Women with insane dating standards

I'm older (in my 50's) and married so I don't deal with these type of psycho women. Is her mentality typical of younger single women? Her list of dating standards is beyond ridiculous. She is just delusional. She wants a man who is not too skinny, is physically fit, BUT can't be stronger than her. LOL! The biggest red flag is "Can't be too close to family and friends".

 
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ICXC

Newbie
Is her mentality typical of younger single women?
Yes and no. She's looking for a provider and also a romance partner; i.e. she wants the whole package or whatever. Is the list typical, yeah for delusional women who probably were relatively attractive ten yeas ago, went through the dating scene, and are now still locked into her old mindset. Basically she's acting like she's still young and has a ton of value and also is demanding the provider 'alpha' guy or what have you.

I mean for her age bracket, and her attractiveness etc, yeah that's pretty average. I would say the 'list' is more of her just rationalizing to herself more than anything else. It's not reality at all because attraction is less of a list and more of a physical response, with the list coming in later which if she's physically attracted to the guy she'll disregard most of that list.

Younger girls don't really have a 'list' per say. Younger girls who are displaying themselves online etc. are way beyond some 'list'. The attractive ones know they can get basically any guy ok, so what does she do? She sells out, as in whores out, sadly. Not all of them are like this, but it's kind of a mixed bag. Some are super shy and though attractive and can get guys have a 'fantasy' life they want projected and made. But do young girls make absurd lists? If she's attractive I would say not really, because the 'fantasy' guy isn't really a priority until they want to settle down.

Their absurd list revolves more around copying every other girl and being the 'perfect' copycat 'supermodel'. In other words young girls don't really care about the guy, he's basically just a prop to her, sad to say. Again, this isn't always true, but you see it enough times and it's unfortunately the case. When she's not looking for a relationship the traits of the man are irrelevant as long as he plays along with her mindless 'game' for whatever it is she's after, which is basically sex or money if she's cracked out of her mind. The same could be said for a lot of younger guys, the difference though is young attractive girls are having hundreds and hundreds (literally, no exaggeration, even average looking cute girls are in incredibly high demand, I'm surprised the bubble hasn't burst yet honestly) of men throwing themselves at anything and everything online and the young guys don't have that happening to them, not at all, not in the slightest. So, you have young generation of men resenting their counterparts, and girls who have the field day of a lifetime and can choose basically a large variety of men if they want, but they don't because women don't choose typically.

They like to think they 'choose' the man, but the fact of the matter is, as online dating shows, women become insanely complacent when given their pick of any man available, they don't do it, especially when all of the men are already providing her emotional feedback she's been wanting. Subconsciously she traps herself. The young group of women who in the past were more shy and had to idealize their male 'fantasy' man from far away, is now allowed to be 'proactive' online and get massive attention and not have to commit to any man at all. She thinks she's being 'proactive' ok, but to her being 'proactive' in online dating is just replying to a message here or there, she doesn't make plans, she doesn't 'try', why? Because she doesn't need to, there's literally no incentive other than sex or money for her. Young girls, unless raised properly, want 'fun' and 'excitement' and she's getting plenty of that, well, some are. Long story short every possible fantasy 'list' she could ever have conceived of or thought about is at her fingertips. It's this ladies list x10,000 ok. If she's actually young and attractive basically any guy will sadly placate to her. It's kind of true, but also a half truth. Their heads are so gased up by the hundreds of messages they all think they can get literally any guy. This isn't always true ok, but for certain girls it definitely is. Some are so shy that they can't handle it I've noticed, even though they get tons of spam they just don't like it, so it's not all of them, but just realize the 'list' is essentially in her mind she thinks she can get any man she wants.

So to answer your question any 'list' she has in her head is provided by her 'harem' of male followers flooding her messages. She gets a 'taste' of literally every type of guy, without the procreation involved. In other words she doesn't have to have kids with any of these guys but she basically is living out fantasy lives with all of them. Biologically going on a real date is 'dangerous' for a woman, in the past it's not normal and a girl knows if she gets pregnant from a random dude he could leave her and she's stuck with the kid, the threat of bein abandoned is hardwired into most girls. She's getting EVERY fantasy list fulfilled for her online. When you're getting flooded hundreds of messages from people as a girl that emotional fix satisfies any 'fantasy' list you think you need. The few women who are serious about dating are the older one's, like the one in this video.

But for her the list is basically just a rationalization she's making to justify why she's single. Younger girls might have a 'list' of some kind that they really want, but they are socially uncalibrated, they don't 'act' on messages and replies, because they don't need too, they get a taste of every man coming through their inbox and feeding them attention. It's pretty sad hate to say. I've known women who have been on dating sites for literally years and years and years. Who knows how many dates, who knows how much this or that, but what is she looking for? The 'perfect' guy right? Yes and no. She might have a fantasy of some perfect guy, but she's already getting all the attention she needs. Women don't act on attention as a motivator generally. Whereas if a man is getting dozens and dozens of messages from cute girls he's going to want to meet almost all of them, but a girl gets the emotional 'fix' and attention which is as satisfactory to her as it is for a man to go on a date. It's a complicated problem, but lets just say the internet exaggerates the problems in both genders dramatically.

It's interesting you say 'younger single women' - girls don't need the 'psychical' bond all of the time ok, they can be very satisfied just getting emotional feedback and positive affirmation and or emotional support of some kind. You say 'single', but the sad truth is while they are technically 'single' in name; i.e. they would tell you they aren't dating', but they'll have 78 messages in their inbox, and 13 guys on their list of potential boyfriends, and 3 guys who are 'friends' of hers and 1 guy who is her current 'potential boyfriend' - ok so it's a disturbing trend and I wish I was exaggerating but I'm not. Well, maybe I am, but were talkin' basically the 'average' cute girl here is getting a ton of messages from guys, is it '78'...no, maybe double or just half that if I'm being realistic. It depends on what site she's using. It depends on a lot of things ok, but yeah the point is she might say she's 'single', but her mental mailbox is definitely taken.
 
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Gimlet

Woodpecker
She is not looking for a man, she is looking for vindication. She looks like mid 30s, and surely has been told her time is running out. She can't now show up with a man who is less-than the men she could have locked down in the past. She can't show up with a man who is less-than the husbands of her friends who married in their 20s. If she can lock down perfection, she will prove everyone wrong and will be vindicated for having been so late in the game. That is why her must-haves are things that can be judged by other people. Height, body, type of dog, bragging about travel are all things outsiders can review and judge; for instance her list does not say, "Strong family ties" because no one sees that so they do not judge that. This lady needs a happy ending like you see in movies, where an aging slut, fat, borderline alcoholic lands a doctor (saw that in an Amy Schumer trailer a few years ago.) A regular man will not do.
 
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gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
You just know that on wedding night, out of that curated dress is going to pop out - a cellulite gut!

WNB - Would not betroth.

This is one of the few women who hasn't totally lost it:

 
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For our ancestors, hypergamy was a feature, not a bug. In a world with no birth control and no government assistance for single moms, it made sense for women to only chase the top men. And since there was no birth control they quickly calibrated their expectations down to a reasonable level. They married a suitable man, and were happy.

Today, women simply are not going to be happy. Sucks for them.
 

ICXC

Newbie
This is one of the few women who hasn't totally lost it:
Yeah I mean I hear what you're sayin' man, but for girls it's either 0 options or 100's of messages in her inbox. Everyman see's every hottie online and thinks just because he can direct message her now he can have her. So it feeds the mans delusional stats of his own self worth while also gasing up the girl's perceived 'status' or 'value'. Guy thinks, "MAN, WHAT IF this hottie replies, awwww damn, I'm such a baller" or whatever, guy thinks his value is real if the IG hoe actually replies to him. Both parties are being tricked man. Yeah this girl is kind of more 'realistic' simply because she's not getting her head gased up. The main difference in this whole equation is that the hot girl has 'actual' 'value', this one does not. The hottie online with 50k sub's can for the most part get 9 out of 10 beta's to wed her, she's not worried, not in the slightest, her only 'real' complaint is she wants the richest man she can get, that's her only complaint. So she has 50k sub's, 5k of those feed her non-stop attention, while 5 of those are real human beings actually trying to make some kind of human connection.

The man wants the hottest girl he can get ok, that's like his entire metric he goes off of, sad but true. A girls entire metric is based on support, whether thats emotional or financial. The guy will wait out marriage to find the hottest girl he can get, whereas the girl will wait out marriage to find the wealthiest guy she can get. When you have 50k subs you're reality worldview is so insanely distorted and gased up you think you should be getting a sports athlete at very least who makes millionaires a year. Ask any guy how much he would value other women if he had even 100 women constantly emailing him and asking him and wanting to go out. The average guy would become a lot like the average girl, suspicious of everyman's 'true' motives, would only look for one that was 'real', etc [insert every common female complaint about men here] ... because the philosophy of supply and demand value applies sadly.

The difference in this equation is the girl can actually settle for any of those guys (for the most part), she can actually be like, "Ok, FINE I'll just go ahead and settle for John Doe because he makes the most money" - but MOST, the vast majority of hotties nowadays do not do this, they whore out. Because sadly, when your perceived value is through the stratosphere and nearly every guy is feeding you constant attention and ALL you want is a rich athlete who you can trust, BUT you don't trust any of these beta bucks homo's AND then the sports athlete isn't messaging you or you aren't getting the super rich dudes, you settle for the easy alternative: cam girl, porno, 'model' and just your all around everyday e-thot. I mean it's pretty vile and twisted. Point is she wants the 'best' (richest, attractive, exciting)* she can get ok, because she's already getting spammed by hundreds of dudes she's going to only actually settle for the richest one, if she's actually attractive. Keep in mind the average girl (an actual '5') is basically a '9 or 10' in most guys mindset nowadays because the standards are so low actual attraction is skewed big time. So the real hotties basically are in constant demand, but how many young girls want to settle down and marry when they're getting hundreds of dudes throwing money at her? Not many. If you're a dude think back when you were 20 - 25. If hundreds of women were throwing you money and constantly asking you out why the hell would you marry? Heh, you would be 'living it up' big time, which is what girls in their prime are doing.

Sadly money influences alot of women, like a vast majority, maybe around 75% at very least are triggered simply by a man's perceived wealth. So you don't really have a chance with that IG e-thot unless you are triggering her 'excitement' / sex urges or are actually pretty damn well off. Sure, alot of dudes can fake it, and there's plenty of girls who realize their value isn't really as high as they want everyone to believe, and so there's still plenty of girls who realize their own dilemma. Their response is the sad part here ok. Because she still is getting fed a ton of attention and still wants and or thinks she deserves better she'll still seek out the money if it's there, which again results in basically online porn of some kind, but the sad part is she could pick one of this dudes even though he's not up to her 'standard'. But can you blame her? I don't know. If I'm a dude with hundreds of girls messaging me constantly how much the love me I'll tell you right now I'm going to be pretty picky, and I'm already really picky in general, how much more so when hundreds of chicks are contently hitting me up? And yeah, I'm only going to talk ot the hottest, the 'average' chick would be a blimp on the radar. Sad, I know.

Realistically I look for her religious values if she has any. Plenty of girls online now are virtue signaling how much they 'love Jesus' when they are just trying to make sure they won't be used, again, I don't really blame them, I blame a ton of men, myself included, sometimes, but not all the time. All I'm sayin' is if I'm getting hundreds of messages from girls you can guarantee I'm going to pick the 'best' (hottest) generally speaking ok. Like my logic dictates she can't be some ethot or cam girl or is a tatted up clown with kids already hanging from her breasts alright, like obviously I have standards. She how much like a girl I sound? "I have standards too!" Blah blah blah, point is simply yeah of course I want the good Catholic girl but man online dating and dating in general is a joke, you can do it, but only divine intervention will determine whether or not it actually will happen.

The internet really distorts both genders flaws dramatically. The hottie can ACTUALLY get a good portion of those 50k subscribers, she could actually just choose if she wanted. That's the sad part here. The man can't, all he can do is put himself 'out there' on her radar and fake it til he makes it and hope she takes the 'bait'. The dude could be a genuinely decent guy with a decent job and even then he'll get passed up because she's getting hundreds of messages and thousands of subscribers, her head is so gassed up that the actual real guy she should choose looks like a chump to her 'perfect' star athlete or whatever/

Anyways, this girl only has a bit of 'red-pill' knowledge because she's had to take black pills; i.e. she's not very attractive sad to say and so she hasn't been hit on by hundreds of men and so she's had to take the bitter truth pill. Not to mention she's on TedX, which is one of YouTubes premier propaganda shows, so don't read too much into what she say's.
 
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bucky

Pelican
You just know that on wedding night, out of that curated dress is going to pop out - a cellulite gut!

WNB - Would not betroth.

This is one of the few women who hasn't totally lost it:

True. My first thought was that if she (the woman in the first clip) could cut her body fat down a good 5% she'd have a way better shot at finding a man who matches up to most of her list. Visible arm fat isn't exactly something that catches many top tier guys' attention.
 

ICXC

Newbie
It's a few years old, but I found this very refreshing to hear from the mouth of another woman.
In regards to the video I can barely listen to it. Nothin wrong with what she's sayin generally speaking, just the presentation I guess. Anyways I had a lot more to say on the topic, but is what it is.
 
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ICXC

Newbie
You just know that on wedding night, out of that curated dress is going to pop out - a cellulite gut!
I mean meh, it isn't all about looks though man, if she takes care of herself and works out a bit she'd be a lot healthier and feel better about herself and probably not make some whole long presentation rationalizing why she's not 'worthless' or whatever. Obviously you can work out and become fit and eat healthy and that is a choice, but certain physical features you can't do anything about. I mean I don't have anything against this chick, and the whole idea of judging women based solely on looks results mostly in deception. Not to mention you might be attracted to someone you didn't expect after talking to them. Obviously I think it varies and to me they have to at bare minimum look like a normal person but I don't wanna make the conversation about this girl from only her looks and looks alone, cuse I think there's always more involved here. The sad reality (if you wanna call it that) is that hot girls get hit on more, or they should, you would think right? Believe it or not a ton of dudes when presented with a cute average looking girl over a bombshell will ask out the average lookin' girl. Why? Because they are intimated or 'beta' or whatever, they don't think they mix with or 'deserve' her basically.

Hotties actually don't get hit on that much outside the internet. Don't get me wrong, every dude she works with feels he has an 'in' and will hit on her in some way shape or form, but generally speaking out and about I never see it. Your actual 9's and 10's, (again it's mostly subjective up to a point) don't really get hit on all that much ok. As far as the girl in this video yeah it's a sad truth girls that aren't hot don't get hit on either as much or ever, but it's like that's not the end all be all. Look's aren't everything ok, they definitely help, obviously, but attraction can be incredibly random also. All I'm sayin' is your perceived 'perfect' 10 won't always match reality and what you actually get aroused by. Again, though looks aren't everything ok, and looks don't = love, not at all, so I mean the propaganda of thinking you can have the hottest girl out there is a pretty massive lie. 50 years ago this TedX girl would probably already be married, maybe, possibly ok, it's tough to say for certain obviously. Point is simply that the internet has skewed our perceptions to such a high degree in such a short time, it's pretty insane how quick it's done it too.
 
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True. My first thought was that if she (the woman in the first clip) could cut her body fat down a good 5% she'd have a way better shot at finding a man who matches up to most of her list. Visible arm fat isn't exactly something that catches many top tier guys' attention.
So I Googled this woman. This is how she describes herself on her Twitter.

Professor. Historian. Environmentalist. Feminist. HBIC.

I just want to vomit when a woman refers to herself as a "bitch" like it's some badge of honor. She now has a child with a man who she hasn't actually married to but they plan to marry according to her Twitter.

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bucky

Pelican
So I Googled this woman. This is how she describes herself on her Twitter.

Professor. Historian. Environmentalist. Feminist. HBIC.

I just want to vomit when a woman refers to herself as a "bitch" like it's some badge of honor. She now has a child with a man who she hasn't actually married to but they plan to marry according to her Twitter.

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Looks like she basically got what she wanted, and got to keep the arm fat.

I'm not a fan of the sign on the right, but to be honest, the sign on the left is fair. No Trump in a diaper or on a toilet, no f-bombs. Pretty restrained and reasonable.
 

ICXC

Newbie
Is TedX actually based?
No. It's a propaganda machine. For the most part 'anyone' can sign up and submit a proposal and request, but it's almost always via friends of friends - at least that's my understanding from what I've looked into. Think of it this way, if Roosh submitted a request to make a TedX would it get accepted? Odds are low. Until someone of his caliber makes a TedX it falls under the propaganda category.

Here you go Uncle Roosh, make it us proud: https://www.ted.com/about/partner-with-ted

Everyone nominate Roosh, haha: https://www.ted.com/participate/nominate




If Roosh can get through 'Guideline #2' he's in. Heh.

"Guideline 2: No political agendas or inflammatory rhetoric Politics, social issues, and policy are key parts of the global conversation. However, TEDx stages are not the place for partisan politics, nor for extremist or inflammatory positions. Speakers must not attack or advocate for parties, party platforms, and political leaders in their talk. They must not advocate for violence or oppression. Advise speakers to focus on discussing concrete problems and solutions. Special care should also be taken with politically divisive subjects (eg. abortion, gun control) so as to avoid polarizing “us vs. them” language. Instead, speakers should focus on consensus-building and nuanced discussion. Consideration should also be given to any content that may carry negative connotations for other parts of our global audience."

I just see a lot of globalists speakers on their list. I mean, it could be an 'ok' platform, but generally speaking I'd stay away from that stuff, but I think Roosh's message(s) is solid. I mean the claim is that they are 'Independently Organized', so make of that what you will. Anyways do you really want to be associated with them I guess is the only real question you gotta ask. I don't even know if they get paid or not.


Here you go Cardinal:

 
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questor70

Ostrich
In the old days Ted did skew academic or silicon valley entrepreneur with delusions of grandeur so you knew what the brand meant. These days it's just a backdrop for anybody to get up and attention-whore. So you can't really pigeon-hole it---other than the common denominator of delusions of grandeur.

As far as the videos, not to disparage the OP but I've seen all these before. It does seem like we've come to a cul-de-sac in the whole red pill thing where a whole new crop of people are coming in and discovering stuff the old guard already absorbed years ago.

There isn't a heck of a lot left to add to the female laundry list discussion. It's valid but you've now got people like Donovan Sharpe who have built their entire youtube channel around coming up with countless ways of restating that single thesis over and over and over again.

As the pic of the male feminist shows, far more women wind up spared catlady status by finding a thirsty simp than men would like to believe. So it's really a stalemate at present.
 

ABeast

Sparrow
No. It's a propaganda machine. For the most part 'anyone' can sign up and submit a proposal and request, but it's almost always via friends of friends - at least that's my understanding from what I've looked into. Think of it this way, if Roosh submitted a request to make a TedX would it get accepted? Odds are low. Until someone of his caliber makes a TedX it falls under the propaganda category.

Here you go Uncle Roosh, make it us proud: https://www.ted.com/about/partner-with-ted

Everyone nominate Roosh, haha: https://www.ted.com/participate/nominate




If Roosh can get through 'Guideline #2' he's in. Heh.

"Guideline 2: No political agendas or inflammatory rhetoric Politics, social issues, and policy are key parts of the global conversation. However, TEDx stages are not the place for partisan politics, nor for extremist or inflammatory positions. Speakers must not attack or advocate for parties, party platforms, and political leaders in their talk. They must not advocate for violence or oppression. Advise speakers to focus on discussing concrete problems and solutions. Special care should also be taken with politically divisive subjects (eg. abortion, gun control) so as to avoid polarizing “us vs. them” language. Instead, speakers should focus on consensus-building and nuanced discussion. Consideration should also be given to any content that may carry negative connotations for other parts of our global audience."

I just see a lot of globalists speakers on their list. I mean, it could be an 'ok' platform, but generally speaking I'd stay away from that stuff, but I think Roosh's message(s) is solid. I mean the claim is that they are 'Independently Organized', so make of that what you will. Anyways do you really want to be associated with them I guess is the only real question you gotta ask. I don't even know if they get paid or not.


Here you go Cardinal:

Rupert Sheldrake is pretty badass. I have to respect a guy who ties to combine a theory of life and physics and telepathy all together while attacking materialistic science to-boot. His Ted talk got "banned" though.
 
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