bill is just absurd.

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Aliblahba

 
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Walderschmidt said:
Caligula said:
That really doesn't look like a British receipt. In most cases the tip or "service charge" is included in the UK (12 to 15 per cent I think). This is the case for 90% or more of restaurants. If you don't want to pay that you have to ask them to remove it from the bill and bring you a new one. I've only done this once and it was to make a point after receiving egregious service that made a business lunch very awkward.

In any case it's common sense that you should factor in the tip when eating out. It's part of the cost so if you can't afford to tip you can't afford to eat out it's that simple.

You're correct - it isn't.

Also - the article refers to the amount of money as $140.

Look at the receipt. There's no denomination symbol in front of the price. The article is from the U.K. and maybe they converted the price so readers wouldn't be confused. The middle letter in MOM could easily be a "u" indicating MUM. We don't use that word in the U.S.

Also, isn't there enough news in the U.K. to report on? I find it hard to believe they are so bored to write up a whole article about a woman's receipt in the U.S.

And the word entitlement is used frequently. Again, U.K. Besides, American waiters don't have time to bitch about something like this. They move onto the next table.

Cheers.
 

Caligula

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Aliblahba said:
Walderschmidt said:
Caligula said:
That really doesn't look like a British receipt. In most cases the tip or "service charge" is included in the UK (12 to 15 per cent I think). This is the case for 90% or more of restaurants. If you don't want to pay that you have to ask them to remove it from the bill and bring you a new one. I've only done this once and it was to make a point after receiving egregious service that made a business lunch very awkward.

In any case it's common sense that you should factor in the tip when eating out. It's part of the cost so if you can't afford to tip you can't afford to eat out it's that simple.

You're correct - it isn't.

Also - the article refers to the amount of money as $140.

Look at the receipt. There's no denomination symbol in front of the price. The article is from the U.K. and maybe they converted the price so readers wouldn't be confused. The middle letter in MOM could easily be a "u" indicating MUM. We don't use that word in the U.S.

Also, isn't there enough news in the U.K. to report on? I find it hard to believe they are so bored to write up a whole article about a woman's receipt in the U.S.

And the word entitlement is used frequently. Again, U.K. Besides, American waiters don't have time to bitch about something like this. They move onto the next table.

Cheers.

This is the source, posted by an American - http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/12azao/not_trying_to_create_another_argument_over_tips/

I don't really care. The Daily Mail is notorious for picking up on non-stories that get a lot of pageviews. It's also one of the most widely read online news sources in the US.
 

porscheguy

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All foreigners pay attention closely. In the US, tipping is so heavily ingrained in our culture that the federal government considers tipping to be a legitimate form of income for people in certain jobs. Therefore, special rules apply when it comes to employees who earn tips. Specifically, they allow restaurants to pay a wage much lower than the standard minimum wage because it is assumed that the tip is the primary form of income for the server. The only reason they are paid any wage at all is because then they can make the server declare a percentage of their sales as income, and the paycheck is used to cover their taxes. It's not uncommon for a server to receive a paycheck for $1 or $2. Many don't get one at all. They just get a check stub that shows their pay and deductions. And whether you get tipped or not, you will pay taxes based on a percentage of your sales. So when you get stiffed, not only do you not make money, you actually lose it. I didn't make the rules, I'm just saying this is how it works.

We can argue about which role is harder but to be honest, you're comparing apples to oranges. The BOH staff have to deal with the physical demands of being in a hot kitchen. The FOH staff have to deal with constant mental abuse from the general public. It's a hell of a mental toll. When you're BOH, you get paid from the moment you clock in and your paycheck arrives every week or two. Your evaluations are done constantly, but nothing is usually said unless you really fuck up. When you're a server, every person you speak with is evaluating you, and their evaluation is based on a number of factors that are outside your control. I was a server for 7 or 8 years in several different places. I maybe got stiffed 20 or 30 times over the course of those 7 or 8 years, so that's not bad. OTOH, shitty tips were an almost daily event. And every shitty tip is like having someone say "fuck you" right to your face, and not jokingly. How many people go to work with the expectation that 3-4 people will them "fuck you" in a hostile manner each and every time they clock in? In all honesty, damn few. Like I said, BOH staff have their own shit to deal with. Brutal heat is the number one issue. And then when they get slammed, they've got to endure the physical heat, while keeping everything straight. It's not easy. But neither are the constant evaluations being done by customers who are pissed off because it rained today and they're on vacation (and they will take that shit out on you.) When you're BOH, your value remains fairly constant. When you're up front at the bar or serving tables, your value is constantly questioned and assessed, even when you know you're damn good at what you do.

But the point isn't about the validity of the practice of tipping or the sense of entitlement of the servers. It's about some bitch who went out and decided to blow $140 on a meal, and then declined to tip, citing that she's a single parent as her excuse. If it's a matter of affordability, maybe she shouldn't be eating out. I would see this shit a lot, especially when I lived in Myrtle Beach where they had a lot of retirees. The mother fuckers would come in and talk about "I live on a fixed income." Yeah bitch, so do I. So do the motherfuckers who work on a salaried basis. So do most motherfuckers who are classified as wage earners.

Eating out at a sit down place is a luxury. But you've got a portion of the general public who thinks it's a right. The next time you think your server doesn't work hard, keep in mind, they're the ones who have to deal with the asshole who thinks this way.

Ome more thing, a lot of servers are fucking liars when it comes to the amount they make. Every place always has a bullshitter who claims to be making $20-$30 or more on every table that comes in. And it's just bullshit. The reason they appear to do so well is because for them, much of their income is not taxed, and every day is payday. But even that's changing thanks to credit/debit/ATM cards. It used to be that you'd hold all of the money you made until you cashed out at the end of the night. Your credit card tips were deducted from the cash you had to turn in at the end of the night. Nowadays, with so many people paying for everything with plastic, and virtually no cash, many restaurants are beginning to hold the credit card tips until payday. That fucking blows because most servers are accustomed to living like low rent drug dealers, and when your tips are held like that, you then get to pay the full amount of income tax on most or all of your income. So the notion of servers making boatloads of cash never really existed, and what did exist is quickly disappearing.
 

Merenguero

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Having worked in Jersey Shore restaurants from age thirteen until my third year of law school, this is a subject which I believe I know something about. First, where and when was it stated that this incident occurred in Great Britain or in a country other than the United States? If it was stated as such, I guess I am blind. If it was not stated, it is mere speculation to state that this did not happen in the United States. Second, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this lady charged the meal on her credit card, paid the tip in cash, and wrote the single mom nonsense as some kind of poor attempt at humor. It is not uncommon for restuarant patrons to pay the check on a credit card and pay the tip in cash.

If this incident occurred in a country where the tip was not included in the check, there may very well have been some serious problems with the service which caused this lady to refuse to tip her server. Why do I say this? Because in my experience, there is a direct relationship between the quality of the service and the satisfaction of the client. A fast and attentive server has high customer satisfaction and an extremely low chance of being undertipped or completely stiffed. It's amazing how more difficult and unhappy customers are when they receive poor service. It is the same thing in my law practice. I may go a year or several years without getting an unhapply client or a client who fails to pay me. Why? Because I pride myself on always being accessible, attentive, and providing clients with the best service I can. Other lawyers I know have angry, dissatisfied, and deadbeat clients every week or even every day. They simply don't provide the same level of attention and service as I do. The same goes in a restaurant. This incident may or may not have happened in England, the tip may or may not have been included, this lady may or may not have paid the tip, and the situation may or may not have been the server's fault.
 
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