wtf is the gmanifesto?

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oldnemesis

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Mystik said:
50%! I wouldn't go that far. Its more 4-5 words in a post. And its more about the message than the words.

That's what I meant - I can say that I likely misunderstood roughly half of sentences in every post because the meaning of some words is not clear, and the dictionary doesn't help here.
 

thegmanifesto

Peacock
Gold Member
Roosh said:
The only thing that makes me wonder about your true game skill is that you say custom suit is basically the solution to everything. I think that connects with only three or four guys here.

Roosh, you have read enough of what I write about to know that dressing sharper than everyone else is not the only thing I talk about.

Smoking, Surfing, Boxing, Being Successful, Being Positive, Making Money, working on yourself, learning languages, educating yourself, being well traveled, having a great personality, giving to the less fortunate, being ambitious, having heart, not settling, taking care of your family, telling jokes, speaking in a unique manner, and learning new skills (ie dancing) are what I write about.

The Custom Suit is just a part (although a huge part).

Honestly, ask yourself, have you tried it?

I have said it before and I will say it again, no one, and I mean no one has ever followed what I write about to a "T" and been anything less than amazed.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
Nope I haven't tried it. I go to the type of venues where it would be seen as trying too hard, like I'm trying to overcompensate.

Recently some guy asked for advice and you replied "custom suit" (don't remember where it was, but it really didn't fit the question). I know that's not your whole method, but you push way more than the other stuff to where I wonder if you're being sarcastic.
 

G Trooper

Robin
G,

I have been reading your blog for a couple years now. You deserve mad props and I fucking enjoy reading your posts. As an aspiring G, I have picked up some valuable knowledge from you...suiting down for one has improved my game.

The haters out there are a sign that you've actually done something important and valuable. Keep up the good work G.
 

Rocco81

Kingfisher
G has a different style for sure. At first I didn't really identify with it, but over time, I have seen many things he has written are pretty solid and if you look through his blog he has some good advice on lots of different issues. I will admit, as I am sure G will too, that he does cater to the more flashy game aspects, but that is all good. We all need different perspectives from time to time. Some guys are going to be more the couch surfing low budget kinds of dudes and others might be the young up and comers and most guys fall somewhere in between. Take what you need from each POV and leave the rest that do not apply to you.

About MMA - I have been watching training and generally involved in wrestling, boxing and MMA for a long time now, waaay before it was cool and trendy and I can fully agree that the tough guy culture of MMA is retarded. The media pushing the edgy, skulls, blood and "fighting solves everything" culture are missing the true point of martial arts. Then again I see this as part of a backlask of the feminization of Western culture that has been pushed since the 60's...peace, love, tranquility, betaness now reversed and you have a few uber macho assholes as a result.

* Side note - From my experiences the more tat'd up, skulled out, mohawk rocking the MMA fan is, quite frequently the weaker he is in general. These guys most likely have never been in a fight and If they have they probably suck anyways. It's a show. The toughest guys are quite frequently normal looking guys who are pretty cool..confidence doesn't need to be flashy and douchebaggy. Fisto you can back me up here.
 

thekiller

Robin
I have mixed feelings on MMA.

On the one had, to me it's more skillful than boxing. UFC is certainly more entertaining for me to watch than any other professional sport due to my martial arts background. So Mixx, because he's not familiar with the actions and outcomes, I'm sure finds it boring watching two dudes hugging and flailing around.

On the other, the "edginess" that Rocco talks about is tiring. Also tiring is UFC fans saying UFC PROVES wrestling/jujitsu is the best COMBATIVE combo. I respect both arts but the UFC is set up in such a way as to FAVOR grapplers. Shortly after its inception it switched to softer rings, making it harder for strikers to generate power, and gentler for grapplers to do their takedowns. Strikers also can't use elbows during shoot-ins and other techniques a more striking oriented fighter would use to repel a grappler. Such is the nature of the SPORT.

As for the G manifesto, gansta game isn't my style. I abhor the lifestyle. He does however give some good advice, like suiting up and other things. Other advice, like smoking, yes I understand it's a social help but the costs seem high to me. G isn't a tool on the threads normally either. If your into that rap lifestyle, you should probably read G.
 

theIVth

 
Banned
The G Manifesto seems to be pretty cool to me.

Im 27, african american, grew up in the "hood" per se, won best dressed in high school and have always gotten compliments on my fashion and have always gotten the "what are those....where you get that from". I was always a trend-setter and was always part of the "in-crowd". I can relate to G Manifestos persona.

Some people may take a lot of what he says and try to make it seem fantastical because to be honest, most guys are not playa. The majority of the population are lame and square. There are very few guys that are able to turn a chicks head based purely off swag.

I think a lot of the PUA world is made up of guys that used to be geeks that found their manhood somewhere along the way. I also think that many of them will always be geeks at heart and reading or being around someone like the likes of a G Manifesto reminds them of this.
 

Moma

Peacock
Gold Member
The G manifesto is cool to me. However, I think that a lot of the PUA advice would work gangbusters in the U.S but in more conservative countries like Canada and the U.K, it's not so much as a sure thing.

What kind of numbers do you think I would work against to get the type of results that you mans speak of?

G, I believe you box, right? I want to pick it up but I am not looking forward to getting punched in the face. Can you tell me if you have ever had your nose broken and if so, how many times?
 

Giovonny

Crow
Gold Member
wtf is the thegmanifesto?

heres my opinion...

TheGManifesto is a blog that successfully captures the persona and attitude of being a "G". Its a peak inside the mind of a modern day "man of leisure".

A "G" can be alot of different things, a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, etc, etc. Basically, a "G" is a man that women want to be with, and other men want to be like. Everybody wants to call themselves a "G" because alot of girls think its sexy and cool to be a "G". Hasn't it always been cool to go against mainstream society and carve your own path with the soul of a rebel?

TheGManifesto represents the core of all of these types of "Gs". Its a non-conformist attitude, refusing to play along with the bullshit of mainstream society, living life on your own terms, having the balls to live the life that you really want. Saying fuck you to "The Man". Doing it your way without apologizing or making excuses.

Before the western man started getting feminised, I think this is how men wanted to be. America was built on this type of "rugged individualism" (teddy roosevelt)

I think alot of guys on this Forum share this type of mentality.

Deep down most men and women respect the courage, individuality, daring, and cunning of successful "Gs". We all want to live a life of total freedom and say fuck the rat race. Most of us are slaves to our employer with very little free time to ourselves and it often seems like we don't even have much control over our own lives. Working 40-60 hours a week doing mind numbing bullshit work only to give 1/3 or more of our paychecks to the government.

A "G" refuses to live like this.

Look at what he writes about. Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave. Isn't that what we all want?

To fully understand his blog you have to have some understanding of this type of mentality, it helps if you have been exposed to, grew up around or were raised by "Gs".

You also need to understand the different cultures that we have here in the US. East Coast, Northern California, Southern California, The South, and The Midwest. And not just the mainstream culture but also the street culture, music, and attitude of all these places.

If you don't understand TheGManifesto its probably because:

1. You are not from the USA and you don't understand all the slang and geographical metaphors and wordplay.

2. You have never been exposed to any counter-culture philosophy and the attitude that he writes with is so far out of your paradigm/worldview that you simply can not understand it, or you refuse to believe that it is real.

Have you guys seen the new Gatorade commercials?

Where they show highlights of world class athletes performing under pressure. They talk about the drive, dedication, poise, confidence,and grace of these great athletes.....and at the end of the commercial they say...

"Thats G"

Great athletes and great playboys have many things in common.

Look at what Roosh has done in his life, Left the corporate rat race and blazed his own trail doing something that he enjoys. Something that brings freedom, independent wealth, and women.

I think thats why TheGManifesto respects Roosh so much.

Because Roosh is a G.

Don't take the G blog as a work of Non-Fiction. TheGMan has always said that he takes some artistic freedoms in his writings. Keep your sense of humor while reading.

I'm not gonna name names but i bet there are some guys on this forum that make up alot more bullshit then what you see on TheGManifesto.
 

Rocco81

Kingfisher
Killer, have you ever been in a cage? They are not that soft dude more or less like a boxing ring maybe with slight more spring to it. Also even in amatuer, atleast in my state, you can elbow in the way in and out, on the floor, standing up etc. You have to watch knees to a downed opponants head etc but you can elbow.

Moma - If you are just boxing to learn to use your fists and get into shape, then just suit up and go learn. Its a sick workout at the least. If you are wanting to be a fighter, you will get broken bones and par for the course is a broken nose, I have a small nose so you can't tell much but mine's been mashed up quite a few times usually becoming more flat with time. If you have a long boney nose (middle easter guys, some Italian and some Latin guys) then your nose can en up real crooked and crazy looking.

Remember if it is pure boxing, you will always use headgear in everything aside from a pro bout. Now MMA is different. PM me if you want and I can give you some good tips on pure boxing or other fight sports, my man Fisto is also a good source of knowledge on this.
 

Pacman

Sparrow
I was not sure if G was humourous in his posts...I was just wondering.... but now I think the guy is exagerating some descriptions to the point it s getting very caricatural(french word btw) just to make himself laugh...

When it comes to wearing suits (not even customs), I have to admit that it gives a significative extra edge in some specific contexts like bars in Riga for example
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
I love The G Manifesto and have read it for years.

Maybe six years ago I was in Hong Kong and broke down and bought some suits. I was looking on the internet for info and found it. I was in the military at the time, and thought it was funny that Myspace was censored but The G Manifesto wasn't.

I always send out this one when people ask me about restaurants in Hawaii: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/08/guest-g-manifesto-restaurant-review.html#comments.

Theres only one qualm I've ever had. My 16 year old nephew was trying to get a job, and I was telling him that there were tons of ways to make money without having a "job" in the traditional sense. I showed him a bunch of stuff on the internet including this: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2008/02/why-you-shouldnt-drive-suv.html#content. So the little punk has a giant pile of catalytics buried all over the place, but has absolutely NO idea why the one on my jet ski pulling truck was gone. Then, after a little choke, he's able to produce an exact match he so happened to pull off a similar vehicle.

There's lots of great stuff on there. I don't know what the average blog lifespan is, but I hope his keeps going for a long time.

Aloha!
 

thegmanifesto

Peacock
Gold Member
Kona,

Ha. Hilarious story. I apologize for being a bad influence on your nephew.

"I don't know what the average blog lifespan is, but I hope his keeps going for a long time."

No worries my brother.

I have enough material already to write for another 5 years minimum right now.

Hell, in the last two months I have had the sickest experiences, that the best is yet to come.

I just need to get time to write it all down!

Giovanny,

Epic post. Giovanny knows the Score. California player to the bone.

Moma,

"G, I believe you box, right? I want to pick it up but I am not looking forward to getting punched in the face. Can you tell me if you have ever had your nose broken and if so, how many times?"

Nose broken once (I have a pretty rubbery nose and now always wear Cleto Reyes headgear that protects my beautiful mug.)

But I have had my bell rung multiple times and dropped from vicious body shots (the worst).

I have had worse experiences in streets fights and surfing.

Cracked over the head with a baseball bat in a high school group mele.

Almost drown multiple times surfing. And once I was "cheese grated" over the rocks on this trippy surf spot with a weird entry point.
 

kimleebj

 
Banned
Giovonny said:
TheGManifesto ... captures the persona and attitude of being a ... modern day "man of leisure" ... a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, ... rebel.

Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes, wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave. Isn't that what we all want?

Roosh left the corporate rat race and blazed his own trail doing something that he enjoys. Something that brings freedom, independent wealth, and women.

Good post. Your excellent summary reveals critical contradictions. We all want money, freedom, health, and good relationships. If you are lucky and talented then you can have them all. But most of us have limitations. That's where character and values define the man and determine the outcome.

A rebel prioritizes freedom. He defies social convention and sacrifices creature comforts. Roosh is willing to live with a parent and ride a bicycle to indulge his travel. That's why I'm disturbed when you write:

Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes, wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave.

People become corporate slaves because they want your list of material things.

"man of leisure" ... a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, ... rebel.

This list is unrealistically broad. Instead of being true to your values, it tries to be all things to all people. That is the problem with the Gmanifesto. It is a fantasy about having it all, not a genuine model for self-improvement.
 

thegmanifesto

Peacock
Gold Member
kimleebj,

"man of leisure" ... a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, ... rebel.

This list is unrealistically broad. Instead of being true to your values, it tries to be all things to all people. That is the problem with the Gmanifesto. It is a fantasy about having it all, not a genuine model for self-improvement."

Fantasy for who?

That is the basic description of every male in my family. Although my Grandfather didn't get to enjoy much "leisure". But his hard work and him passing his knowledge made it possible for me.

And I would hardly call this "having it all".

But I will take it as a compliment. Thank you.

"If you are lucky and talented then you can have them all."

You forgot hard work. And heart. And an unbreakable will. As a matter of fact, I will take those three over luck and talent (two things I am in short supply of).

"But most of us have limitations."

You write for the people with limitations then.

I will live and write for the people that want to overcome them.
 

Irminsul

Pigeon
Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes, wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave.

Over half of this comes down to having money. If you have a steady supply of cash, then traveling, eating good food, wearing nice clothes, not being a corporate slave, etc. is trivial.

It's kinda hard to take G manifesto seriously when:

1) He does not say how he gets money, even in general terms (i.e. job vs. owning a business). Strange that he would omit the most important component of the "lifestyle" he promotes.
2) He does not put up any pics of himself to prove he has done any of the stuff he says he has done.
3) He's got a blog full of affiliate links, which not only clashes with the overall image he's trying to project (since ads are not exactly tasteful), but also with the idea that he's got loads of dough. I mean, how many rich international playboys are pumping bullshit products on their blogs for peanuts?

Frankly, it's difficult to not be skeptical.
 

kerouac

Ostrich
I think if the G-Manifesto became a bit more like Roissy's blog, in the sense that it had better/more-coherent writing, and built on its following, which is totally possible, then I'd imagine it could be very lucrative for G. So far, though, it seems more like a half-assed approach to something that could be really good (no offense). There are some definite gems on the blog, but I think G can bump it up a few notches and make it truly Gangsta.
 

skulled

Sparrow
To be honest, I don't quite understand this request for evidence or proof that I have come across on a number of threads. I mean asking for more information to understand something is fine, but asking people to post pictures or stuff like that is just plain pointless. If one were to resort to that, every thread would turn in to a debate as to whether the content is true and can be verified or not. It's much like asking some one who posts a report to post pictures to validate that they got a notch or scored a flag by asking for pictures and other personal information.

I mean, I don't understand what is so different in accepting it when someone posts that they successfully got laid with a pro/semi-pro without shelling out a buck, but making a big deal about someone who talks about going suited down and swooping "fly girls". Both could equally be true or false. And no, I am not defending G just to make it very clear.

I have read his (did someone ask if he was actually male and ask him to prove it, who knows maybe he is actually a she ... LOL :D) stuff, and some of it is out there. So yes somethings I am skeptical about as well, and I don't accept everything that is written. I take what I want, and leave the rest out. If I am particularly interested in something that was written, but I am skeptical about it just makes more sense for me directly ask for further information and then decide to either take it or not.

Another thing a lot of people seem to forget is literary freedom. Yes, not everything you read on the internet or a forum/blog is to be taken as the absolute truth. There will always be exaggeration, so read stuff and take in the content with a grain of salt. After all no one is really forcing you to read something or take it in word to word.

The whole purpose is to share information, and gain as much as possible from it. Not everything works for everyone. Maybe wearing suits is not your thing, so don't take it. I like suits and I wear them all the time and have been doing so for a long time. So maybe I can relate to it in some manner, not the way he writes in terms of names, custom suits etc. But the bottom line is, you've got to do what is comfortable for you and more importantly what works for you. If something seems interesting, try it and see if it works rather than asking why it will work. There is no universal solution.

I understand it is a good thing to be skeptical and have threads like this, but too many of these doesn't help any one. And a much better way to tackle skepticism is to ask for further information and then forming an opinion or judgement, than taking the bashing route and asking for proof.

Just my two cents! :)
 

thegmanifesto

Peacock
Gold Member
Irminsul,

I have addressed your points countless times.

But lets make this nice and sparkling clear:

"1) He does not say how he gets money, even in general terms (i.e. job vs. owning a business). Strange that he would omit the most important component of the "lifestyle" he promotes."

I think it is pretty damn obvious that I don't work a "job". If you read what I write, it is also pretty damn obvious what I do for a living. I talk about it and allude to it all the time.

"2) He does not put up any pics of himself to prove he has done any of the stuff he says he has done."

I am a man. I am not a little girl on facebook. I don't put up "pics". I know this is hard for you kids these days to grasp. But I come from a world where privacy is valued and being low-profile is revered.

I don't know a single person who doesn't feel the same way as me on this. I find it truly amazing that people have your viewpoint.

"3) He's got a blog full of affiliate links, which not only clashes with the overall image he's trying to project (since ads are not exactly tasteful), but also with the idea that he's got loads of dough. I mean, how many rich international playboys are pumping bullshit products on their blogs for peanuts?"

Most of that is to help people. Like Roosh as an example.

I find it strange that you have a problem with making money.

I have no idea where you are from or how you grew up, but it is safe to say that it was completely different than me. Maybe that's why you are having a tough time getting it.

We clear?

kerouac,

What I write about doesn't appeal to the masses. Their lives are too weak. Hell, even some people on here are amazed that someone can travel, make money, swoop girls, smoke cigarettes and wear Custom Suits, which blows my mind since that is basically what everyone on here does or aspires to do.

"had better/more-coherent writing, and built on its following, which is totally possible, then I'd imagine it could be very lucrative for G."

I have never claimed to be a writer. Read my earlier stuff, the writing quality is horrible. That all being said, I have gotten a call from an Oscar nominated producer who wants me to write a screenplay, so it can't be all bad.

But again, I don't write this to make money. It is an artistic release and fun to me.

Let's be real though, the stuff I churn out is light years ahead of what other cats are writing about. It has to be, I was doing the sh*t they are writing about at age 18.

skulled,

I think you get it.

I never really understand what I write about that people have such a hard time grasping/believing. And you will notice, they never mention anything specific.

I have written for 5 years, so there is plenty to pick apart. The problem is the stuff I write is bullet proof because its real.
 
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